SOG growers wanted !!!

I'm just gonna hop right in here and say thanks to everybody that posted in this thread.

I plan on beginning a perpetual SOG Fuct-style grow so let's get this started! Keep in mind that I don't even have the grow house yet, that won't come for at least a few months. I'm trying to plan out the logistics now so that I know what I'm looking for when I start looking for a house.

Basically I plan on devoting a bedroom with a closet and a bathroom to this project. I would like to have the mothers in DWC tubs (from my previous grow) under a 400 MH lamp and an EZ cloner in a walk-in closet. The bathroom will supply water through a RO filter. The bedroom will be the main grow room, with two 1000w HPS lamps over four 3' x 3' flood tables. Rooted clones are going straight to flower. A 6" vortex fan will suck ambient air through a can fan 33, through the two air-cooled fixtures, and then the fan will push the air out through the window via a nifty wooden box that goes over the whole window frame.

Questions...

I noticed in Bugs' purple white widow thread that he used 6" square pots, filled with 1.5" granulated rockwool, and topped off with perlite. Is this referred method or are there other suggestions?

What do you use for reservoirs? What is the capacity, and how much nute soup do you keep in each one?

Using 6" square pots, I've seen a suggested 4 plants per square foot. That means a maximum of 36 plants per 3' x 3' table. That would total out at about 120 plants right?

Do you think this is feasible for one dedicated person that's holding down a 40 hour (9-5) job? I can probably get some help if needed for pruning, but on a day-to-day basis it'd be just me.

Thanks and keep it growin!

1. I use hydrotron in the 6" square pots, they are 7" deep and i fill them about 75% so that when it floods the hydrotron doesn't float out of the pots and into the tray. To start the clones i use rockwool and just place that into the hydrotron upon transfer.

2. Rubbermaid Ruffneck or Roughneck. Those are what i use. Ive had a 300gallon salt water aquarium and i have a 40 gallon roughneck underneath for the sump and it hasn't leaked yet. Prior to that i used other kinds that would start leaking after a few months. If it can survive saltwater it can survive this.

3. I'm going to go with Bugs recommendation of 4 pots per square foot. I'm just barely getting to that stage but as long as you trim them properly they should be able to get enough light.

4. I work about 50 hours a week, i only have a 4x4 tray under a single 1000watt. There is about 15 minutes i spend every morning before i go to work checking nutes and PH and stuff. At night i just check on everything. But every two weeks when it comes time to change the rez and clean my tray i take about 3 hours to do it all. But I am overly detailed i think. If i wasn't so it would take maybe 2 hours.

I'm assuming your RO water maker is standard housing size. The one i just installed can create approx 35 gallons in 24 hours of RO water. I have a 20 gallon rez and put 15 gallons into it, thats for my 2x3 tray for the mothers. For my 4x4 tray i have a 40 gallon res pretty much use 40 gallons. So your going to have quite a lot of work every two weeks, i'd be prepared to spend probably at least a full day messing with it. But man you will have such a badass setup if your diligent. Once i get it going i'm going to pull out my 4x8 tray and step it up a notch. Good luck!

Hello wise council. Got a question. My trees have grown tall enough to touch the light and are burning themselves. I cannot raise the light any higher. Shall i just cut her down to size? These are my mothers by the way.

tame that bitches gnarly bush........i had a sign hung in my room that read: attention, all ladies who do not assimilate will be summarily dispatched.......i think it worked.

Did the sign work hahaha happy new years all... if i see it bwahahahahaha

bugsrnme said:

your just to darn helpfull.......hey i asked about watering my hydroton only filled pots like 5 times a day for the 4 minutes it takes to fill the trays and i was wondering about night time. normally its bad but will my roots dry out if i dont........help

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I got back to you in my thread regarding this, right?

Just making sure.....

onthedl0008 said:

Did the sign work hahaha happy new years all... if i see it bwahahahahaha

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hell ya it worked....

Old in the Way said:

I got back to you in my thread regarding this, right?

Just making sure.....

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sho' nuff

CustomHydro said:

Nevermind I found this picture on google, your neighbor who helped u must have had some time to sneak in a couple snap shots during the blaze...

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what are you the sparkafire backup squad? i dont even get first string taunters these days.

Hows everything bugs? Dude Its almost tax time! Any updated pix yet? What kind of lighting u going with this time? Man i bet this new year is going to bring meaning. Happy for ya bro!

onthedl0008 said:

Hows everything bugs?

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getting better....slowly....

Dude Its almost tax time!

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it's already mapped out and spent.....

Any updated pix yet?

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no, but i will when its ready. it really will be something nice.

What kind of lighting u going with this time?

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2 1000w hps on light movers one 400 for retiring moms and a 600 mh on a light mover to raise both my strains' mommies, and cfl's for the clones

Man i bet this new year is going to bring meaning. Happy for ya bro!

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well let me tell ya.......it had damn sure better be or i'm going back to fuckin church .....lol

Holy shit bro i wish i had the room for all that..cant wait to see it when its all set-up sounds like a fukkin masterpiece man. Wow im already jealous. Yet still excited in some creepy way. HAHA

bugsrnme said:

what are you the sparkafire backup squad? i dont even get first string taunters these days.

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Sorry, I must have not sent my first post otherwise that wouldn't have seemed so mean...
Sorry to hear about ur fire bro!!
Everyone has problems in different ways thats all I can say. U know I've been thru mine and u have been thru urs, we will get this shit done! Then we will take a vacation in Jamaica
I'm lad everyone is safe, it could have been a ton worse!
I wish u the best of luck on the next round.

The original reason I stopped by is to ask u if u are still using perlite? I'm done with that shit. The PH value is way too high and I cant get it down for the life of me. I feel like if I put anymore PH down in I will kill my girls. U have any tips for me other than to get rid of it? Thanks

Only thing i can tell you is flush the bag with fresh h2o until all that white dust is gone. Then soak it in a tub of ph'd water at 5.5 for 24 hours. Drain and enjoy. I switched to hydroton by the way

bugsrnme said:

Only thing i can tell you is flush the bag with fresh h2o until all that white dust is gone. Then soak it in a tub of ph'd water at 5.5 for 24 hours. Drain and enjoy. I switched to hydroton by the way

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Aww ya some hydroton luv...........

bugsrnme said:

tame that bitches gnarly bush........i had a sign hung in my room that read: attention, all ladies who do not assimilate will be summarily dispatched.......i think it worked.

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So your saying cut her main stem down? If so how far down should i cut it? Is there a maximum? like a third of her overall height?

livesoul said:

So your saying cut her main stem down?

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absolutely

If so how far down should i cut it?

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as far as you need to
Is there a maximum? like a third of her overall height?

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no.....just whatever you think she can regrow by the time you need your next batch of cuttings.

Old in the Way said:

Aww ya some hydroton luv...........

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i sure will be before long. and i have you to thank, i got away from it chasing my tail now im coming home to hydroton

Bugs haha While ur around...
I dont completely understand this 1 watt/gram thing.
How many watts of hps lighting does one actually need to cover an area to produce 1 gram/watt in flower or am i completely F'd up and wrong about this.
I was going to hit up old but i think i may have posted more in his thread than he has and dont want to bother him lol

Sorry man just smoked out and this has been bothering me alot.

What is the formula i need to obtain 1 watt/gram in hps bro.

onthedl0008 said:

Bugs haha While ur around...

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ahhh shit ...here we go...

I dont completely understand this 1 watt/gram thing.

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neither do half the people that argue it cant be done.

How many watts of hps lighting does one actually need to cover an area to produce 1 gram/watt in flower or am i completely F'd up and wrong about this.

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well the closest ive come in sog style was .896 grams per watt, but with dwc 5 gallon bucket planters holding 1 each you'll blow that number out of the water.

I was going to hit up old but i think i may have posted more in his thread than he has and dont want to bother him lol

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he's entirely to nice to be bothered.

Sorry man just smoked out and this has been bothering me alot.

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i hear ya bro.

What is the formula i need to obtain 1 watt/gram in hps bro.

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you take your dry yield and divide it by the # of watts your lamp produces.

example: my best grow in sog was 32 plants and right at 2 lbs dry weight....well a lil over but i smoked too much....
so 896 grams divided by the 1000 watt light that grew em gives me a gram to watt ratio of .896 grams per watt .896:1

with other methods of growing you can far surpass 1 gram per watt but sog is still the way to grow for me



now kindly run along.........jk

Yea thanks i think. Just trying to understand and get my grow right bro . Thanks for the help.

onthedl0008 said:

Yea thanks i think.

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i wasnt being snippy....going for funny yet informative

Just trying to understand and get my grow right bro .

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if i didnt help let me know and i'll try again. not usually but you dont suck

Thanks for the help.

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i hope i helped man

U did bro as usual thanks for the insight man... Thats pretty damn close to a g/watt man lol. If im able to accomplish this in my grow ill be happy with that.
U guys r the best just glad i have somewhere to go for proper info man. Keep up the good work.