Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
thanks matt-

i knew the mix wasn't pertinent to extractions but was still curious as to the reason.
do some use propane right out of the can? how bout methane?
propane is a poor solvent for cannabis. and its hard to get it unscented. not sure about methane. I do know that hexane has some real health issues and should not be used for solvent extractions.
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
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matt i see you mainly focus on water extractions. is that due to your feeling that solvents leave trace precipitates.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
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matt i see you mainly focus on water extractions. is that due to your feeling that solvents leave trace precipitates.
some solvents are dirty. mostly its the danger of the actual extraction process that concerns me. folks are blowing up.
 

researchkitty

Well-Known Member
There's two blows to extraction, lets not confuse the two:

Blowout: When your screens come off the tube or the tube goes boom
Blowup: Something sparked the butane and make a combustible explosion

Mostly people see blowouts, not blowups. Blowups are extremely rare. :)
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
There's two blows to extraction, lets not confuse the two:

Blowout: When your screens come off the tube or the tube goes boom
Blowup: Something sparked the butane and make a combustible explosion

Mostly people see blowouts, not blowups. Blowups are extremely rare. :)
They happen big enough to make the news, almost every week. And the third blow up is just pan fires, which are also very common. Static electricity is usually the culprit of pan fires, ground EVERYTHING!

Some afternoon entertainment.
[video=youtube;gzUd8KICcrk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzUd8KICcrk[/video]
[video=youtube;F1jYNQxDEq8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1jYNQxDEq8[/video]
 

researchkitty

Well-Known Member
I think those videos are a poor misrepresentation of what someone extracting oil does..... In the first video they are heating up a pyrex dish with no liquid in it over an open flame, while passing a cigarette multiple times over the alcohol. It didnt explode, though. The Pyrex dish on the stove had cold liquid poured into an incredibly hot empty glass dish. The glass was mistreated *and* the people are morons.

The second video more shows how *safe* it is, look how slow that pan takes to burn and how small the flame is. Easily controllable.

Cant blame stupid people, its only as safe as the people making it :) :) :)
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I think those videos are a poor misrepresentation of what someone extracting oil does..... In the first video they are heating up a pyrex dish with no liquid in it over an open flame, while passing a cigarette multiple times over the alcohol. It didnt explode, though. The Pyrex dish on the stove had cold liquid poured into an incredibly hot empty glass dish. The glass was mistreated *and* the people are morons.

The second video more shows how *safe* it is, look how slow that pan takes to burn and how small the flame is. Easily controllable.

Cant blame stupid people, its only as safe as the people making it :) :) :)
kitty, those videos were entirely for entertainment value. nobody's purrrrfect.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Is the best/safest way to make hash oil with the honeybee?
No, it is with a closed recapture system like a Tamisium Extractor. Lots of really good info on their site. Phillips Rx wins all the cups with a tami.
http://tamisiumextractors.com/

The safest way would be stainless steel tube, with stainless steel screen... with no flames around, in an open space with a little breeze.
I think for quality you may be correct, but certainly not for safety. The quick wash of open systems is good for primo wax. The recapture of a closed system is far safer.

Grounding your blasting tube is also a must if we are talking safety. Its pretty much a no-brainer, but very few do it.
 

jdro

Well-Known Member
Yeah man. I'm not joking about Tamisium being the "best" extractor. Its winning the cups and the chance of fires/explosions is much lower. The small one isn't even that expensive.
I think I would go with the super deluxe package or whatever for the 2 oz, 1399$. I would feel alot better using this in the comfort of my private house as compared to doing it outback where interested onlookers may get a glimpse. Its added to my wishlist, maybe a Christmas present for myself. Not to metion you wont need to be endlessly buying cans of butane.
 
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