Since the USA annexed Hawaii, is that justification for China annexing Taiwan ?

Hawaii, a string of islands far from the continental USA was annexed in 1898 to facilitate the USA waging war against Spanish holdings and for a strategic base. Hawaii was independently governed prior to the USA using weapons to take it over.

Taiwan is an island approx. 80 - 100 miles from mainland China. It has an independent government now, but if China took it over, that government would cease.

Should the USA set an example for China and "free" Hawaii so China will leave Taiwan alone or is there some reason the two situations are different ?

“Free Hawaii “
Any state is free to secede
Russia
Florida
Texas
If you are listening

Herb & Suds said:

“Free Hawaii “
Any state is free to secede
Russia
Florida
Texas
If you are listening

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So that's a "no" on the USA setting a good example for China to be kind to Taiwan then?

Herb & Suds said:

“Free Hawaii “
Any state is free to secede
Russia
Florida
Texas
If you are listening

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I feel the rest of the states should get to vote on Texas & Florida.
There were only 48 stars on the flag when I was a kid, that was good enough for me....

Rob Roy said:

So that's a "no" on the USA setting a good example for China to be kind to Taiwan then?

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Herb & Suds said:

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是的,先生 !

doublejj said:

I feel the rest of the states should get to vote on Texas & Florida.
There were only 48 stars on the flag when I was a kid, that was good enough for me....View attachment 5244344

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Do you support sending young men to die if China follows the USA lead and annexes an island for strategic reasons ?

Would you also support any Hawaiian effort to drive out the USA invaders?

There is absolutely no similarity between Hawaii and Taiwan.

xtsho said:

There is absolutely no similarity between Hawaii and Taiwan.

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They are both islands though right?

Okay, why do you think there are no similarities ?

Rob Roy said:

They are both slands though right?

Okay, why do you think there are no similarities ?

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Have you been to either?

Herb & Suds said:

“Free Hawaii “
Any state is free to secede
Russia
Florida
Texas
If you are listening

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You know..Russia is another state here..it took someone else to prove it to me..I had my suspicions.

PopAndSonGrows said:

Have you been to either?

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Yes. Do you think an attack on either is justified?

Rob Roy said:

They are both islands though right?

Okay, why do you think there are no similarities ?

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This isn't 1898 when the US annexed Hawaii. The world is a much different place.

In 1959 93% of Hawaiians including native Hawaiians voted for statehood.

It's completely different.

xtsho said:

This isn't 1898 when the US annexed Hawaii. The world is a much different place.

In 1959 93% of Hawaiians including native Hawaiians voted for statehood.

It's completely different.

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So if a majority of native hawaiian people stopped getting USA military related "welfare" and "bribe money" and wanted to secede, you'd be okay with that ?

Are you saying that it would NOT be okay for China to seize Taiwan today because times have changed and seizing was cool in 1898, but seizing ain't cool now ? Are there are other things besides that ?

If China planted China loyalists on Taiwan and held a vote, that'd be cool if it benefitted them?

Rob Roy said:

So if a majority of native hawaiian people stopped getting USA military related "welfare" and "bribe money" and wanted to secede, you'd be okay with that ?

Are you saying that it would NOT be okay for China to seize Taiwan today because times have changed and seizing was cool in 1898, but seizing ain't cool now ? Are there are other things besides that ?

If China planted China loyalists on Taiwan and held a vote, that'd be cool if it benefitted them?

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You're just being silly. I have better things to do than bother with this thread. Have a nice day.

xtsho said:

You're just being silly. I have better things to do than bother with this thread. Have a nice day.

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Well that was quick. Thank you for not annexing the thread.

Aren't most of the people that live on Taiwan already Chinese though ?

Interesting thread.

Not because of the ridiculous comparison made by the OP but because I’ve never seen an American Libertarian shill for a communist Chinese government before.

i think he just starts posts to create arguments , i wouldnt give in to it tbh

sunni said:

i think he just starts posts to create arguments , i wouldnt give in to it tbh

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Oh I’m not giving in to anything,

CunningCanuk said:

Oh I’m not giving in to anything,

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Hilarious.