silasraven
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dude that was intriguing. they were having way to much fun with that.
Space Thread!
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Doer
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Right, toy tech. Still fun. I'm talking about the very idea of the thing.
You could lay is flat and measure the forces as you turn steel shot
around magnetically. That hasn't been done, so not even a toy.
I assume you like toys. I do.
RyanTheRhino
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I half believe they take xanax up there to keep from going insane from the extreme boredom .
The Asian guy is the best lol. whooooooooooooo
Doer
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My very first Si-Fi. 8 years old, now allowed an extra privilege in the libary.
A new section, I can go in there!
Had never heard the term "science fiction." Hold on, what's this?
_Have Space Suit, will Travel_
I'm already humming, "...reads the card of a man, .........Paladin."
Heinlein? <shrug> It's not even cowboy. This kid won a Space Suit!
A new section, I can go in there!
Had never heard the term "science fiction." Hold on, what's this?
_Have Space Suit, will Travel_
I'm already humming, "...reads the card of a man, .........Paladin."
Heinlein? <shrug> It's not even cowboy. This kid won a Space Suit!
Capt. Stickyfingers
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I've been fascinated by outer space ever since the first time I saw the HBO movie intro when I was a kid.
[video=youtube;fD88ROtpnrs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD88ROtpnrs[/video]
[video=youtube;fD88ROtpnrs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD88ROtpnrs[/video]
Check out "When We Left Earth: The NASA Missions" from the Discovery channel. Its streamable on netflix. Pretty astonishing stuff.
It was called the space race for a reason. The drive behind most of it was a race with the ruskies. And back in those days this country had a real sense of unity and was willing to put forth the funding. Well minus Vietnam but you get the point. And everyone sits around and bickers over the budget trying to get the biggest portion for themselves. Not to mention all the problems we have here that we need to deal with i.e. our huge debt and things like our fucked up school system. Shits just too expensive. NASA is developing cheaper single rocket capsules akin to the Gemini rockets, but no matter how you look at it thats a big step down.
Private companies like Virgin Galactic are trying to pick up the slack, and while those are very cool ideas, they just dont have the funding or manpower that the government can throw at the problem. Not to mention they are just non-orbital thrill rides. The private sector will take a long time to catch up, if it ever does.
Today there is a sense of complacency with regard to space flight. Most of us grew up with The shuttle and unless something goes wrong its almost routine. Which is insane considering the extreme danger involved. Hell by the time Apollo got to 14,15,ect they werent even getting televised. We had won the "race" and our short attention spans were back on earth along with our wallets.
Technology isnt the problem here. Cheap techonlogy is. Our smart phones have many times the computing power anything had 15 years ago much less back in the late 60's early 70's when we put men on the moon. What we need is a reason to get back up there. A reason beyond exploration and the fact that its pretty amazing. Maybe if we fuck up our planet enough we will have to leave earth again. Or stumble upon world peace, but honestly which is more likely to happen first?
It was called the space race for a reason. The drive behind most of it was a race with the ruskies. And back in those days this country had a real sense of unity and was willing to put forth the funding. Well minus Vietnam but you get the point. And everyone sits around and bickers over the budget trying to get the biggest portion for themselves. Not to mention all the problems we have here that we need to deal with i.e. our huge debt and things like our fucked up school system. Shits just too expensive. NASA is developing cheaper single rocket capsules akin to the Gemini rockets, but no matter how you look at it thats a big step down.
Private companies like Virgin Galactic are trying to pick up the slack, and while those are very cool ideas, they just dont have the funding or manpower that the government can throw at the problem. Not to mention they are just non-orbital thrill rides. The private sector will take a long time to catch up, if it ever does.
Today there is a sense of complacency with regard to space flight. Most of us grew up with The shuttle and unless something goes wrong its almost routine. Which is insane considering the extreme danger involved. Hell by the time Apollo got to 14,15,ect they werent even getting televised. We had won the "race" and our short attention spans were back on earth along with our wallets.
Technology isnt the problem here. Cheap techonlogy is. Our smart phones have many times the computing power anything had 15 years ago much less back in the late 60's early 70's when we put men on the moon. What we need is a reason to get back up there. A reason beyond exploration and the fact that its pretty amazing. Maybe if we fuck up our planet enough we will have to leave earth again. Or stumble upon world peace, but honestly which is more likely to happen first?
researchkitty
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Welcome to RIU
Very well put............. We need to focus on getting payloads into space, when we do that we can figure out the people part. Mostly because right now if we send a bunch of people out there, they dont have anything but an empty rock or empty planet and no tools or supplies (aka, their payload!) and have to return home to Earth instead..........
Doer
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The Moon is a Harsh Mistress ...Another early sci-fi favorite.
Out of atomosphere is not only harsh, it is harshly mutagenic, too, it seems! You can't even be dirt side anywhere. Have to have dirt shelter. Oh, it can and will be done, I believe. We just about know how.
The idea of remote return fuel production plants hasn't been tried, even on a tiny scale, yet.
The Red Mars series about terraforming opened my eyes. People and politics.
They had a space elevator beanstalk more than once....well, I won't spoil the story.
Out of atomosphere is not only harsh, it is harshly mutagenic, too, it seems! You can't even be dirt side anywhere. Have to have dirt shelter. Oh, it can and will be done, I believe. We just about know how.
The idea of remote return fuel production plants hasn't been tried, even on a tiny scale, yet.
The Red Mars series about terraforming opened my eyes. People and politics.
They had a space elevator beanstalk more than once....well, I won't spoil the story.
Doer
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Hadn't heard of that one, but just reviewed it. Great theme, colonies lost from Earth.
A classic idea.
I just realized something about space invaders. The first place we colonize will likely be Earth's first invaders.
Or said another way, the answer to why the
universe seems so peaceful, is we haven't
been out there, yet?
tyler.durden
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Hey, Neer! Have you heard about Kepler-22b? 600 light years away, it's a large, Earth-like planet believed to be temperate (in the 70s all the time). Check it out:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45554617/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.Tt2UPlaR6Sp
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45554617/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.Tt2UPlaR6Sp
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Yes, thanks! I'm a bit bummed by how very indirect the Kepler method is. Our own planet passing in front of the sun, seen from a distant location, drops its brightness by 0.01% and has a max transit time of half a day. No chance of doing any imaging. I also noticed that they estimated the planet's diameter as 2.4x ours ... so that suggests a high local gravity and most likely a very thick atmosphere. I do not anticipate an effect on real estate prices.
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tyler.durden
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Yes, thanks! I'm a bit bummed by how very indirect the Kepler method is. Our own planet passing in front of the sun, seen from a distant location, drops its brightness by 0.01% and has a max transit time of half a day. No chance of doing any imaging. I also noticed that they estimated the planet's diameter as 2.4x ours ... so that suggests a high local gravity and most likely a very thick atmosphere. I do not anticipate an effect on real estate prices.
I didn't think about the gravity, it would be difficult to get around
Oh well, I guess I'll just keep looking...
Kursed Satan
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space is trippy
silasraven
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http://www.space.com/14290-russia-manned-moon-base-nasa-europe.html well i hope that says enough. theres a market for space craft. so just as the car companies started and all the tech colleges out there got kids working to become w/e space flight will get so simple you can build it yourself. give it a thought.
marcopolo123
Member
@ cannabineer,
hey man they have a solution for your space travell desire...its something we call UFO, but take me seriously here. the germans were the first to reach this kind of technology around WWII. UFOs exist and im not talking about the ones that come from outer space because i have never seen an alien, but the ones that were and still are made on this planet are whats interesting. I can see that you are quit intelligent (much smarter than me) so u should dig around the internet for the "NAZI BELL" and that should lead you into all of the other cool stuff...and please dont forget about the greatest man to walk on this earth Nikola Tesla...lots of his work was NEVER EVER revealed cuz it got stolen from his lab right after he died and we all know who stole his work!! anyways what im really saying is in order for you and i to travell through space, NOT ORBIT around the earth, we need some kind of spacecraft that DOES NOT rely on fluid propulsion...we need something else....but the sad thing is they already have this technology and they r just hiding it from us...even if we had those UFOs or whatever that can take us in space i dont know if we can even leave this earth because of the Van Allen Belts!! and z particles and all of that other wonderful solar wind..lol
btw, no man has EVER put his foot on the moon!!
hey man they have a solution for your space travell desire...its something we call UFO, but take me seriously here. the germans were the first to reach this kind of technology around WWII. UFOs exist and im not talking about the ones that come from outer space because i have never seen an alien, but the ones that were and still are made on this planet are whats interesting. I can see that you are quit intelligent (much smarter than me) so u should dig around the internet for the "NAZI BELL" and that should lead you into all of the other cool stuff...and please dont forget about the greatest man to walk on this earth Nikola Tesla...lots of his work was NEVER EVER revealed cuz it got stolen from his lab right after he died and we all know who stole his work!! anyways what im really saying is in order for you and i to travell through space, NOT ORBIT around the earth, we need some kind of spacecraft that DOES NOT rely on fluid propulsion...we need something else....but the sad thing is they already have this technology and they r just hiding it from us...even if we had those UFOs or whatever that can take us in space i dont know if we can even leave this earth because of the Van Allen Belts!! and z particles and all of that other wonderful solar wind..lol
btw, no man has EVER put his foot on the moon!!
mindphuk
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Funny how nutjob conspiracy theorists never make the conditional statements like "I don't believe man has ever walked on the moon" but instead state their conclusions as if they were undeniable facts and somehow they alone (along with their whacko friends) have special knowledge that contradicts reality.
Sir, this is a science subforum. If you want to play these stupid games, I suggest you post in the wackadoodle forum. Your post is an insult to the fine men and woman that made the Apollo program a success and even more so for those brave men that died in the process.