SOG growers wanted !!!

It doesn't roll off the tongue so well though...

yea thas where i found trouble...LOL

I do like Skunky Thai-nocerous very much! But dam I also like Super Skanky Ungulate!

I had a question about the controller i built so:

dirtysteve said:

deezbud said:

im interested in exactly how you wired that thermostat inline with the motor speed controller. it looks like all the stuff is readily available at home depot. if you can post more pics and give me a better idea of how its wired that would be great. thanks..

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Simple,
You need
1. 1 attic thermostat, they keep it near the attic vents and roofing supplies.
2. 1 5 Amp or better rated fan speed controller. In the ceiling fan section
3. 1 2 recepticle gang box
4. 1 Male plug
5. 1 switch/outlet cover combo
6. 1 duplex outlet rated at least 15 amps
7. A few feet of minimum 14g wire. I just had some 14/2 w/ ground laying around and i used the male end of an old extension cord for the male plug. You could probably get a cheap 6' or so extension cord and use it for your wire and plug. Just make sure it is rated at least 15A.

The speed controller and thermostat both have 2 black wires coming out of them. You take your Hot (Black) wire from your plug and connect it to one black wire each of the speed control and the thermostat. Then connect a piece of insulated 14g wire to the other black wires from the speed control and thermostat. Connect the loose end of the 14g wire into the "HOT" side of your outlet. The white (Neutral) wire from your plug will connect to the "neutral" side of your outlet. The outlet is marked so it is easy to figure out. Then connect your ground wires. Then put it all together in the gang box. I fastened mine to a piece of 3/4" plywood to keep it all neat. The photo has different parts but the same wiring is used. I just put an outlet on mine for ease of operation. Any fan I plug into that outlet will be run by the speed control/thermostat. I case I needed another fan. Hope this helps. If not, just let me know.

This is Al B. Fuct's diagram. Give credit where credit is due.

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How big of a difference will an air stone make in the res?
I don't have one yet and I know they are cheap.

Also my last batch of cuttings that started taking root (the ones with thin steams) still require a humitidy dome over them, otherwise the leaves will curl up.
The first one to take root still needs the dome over her, 4 days later.
New problem for me, any ideas?

ETA because I am stoned and can't spell

thanks,
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i hate air pumps. has the possibility to introduce spores and them germinating....not to mention injecting air into a hydroponic res fluctuates pH and gives wild EC

a powerhead pump moving the water around, keeping the water from becoming stagnant serves the same purpose

Yeah, what Loudblunts said. I took his advice and replaced my four airstones with two $30 powerheads last week and they rock for my 70gal res. The problem with the airstones is that they get all slimy after a month, and having to soak/clean them in peroxide solution is tedious. Also the cheaper blue ones tend to crumble and break incredibly easily.

I might try the powerpump sometime in the future. Thanks!

Powerhead huh?
wouldnt another submersible pump work as well?
let one run in the bottom of he res 24/7 circulating solution?
I currently have no air in my res and I havent had a problem yet, if I do, Im thinking H2O2 will work enough to get me by.
What symptoms are their that you dont have enough O2? nothing?

GreenGold said:

Powerhead huh?

What symptoms are their that you dont have enough O2? nothing?

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Well, for me what did it was having some airborne pathogen get into the res ten days ago, feeding on the nut. solution and frothing their microscopic shit all over the place like some rabid sea. This was with four airstones evenly placed with a monster airpump behind them. When I pulled the stones out to clean the res., all of them were covered in some kind of slime (they were only a month old, maximum).

I thoroughly cleaned the res. with a peroxide/bleach mix and rinsed it with water, filled it up about halfway with clean water and hygrozyme, and flooded the trays for three minutes in an attempt to clean out any nasties that had found their way to the RW cubes or plants or hydroton or sides of the flood trays or whatever. Emptied the hydrozyme solution fromt he res., filled it up completely with full nut. regimen and went back to town on regular feeding. No problems since. This is directly attributable to one of two things: my OCD cleaning of the res./room, or the powerhead pumps I bought and replaced the airstones with on the same day as the super-clean.

Just as far as cleanliness is concerned I like the powerheads over the airstone setup in the reservoir. I think the two powerheads also take less wattage than the one air pump, for what that's worth (30w vs 45w).

Just out of curiosity, would everyone mind a comparison of strain and yield? I am trying to decide on a strain and maybe yous could help. I would hate to go to all the trouble and get mediocre smoke. But, I would also like to get efficient (lots and lots) production. Since I don't live in Cali I cant really do the Pepsi challenge on my own. I have been leaning towards the White Widow just because of it's legendary status. I think that a per plant yield would be best suited since most ops are different in size. Thanks.

skunk1 mild high kinda speedy

dense flowering

GreenGold said:

Powerhead huh?
wouldnt another submersible pump work as well?
let one run in the bottom of he res 24/7 circulating solution?
I currently have no air in my res and I havent had a problem yet, if I do, Im thinking H2O2 will work enough to get me by.
What symptoms are their that you dont have enough O2? nothing?

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same shit different toilet.

powerhead, submersible same thing


but i would think the submersible would spit out the water too high....which is why i recommended powerheads

LoudBlunts said:

same shit different toilet.

powerhead, submersible same thing


but i would think the submersible would spit out the water too high....which is why i recommended powerheads

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I have a small pump for fishtanks to make waves, I think this'll work well
it lays on its side pulling from one side the pushing out the other (instead of up!)

Sure will, I would use it!

yes, very cool GreenGold

i have a few pumps i got from lowes i think that has a swivel output spout. nice

Nice GreenGold. Thanks.

LoudBlunts said:

i hate air pumps. has the possibility to introduce spores and them germinating....not to mention injecting air into a hydroponic res fluctuates pH and gives wild EC

a powerhead pump moving the water around, keeping the water from becoming stagnant serves the same purpose

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You are normally right on with your answers, LB.
Gotta call this one crap though, bro. moving water will not have the same o2 levels at aerated (sp?) water. The more o2 the better. That's why h2o2 works so well. It breaks down to just more o2 in the water. Use the powerhead all you want to stir yer nutes up. That's all good. I use a small water pump for the same job, but i have airstones too.

Not crap at all, sir.

I have the research and papers to back it.

As far as you referencing my powerhead/pump theory......Stirring any solution will aerate it....any movement of the water will cause some kinda aeration. Besides when the water is pumped through system (flood and drain, aero, whatever whatever) its being aerated, period.

In reference to air pumps and further elaboration......

Why do you think those so called 'hydro-organic' nutes specifically tell you NOT to inject air into the hydroponic reservoir? It encourages growth beyond belief, or accelerated growth of a good beneficial bacteria overworking causing other hiccups in your situations and not to mention there are [natural/normal] airborne pathogen around us everyday that may not hurt us, but when it comes to critical water situations (standing stagnant, moving aerated, whichever state its in) injecting air will always encourage wild spore activity, germination, etc etc...i could go on for days

Now sure, there are a million ways to skin a cat, but unless your air pumps have HEPA filters on the intake, it can happen to you too and maybe it is....maybe your h202 is steadily keeping it at bay or frequent res changes, everythings factor.

As far as h202, yuck....i stay away from that stuff as much as i can. however i do always keep some on hand and yea it works, but i dont regularly use it, only when need to.... and sometimes it does more harm then help.

my theory on that is load the nute soup up with goodies let the shit colonize and i doubt a bad cootie could take over a well developed beneficial colony

With all that said, i still blv the best way possible to maintain DO levels are of course not with air pumps, but with cool/cold res temps and movement of the water


but, this is of course my opinion, backed up in certain areas with facts (i have a contact at some water treatment plants...the ones for the muncipal and also the ones who use beneficial bacteria to eat the bad ones for treating water)

but what do i know