Smokin males?

Bigtacofarmer

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I'm about to test a bunch of males and was wondering what to expect in terms of flavor and high. I want to breed for quality. Does the male produce a decent quality of smoke or can I expect to be judging base on it sort of tasting good. I also thought about making some earwax to help determine quality. How likely is it to find a male that is kick ass smoke? Also I have a spare set of T5's, can I flower them under that and still get a good example or do I have to bust out the 600? Thank you
 

*BUDS

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No ive never heard of pollen dust getting people stoned just headaches. Cant you get some females?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The only effective way to evaluate a male's goodness is through its daughters. That reason more than any other is what distinguishes breeders from chuckers. Pollen chucking is easy. A sound breeding program is necessarily long, laborious and completely dependent on the breeder's ability and willingness to keep detailed records. cn
 

Dizzle Frost

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The only effective way to evaluate a male's goodness is through its daughters. That reason more than any other is what distinguishes breeders from chuckers. Pollen chucking is easy. A sound breeding program is necessarily long, laborious and completely dependent on the breeder's ability and willingness to keep detailed records. cn
well put polar bear! not bad for being born blind lol


Making seeds is caveman easy...breeding good weed is a lil diff, yur going about it backwards. Your parent strains are your backbone, so a good mother is needed...get yurself something stable to fuck around with. Read as much as you can about genetics and breeding, thats your best start right there. Theres nothing wrong with experimenting tho.

For male selection your gonn ahave to get to know the strain a lil bit to see what phenotypes do what.....hence its a long process....yur looking at years in most cases to stabilize a strain
 

Bigtacofarmer

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I've done alot of reading and understand all the rules. I'm not trying to rush anything either. I have alot of great moms and have been saving some boys along they way also. I started buying two packs instead of one hoping for better phenos. I have alot of strains that have similar ancestory, I have been purchasing them with some line breeding in mind. What I want to do is take about 40 males in 20 oz cups and flower them real short, let them mature, cure them and do an honest assesment on there quality. I have smoked my share of leaf and shake and such and know males are not going to be best. I want to know if they will have enough flavor and thc present to have clear winners. I know that the real proof is in the offspring but you need to choose some parents in order to have some offspring. Using the scratch and sniff method of choosing a dad I tent to choose really perfumey plants and miss the ones that I prefer smoking. I've gone through about 30 different strains on my way to this point so while I may be choosing from a smaller population I know all my girls are very stand out and will blow away most peoples best (not bragging). Thanks a bunch
 

Dizzle Frost

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what are you trying to breed?

you want diversity in your parents not all strains that have simaler genetics...certain strains breed true for charachterisitics, and some dont. No need for 40 males either..jus take 3-4 of your most robust strongest males, or selct one real nice one.

i cant say ive ever smoked a male plant to test it...but i did have a male that was full of trichs, i jus binned it after i was doen tho lol, i didnt feel like tryin to sep polen from trichs, it was all stuck to the sticky shit.
 

Bigtacofarmer

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DJ short smokes his males. What you are suggesting is only one step better than pollen chucking. Unless you are breeding for vigor, size, weight, height, pest resistance, etc. Have you ever wondered what the best smoke seem to usually grow on fucked up plants (low yeilding, tricky) that is because there is only so many traits you can breed for at one time. If you breed for quality enough generations in a row you'll likely get great smoke on funky not so easy to grow plants. If I wanted the healthiest or highest yeild that is very simple to breed for and you don't even need to smoke you females, just get out you scale and go. I intend to only breed for quality of smoke and when I have the smokeable traits I love locked down I will purchase someone elses high yeilding variety and make F1's. The male is equally important as far a quality goes. I've read alot on dog breeding and the rules are about the same but errors are more obvious because they result in vet bills instead of bad smoke.

As far as what I'm trying to breed, I have a bunch of OG kush and Diesel crosses that I want to work with first. They all have that really amazing flavor that makes me a kush fiend and they will hold there own with any Diesel or Kush I've been able to come across (I've spent alot of time in Colorado and the SF bay area puffin hard). I want to make 2 parallel lines and recross them later. I don't intend to sell seeds but wan't to know that I have a lifetime supply of the ganga I love. I intend to work on a berry strain also but not this time around.

If I don't like the quailty of the males I will probably make oil with them, I'll take a precise amount of plant matter so I can weigh and compare resin content and that should still make a tasty puff.

If I had the resources I would like to have location for just the boys so I could breed for nothing but quality males for a few generations. I imagine that if there was a few packs of seeds that guaranteed kick ass males as well as females they would be in high demand. I hate to give up strains because of space issues but sometime you have to. One of the hardest decisions is to find the right strains for backing up your old ones. I'm no expert but I'm well past playin.
 

mccumcumber

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What are you gonna smoke, the pollen pods? I'm sure you could, I've always seen a few trichs on my pollen pods. But genetically speaking males only have 3-5% thc, unless they are hermies. If the smoke ends up being good let us know!
 

Bigtacofarmer

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Not really expecting good but I hope to at least identify which are the best, would love to find some kush funk on one of them! I've read the small leaves around to pollen is where the largest concentration of thc would be.
 

cannofbliss

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Not really expecting good but I hope to at least identify which are the best, would love to find some kush funk on one of them! I've read the small leaves around to pollen is where the largest concentration of thc would be.
hey... that is how the best and most potent crosses come to existence today kinda how white widow came to be...

it is best when breeding to always test the male's potency... that way its progeny will have combined with a potent female the highest genetic possibility to have uber high thc levels...

just for instance there was a male church that had a good sized branch chopped off and was dried and had only about a couple of grams of it and it sent me to the fing moon... now even though im positive on what is potent and what is not and even have a good tolerance... it was almost as strong as some of the best kush ive ever come across...

id have to say that had to have been the most potent male ever...:eyesmoke:
 
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