single cola plants?

Getting some good buds starting. Strange though, the difference in size at sexing. Some have been a foot at sex time while others (most) only 7-9 inches. I normally set them all sexed at the same size but then again I normally only do two strains. Being bagseed mights me the cause for the difference. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Anyone noticed any increase in yeild from plants that were taller than others at sexing time? What I'm wondering is if those would have bore bud. Seems to me the bigger the plant when you sex it that the more bud it will eventually give you. Right or Wrong?

Oh, anyone know how to take better pictures with a digital camera? Something about my 1000w hps seems to screw with it and my camera phone. It makes the screen flicker and not take clear photos. I'd like to be able to post better pics but can't figure out how, short of pulling the plants out, which everyone knows is a pain and stressful on them.

Thanks, everyone, for your posts and interest in the thread. Everyone at Rollitup.org has been great!

-The Dude

Plants are looking really good man, the pics don't look bad. My HPS does the same thing, to my camera phone, I havn't tryed my new HD digital yet, I hope it works ok!

awesome thread +rep!!!

Yeah, I can manage to snap a few good ones but I have to take a lot. Most just come out to bright or to dark. Wierd. Oh well, when there totally done I'll take em' out and snap some good close-ups. Any way to stop the camera from doing that?

Thanks Gallo.

-The dude

Here's an off topic question. Anyone know the marijuana laws in Glasgow, Scotland? Know anyone that has lived there or something? Is there anywhere in the world where private citizen cultivation is legal? I thought Amsterdam but I can't find anywhere that says you can grow say with a permit or something. Looking to relocate outside the U.S.

Thanks again,
-The Dude

so basically just snip the fans for more room, and put multiple plants in a small area for sog.
-noob ofc

i have a feeling your really going to like this method... my plants which were cuttings taking cpl weeks into flowering were revegged for 3 weeks then put back into flower because i left them outside for a week.. anyways, now there under a 400 watter and there looking like fat mittens.... the internodes are super tight.. can't tell if the nodes are going to branch out or just finish out as a bud spear

your plants are kind of stemmy actually, maybe should should experiment with some one cola plants and then top the others... my mitten plant is less than 10'' tall but has like 12 internodes..... i think internode is the right word to use... it has 12 different sections of the plant were two nodes protrude

It looks like u went on and purposely stretched your plants. from my experience if they that skinny they fall right over. to thicken lower the light and get a fan on them, or you gonna tie strings to al them? just for fun here is my setup, its that 11 plant setup they got on the net, i have not fifnished yet. Gl, i found that heat is my biggest prob, it really gets to the buds!

Very cool design man, can't wait to see it in action!

Thereatfords im doing the same thing. You mind if I contribute to your thread with pics and such?

Eharmony420 said:

It looks like u went on and purposely stretched your plants. from my experience if they that skinny they fall right over. to thicken lower the light and get a fan on them, or you gonna tie strings to al them? just for fun here is my setup, its that 11 plant setup they got on the net, i have not fifnished yet. Gl, i found that heat is my biggest prob, it really gets to the buds!

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Eharmony that is amazing. great work.

I'm EXTREMELY interested in your thread. I am attempting the same thing with a bubbler system. I have 5 plants, one which is tall and whispy through my own fault. I am going to switch from 18-6 tomorrow to 12/12. I also Germinated from seed and they look small but healthy...bag seed u know. Thanks for reassuring my notion of perp. harvest w single colas!

Hard to respond to multiple threads at once. Of course you all can contribute. The more info and growers contributing, the more useful this thread will be for others.

I didn't "purposely" stretch them. When I planted the seeds, I left them on the window sill to sprout and they did some almost 2 inches in a day or too. I was afraid of my 1000w being to intense. But other than that, as soon as they sprouted I put them under a 1000w hps at 12/12. Started flower light cycle at day one. Most plants seemed to stay in veg for 7-12 days then flower hormones begin to be produced. 10-13 days into flower they showed sex. Longer than I expected honestly. But, the upside is, the longer they grow, the more bud I'll get (probably).

But other than that I don't see much stretching. Tall yes but with only one cola and no branches to offset main stem growth, what do you expect. It seems to depend entirely on the "unknown" bagseed strains. Some were sexed at 4 inches while others went to 12 inches or so before showing sex. I assume the difference is normal due to the difference in strains sativa/indica/strain. My growing conditions are the exactly the same for all plants. Down to the drop of water. I didn't want to jeapordize the validity of the experiment by adding to many non-constant variables.

I'm not going to tie them. Other than stakes when they get a little more wait on them. You'll see. Unless someone can offer a better tieing solution for single cola plants.

Absolutely this type of grow seems not only possible but worthwhile. One thing to consider is: Typically in the U.S. the states governs how many plants constitutes what degree felony. I.E- The more plants the worse if caught. So it makes more sense to me if you live in say Florida where the limit is only 25 plants than you grow less, but bigger plants. Whereas if the limit were Maine's at 99 plants. You could do 99 single colas. Does that make sense?

Thanks again for the great contributions all. Stay safe!

-The Dude

Lookin good man, they are coming along nicely! This whole experiment interests me, because I'd like to eventually(when I can afford it) get an Omegagarden. I know some people don't like them, but I've always been very interested, and from what i've heard they work swimmingly!!! In that system, you basically put clones almost directly into 12/12. Maybe 1 week of veg just to strengthen the roots. So i'm eager see how it goes for you. How many total plants do you have flowering rght now?

These 2 plants were grown from seed in 12/12 light, well actually they were seedlings for 5 days and then 12/12 ever since.

They are approximately 43 days old since sprouting. One (the bushy one) has been topped at the main stem and then topped on the 2 main stems that grew from the first topping. It has exploded in growth, so I supercropped it just as an experiment as you can see the 3 branches I cropped in the last photo.

They are both females, call it beginners luck but I had 3 females out of the first 4 plants I ever grew. I can live with a 75% ratio

I will Keep updating in my own post just wanted to share

i suggest a scrog screen for the sea of green you have. originally that how i first saw the sog done. you place all the colas in the screen and their u got the "sea". chicken wire i have seen often,i gatherthe inagination can wander here. good luck.

Ya I had always seen SOG and SCROG used synonymously. Until I got on the forum, I had never seen a SOG that didn't have a screen. I'd like to know what makes it a SOG with out the screen? Just having a bunch of smaller plants instead of only a couple big ones?

saine420 said:

don't top it and cut lower branches off as it grows so all strength is focused on that cola. We used to call it spearing.

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Also trim all lower branches during weeks 1 and 3 of flowering. This is called lollipoping and it is used for SOG method. That is what i do with all of my clones in my table. Check this page out http://members.tripod.com/budsus_1/id31.htm.

atombomb: Is that without side branch topping? You only did the suppercropping and topped it right. Question though, why top them so far into flower? Awesome looking for a cfl grow. Very nice.

I thought of a traditional SOG but the screen for my dro set up wont work really. Plus, it's only 25 plants, to much hassle I figured. So I thought of just loosely tieing them to a stake to support the weight. I'm not looking for even light distribution, just strengthening. I'll spread them out a little once I get them all sexed. Last 8 are being stubborn for some reason. I have 22 females so far though. So far a perfect 50% percent ratio.

Traditionally a SOG is used to provide even light distribution throughout your canopy. To stop the plant from focusing all the growth to a "main" cola. Thereby making all the buds the same size. It wouldn't matter how you trained the plant. Low stress methods are preferd, (screen), while tying with rope, paperclips, (I've even seen rubberbands and Milk crates used), will still accomplish a even canopy. But the more you stress the plant, the more it recoups, the less your yeild!

So I figured with a single cola grow there is no need for light distribution. So long as the plants have a little space and a good light. The point of this grow IS to focus the growth on ONE cola. Not multiple branches with even bud sites.

Lollypopping is basically what I'm doing. Haven't been to exact with the timeing but I eliminated all lower branch growth in the bottom 1/3. I don't plan on doing any trimming that isn't absolutly nessesary. I'm old school about stressing my girl. If you search lollypopping on the tags portion of rollitup there's some good pics.

Thanks everyone
-The Dude