Skunky weed

Hello weed nerds. Get this I am Lazy, like really lazy so i use super soil (water only works great for me) I am so lazy that i have stoped feeding sugers at the end of flower (raw suger, mollassas) and i just water all the way thogh, well now every plant i harvest smells like a skunks asshole (this is a good thing) jillybean was almost to sweet and over powering when i used to give sugers, now with no sugers it smells super skunky, I have known this for about 6 mounts now, but have been waiting to verify before i posted it.
If you grow in super soil and
you want sweet tasting/smelling weed give it suger, if you want to smoke some skunk weed, just water to the end with no sugers.

if you dont belive me try it on one plant. We discovered this by forgeting to add suger, and we wre all like wow some of this plants smell/taste differnt, (i was like they all came from the same mother plant so the gentics are the same.

now all my plants dont get any suger, and my whole block smells like a skunk farm.

Whats your opinion on this????

My opinion is your results were completely due to a phenotype.

Sunbiz1 said:

My opinion is your results were completely due to a phenotype.

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1 seed with two phenotypes

. it is not makeing it something it is not, it is just alowing for cercen traits to over power other traits.

Yeah I can't agree with this hypothesis.
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Dont get me wrong i love the smell of skunk, I dont understand why giving it just plain water would make it smell like skunk, yeah I think you got two different pheno, plus i think sweet tasteing is better then skunk tasting

lets just put it this way, jillybean was almost overpowering sweet,/citrus, i was gonna get rid of it, intill i stopped giving it sugers, and it really skunkened up, (i am also useing used soil so that mite help the skunkyness.
I have never heard of differnt phenotypes from the same seed... i can pretty cofadently call B.S. on that one. (wow i can't spell. LOL)

if i am not mistacking Jillybean has skunk in it. all i did was manipulate the terpen profile by staveing it of sugers i guess.

adding sugers makes the weed sweeter correct???? so less suger would make it not as sweet right? it just aloud for the skunk smell to come though.

I guess I should keep my experiments to myself and my freinds who are after the best weed possible, I thoght some of you guys were after the best also. sorry

KushDog said:

adding sugers makes the weed sweeter correct???? so less suger would make it not as sweet right?

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adding sugArs feeds the micro organisms in the soil

Raw honey lends distinct sweet floral notes to
your smoke that you can't get from sugars.
I always prefered skunk over sweet though.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/559646-honey-supplement.html

I found this on the internet, i dont know if he is correct or not, never met the dude, but somebody said

"Sucanat supplemented herb has an aroma and flavor all its own. It won't cover up the natural smell of your plants, but it'll add an extra richness and flavor to the strain. Some varieties that I've seen grown with Sucanat take on the flavor so much that they smell like carmel candy when you break up a bud. Joints rolled with Sucanat-grown ganja taste delicious all the way down to last ember burning against your fingertip. Bong hits linger on your tongue for hours, and even a quick hit off a pipe during lunch break becomes a momentary orgasm of sweet, savory goodness as the smoke rolls of your lips."

Diff pheno

how do you make a strain change phenotype? It would be worth doing, you could taylor a strain to your liking. I only have two strains jillybean and ace of spades, both from seed by TGA.

I wanna try to change the phenotype of a plant to make it taste more like blueberry, just gotta figure out the trigger to make it happen.

i think it would be cool, I could have all the same plants so they all grow the same but change the phenotype so i could have 1 really skunky, 1 really sweet/tangy, and get one to change to blueberry or just more berry. that way they are all the same height and streacth the same. I already know how to change the phenotype from sweet/tangy to skunky, how should i go about makeing one taste like berrys? I have ran these two strains since may 2011, so it would be nice to make than have diffent phenotypes like you guys said.
I been trying to research how to swicth phenos, but can't find shit, everything says they come from differnt seeds. but mine came from the same seed,

I guess I should keep my experiments to myself and my freinds who are after the best weed possible, I thoght some of you guys were after the best also. sorry

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Take your ball and go home? Maybe have a thicker skin instead. You started an interesting topic, but don't expect everyone to agree with your experiment. Your sample size is too small to be scientific and we are all growers here; many with lots of experience of their own that may conflict with your results. Do you prefer we engage you in discussion or stay silent and ignore your topic?

I actually agree with you somewhat. The sugar is mainly for the micro-life, but feeding the micro-besties should affect the plant indirectly. There seems to be a lot of controversy on RIU and ICG as to if the plant can use the carbs directly and I'm not sure which sources I believe. I did notice that when I started using sugars 5-6 years ago (Bud Candy at the time) that I did get stronger smelling more flavorful pot. I think that terpene production may be boosted somehow.

KushDog said:

I found this on the internet, i dont know if he is correct or not, never met the dude, but somebody said

"Sucanat supplemented herb has an aroma and flavor all its own. It won't cover up the natural smell of your plants, but it'll add an extra richness and flavor to the strain. Some varieties that I've seen grown with Sucanat take on the flavor so much that they smell like carmel candy when you break up a bud. Joints rolled with Sucanat-grown ganja taste delicious all the way down to last ember burning against your fingertip. Bong hits linger on your tongue for hours, and even a quick hit off a pipe during lunch break becomes a momentary orgasm of sweet, savory goodness as the smoke rolls of your lips."

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hehe some guy? sub said this. thats pretty funny.

no idea about the sugar thing. I have had a similar experience using 2 different nutes on same og clones. one time skunk second time pine same clone. idk if more complete/avail of one or more nute favored production of a specific terpene, or if lack of a specific nute (or overdose idk) retarded production of specific terpenes. it's kinda interesting but i havn't found any good info on what could be causing it.

KushDog said:

how do you make a strain change phenotype?

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you don't. Did you even take high school freshman biology? I hate to be rude but do a little research before talking/asking questions. Your phenotypes are going to come from different seeds of the same strain. Each seed is going to be a different combination of genetic data from it parents. That's why when you grow out multiple seeds of a strain the plants are each a little or possibly even very different. thus phenotypes

think about when people have kids. A set of parents have four children. They do not have four identical offsprings then tailor them to their liking as the kids grow up. Each of the four children will be different

I'm down with that but how can one explain the variation between clones?

The devellopment rate could easily be explained but how could one put to light the fact that two clone that have the same genetic make-up can grow differently if you keep cloning them and selecting the best offsprings?

Not a trick question here i was asking myself: i had that trainwreck keeper i kept for a while an through selection one of the "offspring" (3rd generation or so) ended up being a much better producer, better resin etc, when every 1st generation of clones was from the same mother and all got the same feeding regimen, i rotate the pots everyday etc...

reverse your experiment and make her sweet again then we will be getting somewhere. as plants age they mature ie. plant cloned and flowered at 3months from germ is not potent or even expressing its full geno as opposed to the same plant at 6

Also different branches might express the pheno differently. So clones from different branches may show different expressions of the pheno.

gladway said:

reverse your experiment and make her sweet again then we will be getting somewhere. as plants age they mature ie. plant cloned and flowered at 3months from germ is not potent or even expressing its full geno as opposed to the same plant at 6

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Yeah man i do them both ways, sweet and skunky, The jilly bean seams to be a very sweet strain with a underlying skunk to her, insted of trying to make the sweet strain sweeter i made it less sweet, which really brought out the skunk.

It is also skunkyer with used super soil, so probaly has to do with lack of nutrents/ more of a fade,


All i was trying to get acrossed was That my jillybean was almost over poweringly sweet/tangy/orange peely, Super good to smoke a bag of, but after smokeing OZ's/pounds of that super sweet shit I was ready to kick it to the curb, and go find a nice skunk bud..... but I ended getting that skunkyness i was looking for from Jillybean by not giveing her any sugers only rain water and reuseing my super soil, which i think is badass. and I was just trying to spead what i have learned, fresh super soil and sugers = 80% sweet/tangy/orangey and 20% skunkyness) but when i use Used supersoil and no sugers I get 80% skunk and 20% sweet/orange.


Just like you can harvest a plant early or late depending on the effects you want from it, I think it is possable to also manipulate the smell/taste of a plant too.

As for all that phenotype bullshit, i was just funking around, I know how all that shit works. I was just trying to get the point acrossed that it is the same plant, came from a seed, and is 2 Years old.


But I am not a computer person that lives online, I am a Grower/Stoner that is after the best tasteing pot there is. and figure i would share what i Have done.

stay stoned. i know i will. I am out of here , peace