Should I trim fan leaves off for more light ?

ol hippy

Well-Known Member
Am in my 5th wk of veg and my plants are getting a bit crowded , would it weaken the plants to thin out some of the lower fan leaves ? Thanks I'm going to start flowering on Sat after my res change.
 

Mr. Nugs

Member
I don't think you do. But of course there's lots of controversy on that topic. Roseman says to leave 'em. Those big fan leaves are responsible for photosynthesis. If you have to just tie them down or use a paperclip.
 

FryingPanFlyer

Active Member
Hey ol hippy, everything I hear now is to leave the fan leaves, they are a big energy source for plant nutrition. This does make sense to me, to lose big, healthy solar receptors seems counter-productive to me. Plus when you think of the smaller buds you are trying to get the light to, well, they never do seem to add up to much of anything. Best to keep the plant healthy and with as many leaves as possible.

I'm reading up on the use of nitrogen in nutes during flower. The conventional wisdom is not to, but from what I've been reading this is a fallacy, which also makes sense. The healthier the plant is the better it's going to perform.

I can agree with removing damaged leaves, but if they are healthy, let 'em be.

:peace:
 

thedude121212

New Member
yeah i have to agree with the consensus ol' hippy if they are not damaged just try to tuck em around and u know u can break em without taking them off to redirect them be careful though and wet them first so the stem is nice and pliable and less likely to completely break off. back when i was in my closet i did a massive fan leave chop just because shit was gettin outta hand and i needed to slow plant growth for a while. i wouldn't stress ur plant that much this close to flowering this is a very crucial time and u want to keep stressors to a minimum as at this point.
 

ol hippy

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Thanks for the replys guys !I was reading this a.m. on the same thing .I was just concerned with all those nice bud sites under the canopy with no light. I'd like to tie them out but my grow closet is way small ! Next grow a may have to build a little out building!FlyinPan, I've also heard that you can just use 1/4 grow nutes and 3/4 bloom nutes fot the first 2-3 wks of flower for the added N.
 

ol hippy

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Am I that loaded or are these forums messed up right now? Can't see any recent posts listed beyond early this a.m. Does it have to do with the new look??
 

Lt Shiny Sides

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Ol hippy, they were doing something with the site yesterday, I personally liked the new look, but I think that had some kinks to work out. Anyway, everyone here is correct, only remove leaves that are 50% or more damaged (burned, yellow, etc.). The others, you can tuck out of the way.
 

FryingPanFlyer

Active Member
Thanks for the replys guys !I was reading this a.m. on the same thing .I was just concerned with all those nice bud sites under the canopy with no light. I'd like to tie them out but my grow closet is way small ! Next grow a may have to build a little out building!FlyinPan, I've also heard that you can just use 1/4 grow nutes and 3/4 bloom nutes fot the first 2-3 wks of flower for the added N.
I've been reading you should have some level of nitrogen throughout the bloom cycle. Exactly how much I'm not sure, but whatever it takes to keep the plant healthy is what I intend to provide. One of the problems many people have is they pay little attention to the nutrient analysis on the side of the nute bottle.

When people say use 1/4 grow and 3/4 bloom, well, what proportion is that exactly of what nutrients. I'm trying to find as much as I can about specific nutes.

I bought some Advanced nutes and paid dearly for them, and now I'm finding that the Miracle Grow that was already on my shelf is probably just as good containing all the same nutrients and trace elements I find in the Advanced.

I'm ripping off a lot of my ideas from Uncle Ben, but he's provided some links for further study from commercial fertilizer companies. I've been doing a lot of reading and I have plenty more to do. I need to know exactly what works and why it does. I'm not going to pay through the nose for something I can buy at my neighborhood hardware store for a whole lot less. I'm trying to de-mystify this nute thing for myself.

:peace:
 

ol hippy

Well-Known Member
I've been reading you should have some level of nitrogen throughout the bloom cycle. Exactly how much I'm not sure, but whatever it takes to keep the plant healthy is what I intend to provide. One of the problems many people have is they pay little attention to the nutrient analysis on the side of the nute bottle.

When people say use 1/4 grow and 3/4 bloom, well, what proportion is that exactly of what nutrients. I'm trying to find as much as I can about specific nutes.

I bought some Advanced nutes and paid dearly for them, and now I'm finding that the Miracle Grow that was already on my shelf is probably just as good containing all the same nutrients and trace elements I find in the Advanced.

I'm ripping off a lot of my ideas from Uncle Ben, but he's provided some links for further study from commercial fertilizer companies. I've been doing a lot of reading and I have plenty more to do. I need to know exactly what works and why it does. I'm not going to pay through the nose for something I can buy at my neighborhood hardware store for a whole lot less. I'm trying to de-mystify this nute thing for myself.

:peace:
Right on it is a mystery !I was using the stealth hydro nutes for veg till I ran out and switched to Botanicare pro they're about half of what some of the others are going for and they work great ,both the grow and bloom already have the micros mixed in already. The stealth nutes say not to mix the bloom and veg. On the Botanicare they tell you when switching to bloom to use half and half for the transitional period ! makes sense to me .I too like uncle Bens simple logic keep the leaves healthy and the plant will benefit !! Last night was my first night of flowering 4 plants look great I'm checking constantly to see if they're all gonna be little ladies !!crossing my fingers !! Tired of spending 100 bucks a wk to stay on meds !! c'mon flowers !!Good luck with your grow FryingPan..
 

FuZZyBUDz

Well-Known Member
the fan leafes r the the eingines of the veg state! i clipp mine late-mid flower for more light to the building buds heres a pik....
4 weeks flower..
 

FryingPanFlyer

Active Member
Right on it is a mystery !I was using the stealth hydro nutes for veg till I ran out and switched to Botanicare pro they're about half of what some of the others are going for and they work great ,both the grow and bloom already have the micros mixed in already. The stealth nutes say not to mix the bloom and veg. On the Botanicare they tell you when switching to bloom to use half and half for the transitional period ! makes sense to me .I too like uncle Bens simple logic keep the leaves healthy and the plant will benefit !! Last night was my first night of flowering 4 plants look great I'm checking constantly to see if they're all gonna be little ladies !!crossing my fingers !! Tired of spending 100 bucks a wk to stay on meds !! c'mon flowers !!Good luck with your grow FryingPan..
Alright, we're on the same schedule! I just started 12/12 Saturday and everything is looking good. Good luck on your grow too! I'm growing clones so I know I'm going 6 for 6, can't afford males right now. I also took some cuttings from these plants to get a new crop going.

Good luck man!
 

ol hippy

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Alright, we're on the same schedule! I just started 12/12 Saturday and everything is looking good. Good luck on your grow too! I'm growing clones so I know I'm going 6 for 6, can't afford males right now. I also took some cuttings from these plants to get a new crop going.

Good luck man!
I switched sat as well. Still waiting for them to show sex ,hope to be able to get a few clones myself after I see whos what! These plants are trying to grow right out into the hall !!
 
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