shrooms on an empty stomach?

Silicity

Silicity

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im not familiar with mushrooms but i can say it had been atleast a year for both of us, i posted my statement cause the others thought 3.5 was rolling hard which its not, i wasnt trying to seemnhardcore as ive met people who eat ozs like drinking water out in humboldt, hardcore peeps out there. try frying off dmt and acid at the same time, dosage doesnt matter, your gonna be gone haha.

they were orange btw, not sure if this helps, i had some blue ones that 2grams made me fry harder than anything else ive tried.
 
lowblower

lowblower

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Skuxx said:
I haven't really had stomach issues in a while either. ever since I started chewing them up better. I think they messed my stomach up more when I used to swallow giant chunks to just get them down quick. But chewing them up good seems to hit harder, and less nausea. I have no science behind this of course. a lot of people make shroom tea and say that helps the nausea. every time i've drank tea, I made it waayy too strong, and end up on the floor pissing my pants. so be careful with tea.

and as far as an empty stomach. i actually like to eat throughout the day, and i just won't eat for about 2 hours before the dose. I just eat more shrooms.
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thanks for the tip "its my party and ill pee if i want tooooo" :D
 
ddimebag

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I usually eat a bit soon before taking shrooms...I get LESS stomach issues that way...and feel better in general. The shrooms may take a little longer to kick in, but the experience is more pleasant overall.
 
sonar

sonar

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Mushrooms and psychedelics in general are serious business and deserve respect. It isn't some kind of pissing contest. If someone gets to where they want to be off of 2g or something then good for them. Although, I personally feel that anything less than 2g isn't reallty worth it, even for a 1st timer.

I think a lot of the stomach problems and nausea people have psychosomatic. When I was a teenager I believed the propaganda that "they are toxic and the trip is a side effect of the poison." I think just the thought of that contributed to me feeling nauseous. They were just off the street and not even close to being in the condition and handled as well as my own, so maybe that was part of it too. At any rate, full stomach or empty stomach I don't feel sick from them anymore at any dose. Just some gas towards the end. :?

But yeah, I make tea now and usually don't ingest the solids. Like to drink it about an hour or two after something light. I like to have some fruit around too for a trip. I really like eating on toward the back end of a trip and fruit just seems to be a best.

Oh and BTW, you guys wanna talk about being gone, try taking 2 big rips of DMT at the peak of a eating an 8th of mushrooms. :)
 
canndo

canndo

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Silicity said:
im not familiar with mushrooms but i can say it had been atleast a year for both of us, i posted my statement cause the others thought 3.5 was rolling hard which its not, i wasnt trying to seemnhardcore as ive met people who eat ozs like drinking water out in humboldt, hardcore peeps out there. try frying off dmt and acid at the same time, dosage doesnt matter, your gonna be gone haha.

they were orange btw, not sure if this helps, i had some blue ones that 2grams made me fry harder than anything else ive tried.
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Orange? what was orange?
 
canndo

canndo

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sonar said:
Mushrooms and psychedelics in general are serious business and deserve respect. It isn't some kind of pissing contest. If someone gets to where they want to be off of 2g or something then good for them. Although, I personally feel that anything less than 2g isn't reallty worth it, even for a 1st timer.

I think a lot of the stomach problems and nausea people have psychosomatic. When I was a teenager I believed the propaganda that "they are toxic and the trip is a side effect of the poison." I think just the thought of that contributed to me feeling nauseous. They were just off the street and not even close to being in the condition and handled as well as my own, so maybe that was part of it too. At any rate, full stomach or empty stomach I don't feel sick from them anymore at any dose. Just some gas towards the end. :?

But yeah, I make tea now and usually don't ingest the solids. Like to drink it about an hour or two after something light. I like to have some fruit around too for a trip. I really like eating on toward the back end of a trip and fruit just seems to be a best.

Oh and BTW, you guys wanna talk about being gone, try taking 2 big rips of DMT at the peak of a eating an 8th of mushrooms. :)
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The cell walls of mushrooms have an appreciable content of chitin - I don't know how soluable chitin is but it is hard enough to maybe cause problems with people's stomachs - especialy eaten "to excess". Those who have eaten pure psylocibin have reported stomach problems - of course pure mescaline causes such a thing - then again we are talking about close to half a gram of mescaline vs 15 or 20 mg of psylocibin.

Something else to be aware of is that there are bacteria that produce toxins that will cause stomach problems - and those bacteria will grow on improperly dried mushrooms, or mushrooms that have gotten wet and then perhaps dried again. I encountered some improperly stored oyster mushrooms that made everyone who ate them nauseous - of course the mushroom it self was blamed but it was obvious to anyone who knows oysters that these had been poorly kept - they were slimy on the caps and had a faint odor of sour milk. Had these been subsequently dried, the toxin would undoubtably continue to cause a problem.
 
Silicity

Silicity

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testtime said:
But I'll throw some random shit out there and hope I don't look too stupid.

Sorry, didn't work.
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jesus you must be a mess in real life to take such a thing so seriously, shocking theres people like you, had i claimed to be knowledgable about them? did i state information which was incorrect? and what information did i throw out there and hope to not look stupid? either way your kind always gives me a good laugh, you must not have enough friends.
 
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testtime

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Silicity said:
jesus you must be a mess in real life to take such a thing so seriously, shocking theres people like you, had i claimed to be knowledgable about them? did i state information which was incorrect? and what information did i throw out there and hope to not look stupid? either way your kind always gives me a good laugh, you must not have enough friends.
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Glad you enjoyed it.
Nope, no friends at all.
Actually, I'm an electronic troll.
 
GrowinTheDank

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Silicity said:
jesus you must be a mess in real life to take such a thing so seriously, shocking theres people like you, had i claimed to be knowledgable about them? did i state information which was incorrect? and what information did i throw out there and hope to not look stupid? either way your kind always gives me a good laugh, you must not have enough friends.
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Typical lOl.

Just because you've been humiliated, doesn't mean testtime has no friends lmao. Also, you're the only one who took it anywhere near a serious level mayne
 
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testtime

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canndo said:
I am quite certain testime has friends - quite.
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Oh yes, I bathe in their adulation.

Actually, as smart as I may present or egotistically feel, my life is spent surround by far smarter, nicer people. Always a learning experience.

Before my dad died (he worked forever, many hours, typical raised in the 50s quiet serious executive type), he said his goal was to retire and go back to college, just to enjoy the experience of the education in a social situation. He didn't make it. But he taught me to bail on the corporate rat race before it was too late, fall in love, enjoy my family, and be there for them. It wasn't too late for the lesson, even though I had blown 40+ years on a fucked up path. Life is good.

To whiner: Try to be a bit clearer in your posts. If you ever start a post in a specific forum on a specific subject and disavow any knowledge, and then follow up with a psyc brain dump of rambling, you are setting yourself up to be tagged as some who's indulged a bit much, a bit recently, and maybe shouldn't be take so seriously. It's a good setup. I apologize if you took it harshly. You'll see a bit of banter here. Thicken a bit and enjoy it.

See, relax, ohhhhmmmm. Stress downnnnnnnn.

1 aspect of shrooms is it physically leaves you with an open mind for about a year after the dose. Google it up if you can, if not, I'll go hunt it down. Killer concept. It makes you happier and more open for about a year, and then people slip back into a narrower point of view. They need a maintenance dose. Cool stuff.

To anyone who repeat: "You need a minimum dose to have an experience of ANY value."

You are right. BUT. You never follow that up with "of standard cubes".

So everyone says: Hey, 2+ grams is the starting point, and 3-4 is PRETTY DAMN GOOD. Most people simply east an 1/8.

And then the nubie eat 3.5 grams of Penis Envy, goes and feeds the bears, gets mauled, arrested, and fucked in the ass in prison for a few years when the find the leftover bag in his pocket. Just because they weren't regular cubes. Off course, no one believes it until it's too late.

Maybe that's why they call it Penis Envy.
 
canndo

canndo

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testtime said:
Oh yes, I bathe in their adulation.

Actually, as smart as I may present or egotistically feel, my life is spent surround by far smarter, nicer people. Always a learning experience.

Before my dad died (he worked forever, many hours, typical raised in the 50s quiet serious executive type), he said his goal was to retire and go back to college, just to enjoy the experience of the education in a social situation. He didn't make it. But he taught me to bail on the corporate rat race before it was too late, fall in love, enjoy my family, and be there for them. It wasn't too late for the lesson, even though I had blown 40+ years on a fucked up path. Life is good.

To whiner: Try to be a bit clearer in your posts. If you ever start a post in a specific forum on a specific subject and disavow any knowledge, and then follow up with a psyc brain dump of rambling, you are setting yourself up to be tagged as some who's indulged a bit much, a bit recently, and maybe shouldn't be take so seriously. It's a good setup. I apologize if you took it harshly. You'll see a bit of banter here. Thicken a bit and enjoy it.

See, relax, ohhhhmmmm. Stress downnnnnnnn.

1 aspect of shrooms is it physically leaves you with an open mind for about a year after the dose. Google it up if you can, if not, I'll go hunt it down. Killer concept. It makes you happier and more open for about a year, and then people slip back into a narrower point of view. They need a maintenance dose. Cool stuff.

To anyone who repeat: "You need a minimum dose to have an experience of ANY value."

You are right. BUT. You never follow that up with "of standard cubes".

So everyone says: Hey, 2+ grams is the starting point, and 3-4 is PRETTY DAMN GOOD. Most people simply east an 1/8.

And then the nubie eat 3.5 grams of Penis Envy, goes and feeds the bears, gets mauled, arrested, and fucked in the ass in prison for a few years when the find the leftover bag in his pocket. Just because they weren't regular cubes. Off course, no one believes it until it's too late.

Maybe that's why they call it Penis Envy.
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that was kind of a hint that I considered myself your friend testime.


I recall you were a bit harsh with me, believing, I think that I didn't have the chops to back my statements up - but we got over it.


I have had dreams of going back to college for many years - litteraly, I have had hundreds of dreams that I was back in college and that I had neglected a class for most of the semester or couldn't remember where the class was or that I had registered but found myself in another country.

I think there is a message in there for me but I don't know what it is.
 
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testtime

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canndo said:
that was kind of a hint that I considered myself your friend testime.
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I think there is a message in there for me but I don't know what it is.
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Cool, thanks, no message. Just a story of where I am in life, ie: all good, and it took my dad dying without accomplishing it to push me to do it. Hopefully other can get there without the traumatic events. Tripping can be a traumatic event, but short lived if you do it right.
 
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testtime

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canndo said:
Orange? what was orange?
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And here, I'll take this on it's face. As other pointed out, it isn't a contest.

But I assume the Orange was some type of aminita

And yes, to above poster, it is a hell of a ride mixing various dmt or dmt like substances such as psilocybin mushrooms. They pretty much hit the same receptors, but mushrooms has a bit broader spectrum of activity. The DMT hit much harder, quicker though.

Either way, if you care, read my posts on it, I got stomped on using a torch for DMT. I learned. And yeah, I dug in for a while.

But I don't believe I ever attacked anyone personally. "You have no friends". Such a silly statement. I assume comes from a fear of having no friends, which in turn would be the worst thing you could attempt to say to someone else.

Ok, I'll stop the pscho-babble. That is the only personal response you'll get at of me.

Take care
 
Alembic

Alembic

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If I wasn't in it for the anonimity, I would post a picture a buddy of mine got of me on my first run. But... anonimity and all.
 
canndo

canndo

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If the rule is - no pictues means it didn't happen, does that also mean that if there are no pictures of us we don't exist? I saw someone say they wish another poster was a "friend in real life" - what, exactly, is this? Come on now - some of us heavier users have had trouble with determining what is real for a long long time.
 
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