VILEPLUME
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57588462/snowden-leak-of-nsa-spy-programs-marks-my-end/
I just unplugged my webcam.
I just unplugged my webcam.
Snowden: Leak of NSA spy programs
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Only your webcam? It sounds like ever appliance in my house has been compromised. I knew that fucking waffle maker couldn't be trusted.
Dude is putting a bed sheet over his computer when he logs in to protect from a camera seeing his passwords, pillows up against the door to keep them from hearing what he is saying...the dude is either crazy, or paranoid for many good reasons.
If he's the source of these fucks spying on us, then he's A-Okay in my book. Fuck those peeping tom putos.
Dude is putting a bed sheet over his computer when he logs in to protect from a camera seeing his passwords, pillows up against the door to keep them from hearing what he is saying...the dude is either crazy, or paranoid for many good reasons.
If he's the source of these fucks spying on us, then he's A-Okay in my book. Fuck those peeping tom putos.
echelon1k1
New Member
if you don't want a device running either physically remove it or disable it in the BIOS or device manager. Don't believe all that AJ shit, I know for a fact Panasonic don't have any of nthat kind of shit in their appliances, I've taken a plasma apart to check for myself and there is no truth to it...
Doer
Well-Known Member
Funny, I just taped mine over and about to do the same with the xbox kenect. On demand only now....fuckers
Of course, you speakers are very large microphones also. Just sensing.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Well the body-noise talent scouts need to get the lead out then!! cn
stoned cockatoo
New Member
[video=youtube;WAQlsS9diBs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQlsS9diBs&feature=player_embedded[/video]
echelon1k1
New Member
Obama told friends he reneged on progressive promises out of fear of assassination — former CIA analyst
Obama has abandoned progressive principles, such as stopping drone attacks and shutting down Guantanamo, because he is afraid of being assassinated, telling friends, "Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?" retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern said today.
He’s afraid of what happened to Martin Luther King Jr. And I know from a good friend who was there when it happened, that at a small dinner with progressive supporters – after these progressive supporters were banging on Obama before the election, Why don’t you do the things we thought you stood for? Obama turned sharply and said, "Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?" That’s a quote, and that’s a very revealing quote.
McGovern spoke on WBAI's show Law and Disorder this morning. He was talking about his recent article calling Obama "a wuss" and speculated that Obama had also placed John Brennan as head of the CIA out of fear that the CIA might turn on him, as it had on John Kennedy.
I’m pretty convinced the President of the United States is afraid of the CIA. That’s why he got John Brennan in place. He thinks John Brennan owes more personal loyalty to him than all those other thugs out there who did the torture and so forth. That’s a questionable thing. But Obama thinks that. And that’s why he fought so hard so that Brennan would be in place.
During his CIA career, Ray McGovern prepared daily briefings for the president and chaired the National Intelligence Estimates. He is now a leading antiwar activist.
The crucial segment of the interview begins at about 48 minutes. Hosts Michael Smith and Michael Ratner, both lawyers with long careers in civil and human rights, ask McGovern about the Obama drones speech. McGovern marveled that the Senate granted to Obama "the power to release 86 prisoners" from Guantanamo. "Why doesn’t he do that?" He could release them “at the snap of his finger.”
Ratner then said, "I represent Guantanamo people. I thought the biggest lie in the speech was—'I have tried to close Guantanamo.'" There are half a dozen ways in which Obama "has actually sabotaged the closing of Guantanamo. Straight lie."
McGovern responded:
Which leads to the question, why would he do all these things? Why would he be afraid for example, to take the drones away from the CIA? Well, I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s afraid. Number one, he’s afraid of what happened to Martin Luther King Jr. And I know from a good friend who was there when it happened, that at a small dinner with progressive supporters – after these progressive supporters were banging on Obama before the election, "Why don’t you do the things we thought you stood for?" Obama turned sharply and said, "Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?" That’s a quote, and that’s a very revealing quote.
The other thing is, I’ve always been kind of shocked that when he came into office, not only did he not prosecute the torturers, the kidnapers, the people with the black [unintelligible], even the people who violated our Fourth Amendment rights, but he left them all in place. I suspected at the time, now I’m pretty convinced the president of the United States is afraid of the CIA. That’s why he got John Brennan in place. He thinks John Brennan owes more personal loyalty to him than all those other thugs out there who did the torture and so forth. That’s a questionable thing. But Obama thinks that. And that’s why he fought so hard so that Brennan would be in place.
Now does he have any reason to fear the CIA? Well he sure as heck does. For those of your listeners who have not read James Douglass’s JFK and the Unspeakable, you need to read that, because it’s coming up on 50 years. The mystery has not been solved in the mainstream press. After reading James Douglass, who took advantage of all the previous studies, plus all the more recent information released by Congress, I’m convinced that John Kennedy was assassinated largely by Allan Dulles whom he cashiered as the head of the CIA after the Bay of Pigs, and a coterie of joint chiefs of staff, FBI, even some Secret Service folks who thought that JFK was being soft on Communism by back channel communications with Krushchev, that he was playing games with Fidel Castro…to repair the relationship, and worst of all he was giving Southeast Asia to the Communists. Now is there evidence for this? There sure as heck is. John Kennedy signed two executive orders just a month or so before he was killed. One of them said we’re pulling out 1000 troops out of South Vietnam by the end of the year, the year being 1963. The other said we’re going to pull out the bulk of the troops by 1965, we’re finished in Vietnam. That’s a matter of record. Was that a unanimous decision? Well if you say the president makes a one person decision, you know it’s unanimous. Everybody else thought he was crazy, especially the joint chiefs of staff.
So you need to read this book, and then you need to reflect on Obama. If he is sort of a wuss or a wimp or a person who just has no real principles but is rather a politician through and through-- and he’s got two small kids and he doesn’t want to get killed. I have to say I never thought I would hear myself saying this, but it is the only logical explanation for why he is so afraid, unless you say the man is a through and through charlatan, that he actually is acting on behalf of these forces of darkness. I don’t believe the latter. I think he’s just afraid and he shouldn’t have run for president if he was going to be this much of a wuss.
Host Michael Smith, who's read the Douglass book and found it convincing, agreed with McGovern. Ratner demurred somewhat. "I just think Obama is an accommodator. He's shown that from the very beginning. The guy is just an incredible accommodator." Smith said he doesn't see McGovern's idea and Ratner's as contradictory.
Obama has abandoned progressive principles, such as stopping drone attacks and shutting down Guantanamo, because he is afraid of being assassinated, telling friends, "Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?" retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern said today.
He’s afraid of what happened to Martin Luther King Jr. And I know from a good friend who was there when it happened, that at a small dinner with progressive supporters – after these progressive supporters were banging on Obama before the election, Why don’t you do the things we thought you stood for? Obama turned sharply and said, "Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?" That’s a quote, and that’s a very revealing quote.
McGovern spoke on WBAI's show Law and Disorder this morning. He was talking about his recent article calling Obama "a wuss" and speculated that Obama had also placed John Brennan as head of the CIA out of fear that the CIA might turn on him, as it had on John Kennedy.
I’m pretty convinced the President of the United States is afraid of the CIA. That’s why he got John Brennan in place. He thinks John Brennan owes more personal loyalty to him than all those other thugs out there who did the torture and so forth. That’s a questionable thing. But Obama thinks that. And that’s why he fought so hard so that Brennan would be in place.
During his CIA career, Ray McGovern prepared daily briefings for the president and chaired the National Intelligence Estimates. He is now a leading antiwar activist.
The crucial segment of the interview begins at about 48 minutes. Hosts Michael Smith and Michael Ratner, both lawyers with long careers in civil and human rights, ask McGovern about the Obama drones speech. McGovern marveled that the Senate granted to Obama "the power to release 86 prisoners" from Guantanamo. "Why doesn’t he do that?" He could release them “at the snap of his finger.”
Ratner then said, "I represent Guantanamo people. I thought the biggest lie in the speech was—'I have tried to close Guantanamo.'" There are half a dozen ways in which Obama "has actually sabotaged the closing of Guantanamo. Straight lie."
McGovern responded:
Which leads to the question, why would he do all these things? Why would he be afraid for example, to take the drones away from the CIA? Well, I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s afraid. Number one, he’s afraid of what happened to Martin Luther King Jr. And I know from a good friend who was there when it happened, that at a small dinner with progressive supporters – after these progressive supporters were banging on Obama before the election, "Why don’t you do the things we thought you stood for?" Obama turned sharply and said, "Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?" That’s a quote, and that’s a very revealing quote.
The other thing is, I’ve always been kind of shocked that when he came into office, not only did he not prosecute the torturers, the kidnapers, the people with the black [unintelligible], even the people who violated our Fourth Amendment rights, but he left them all in place. I suspected at the time, now I’m pretty convinced the president of the United States is afraid of the CIA. That’s why he got John Brennan in place. He thinks John Brennan owes more personal loyalty to him than all those other thugs out there who did the torture and so forth. That’s a questionable thing. But Obama thinks that. And that’s why he fought so hard so that Brennan would be in place.
Now does he have any reason to fear the CIA? Well he sure as heck does. For those of your listeners who have not read James Douglass’s JFK and the Unspeakable, you need to read that, because it’s coming up on 50 years. The mystery has not been solved in the mainstream press. After reading James Douglass, who took advantage of all the previous studies, plus all the more recent information released by Congress, I’m convinced that John Kennedy was assassinated largely by Allan Dulles whom he cashiered as the head of the CIA after the Bay of Pigs, and a coterie of joint chiefs of staff, FBI, even some Secret Service folks who thought that JFK was being soft on Communism by back channel communications with Krushchev, that he was playing games with Fidel Castro…to repair the relationship, and worst of all he was giving Southeast Asia to the Communists. Now is there evidence for this? There sure as heck is. John Kennedy signed two executive orders just a month or so before he was killed. One of them said we’re pulling out 1000 troops out of South Vietnam by the end of the year, the year being 1963. The other said we’re going to pull out the bulk of the troops by 1965, we’re finished in Vietnam. That’s a matter of record. Was that a unanimous decision? Well if you say the president makes a one person decision, you know it’s unanimous. Everybody else thought he was crazy, especially the joint chiefs of staff.
So you need to read this book, and then you need to reflect on Obama. If he is sort of a wuss or a wimp or a person who just has no real principles but is rather a politician through and through-- and he’s got two small kids and he doesn’t want to get killed. I have to say I never thought I would hear myself saying this, but it is the only logical explanation for why he is so afraid, unless you say the man is a through and through charlatan, that he actually is acting on behalf of these forces of darkness. I don’t believe the latter. I think he’s just afraid and he shouldn’t have run for president if he was going to be this much of a wuss.
Host Michael Smith, who's read the Douglass book and found it convincing, agreed with McGovern. Ratner demurred somewhat. "I just think Obama is an accommodator. He's shown that from the very beginning. The guy is just an incredible accommodator." Smith said he doesn't see McGovern's idea and Ratner's as contradictory.
VILEPLUME
Well-Known Member
I think it has got a point that anyone in government can lie and truly nothing happens.
Doer
Well-Known Member
No doubt. People can't lie very well. That is what I watch for. I know all the tell tales. As a manager I get lied to, daily.
I saw a guy taking about capabilities. He said it is easy to turn on your cellphone in your pocket if it still has the battery in. Then the conversation in the room can be recorded. But, he lied when he said that has never been used to his knowledge.
I am a firm believer that micro-expressions are automatic, and not registered in the consciousness as memory, and in most cases not controllable. The expressions are very brief, some are under 1/15 a second. Under the eye blink rate.
Easy to miss if you don't know.
Im not sure of the name of the virus (I think it was Stuxnet or Flame) that shut down the Iranian reactors. Those techniques are real and can be duplicated if not created, by rogue hackers. Except there is no money to be made by watching you play Call of Duty in your shitty drawers. Corporate espionage is a possibility, but that's why those big corporations switch phones so often, or aren't even allowed to bring them in to conferences. Remember someone here was busted because someone else blabbed during a Call of Duty online match and it was recorded.
It's all possible, it just depends on the motivation required to pursue it.
It's all possible, it just depends on the motivation required to pursue it.
Doer
Well-Known Member
Yes sir. And all of that was equipment specific. The Honeywell controllers, Stuxnet virus attacked from inside. It had to be injected. It exploited the tiny web of the controllers and had them overheat the 'fuges, aiui.
Remeber we are allowing the Chinese to manufacture process controls here in US companies. Nashian economic warfare is impossible for us to understand. We, and I say we, this time, don't have the math and we are not bold enough to use the algorithms. If we understood them. They are long term and almost unfathomably dangerous.
Those uber-secret conclusions and the techniques suggested by the analysis will look likejust handing secrets away, to us Global Warfare Real, amateurs, such as myself. I saw that under Clinton and the missile guidance secrets. China will have a space station. Good for us, and good for them. They have mega ton throw weight accuracy and India does not. This shit works....it is scary. Nashian vs Confucius vs Machiavelli vs Darius of Persia.
All this is played in China as well, against Global Jihad. China is the ultimate secular state and and very much our friends in the Gestapo/Sharia business.
Remeber we are allowing the Chinese to manufacture process controls here in US companies. Nashian economic warfare is impossible for us to understand. We, and I say we, this time, don't have the math and we are not bold enough to use the algorithms. If we understood them. They are long term and almost unfathomably dangerous.
Those uber-secret conclusions and the techniques suggested by the analysis will look likejust handing secrets away, to us Global Warfare Real, amateurs, such as myself. I saw that under Clinton and the missile guidance secrets. China will have a space station. Good for us, and good for them. They have mega ton throw weight accuracy and India does not. This shit works....it is scary. Nashian vs Confucius vs Machiavelli vs Darius of Persia.
All this is played in China as well, against Global Jihad. China is the ultimate secular state and and very much our friends in the Gestapo/Sharia business.