Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

dankshizzle

Glassblowing Moderator
I need a tutorial because I didn't see your picture in the 2142 posts? Yeah...
And it wasn't easier to just post a picture rather than make a assanine comment that made no sense? Shit. Nevermind. Sorry I asked..
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
I've posted pictures (in this thread) numerous times. =P We need to get you a vBulletin tutorial.
Regardless you should post some of your new oil up :) . Pleeez, for me?

The last I remember seeing is that bright yellow erlz in that bowl/dish on the scale :)

I don't think vector is better.its just that a lot of people are die hard vector fans. And its probably the most expensive butane out.
Yeah I'm with you on that one now. I feel like vector was decently priced before the whole BHO thing went to High Times and everyone started 'making' BHO.

I definitely think the Power is good stuff too. I'm sure there are more good brands out there but I'll likely stick with the Power 5x for a while :).


if your erl choke you out and make you cough your lungs out does that mean tane is since present?
Depends on how much your dabbing. Everyone has a limit to how much hashish they can inhale before their lungs or esophagus are irritated enough to make you cough :)

I think ResearchKitty was touching on the, "you don't get off til' you cough" saying.. Which I agree with :D :lol:... There is a difference between a cough from hash, and cough from butane. I don't go around dabbing oils that are wet with tane, but I imagine the burning /coughing would be much different. More of a burning, painful cough.

Though I think it goes to say - If your in pain, your not getting high correctly. :)
 

WaxTaster

Member
I don't think vector is better.its just that a lot of people are die hard vector fans. And its probably the most expensive butane out.
I do dislike repeating myself but I do it all the time anyways, I posted a few days ago that there is at least a 99% chance of vector and power coming from the SAME factory, power5x and power 7x are the SAME THING, and vector is simply a more expensive version, possibly with odorizers added, can't believe no one notices the smell from vector vs power.

And SRV, I still think the power is cheaper and better than vector, and customers don't usually lie about what they like better so they can keep getting the crappy stuff...
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
I do dislike repeating myself but I do it all the time anyways, I posted a few days ago that there is at least a 99% chance of vector and power coming from the SAME factory, power5x and power 7x are the SAME THING, and vector is simply a more expensive version, possibly with odorizers added, can't believe no one notices the smell from vector vs power.

And SRV, I still think the power is cheaper and better than vector, and customers don't usually lie about what they like better so they can keep getting the crappy stuff...
I'm starting to get closer to being on your page..

Sure enough, your argument about Korea exporting only one quality of butane - and the fact that both Vector and Power 5x cans are both labeled "Made In Korea".. Makes me believe what your saying to be true :lol:


I felt like I did notice a difference between the Vector and Power 5x. I feel like vector does smell different. As in worse.. different.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but like I said the Power 5x sap seems to be smoother on the exhale than any oil I've ever made with vector. Makes me wonder, even though I have seen the MSDS of Vector Quintuple refined Butane and didn't see anything other than the 'basic stuff'.

& just to add The materials for the power 5x run were in no way better than the materials for the average vector bho run (in my experiences). And again, the Power 5x BHO is likely the smoothest oil I've made (been using the same tek, for a while now. Only changed variable was brand of butane used).

All in all I think I dig this Power Butane enough to change my preference :)

verde i like the fact that you vac purge your oil a few times, that way you know its all thc and no butane. I posted a question earlier, dank said vector is better? i thought they were only 3x refined and the stuff you got was 5x refined
Thanks :) Yeah, I definitly try to go past the point where it doesn't react to the vacuum after a few minutes. I like to clean things as much as I can :).

Quintuple refined is the only thing i've seen vector butane labeled as, and that means '5 times refined'. :)
 

dankshizzle

Glassblowing Moderator
A lot of butanes come out of Korea. I wonder why. It's probably all basically the same just different labels. I've used power, fasfil, lucienna and vector. They all can make good sap if you do it right.
 

dankshizzle

Glassblowing Moderator
I had one can of fasfil left. So I filled my torch and ran a tube. This is made with trim I had laying around. A mix of incredible hulk and blue Hell trim.
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
I have and I haven't... i feel like it adds an extra un-necessary process.. never noticed too much of a difference. As dank says the tube/material gets super cold from the butane as it is.
 

WaxTaster

Member
do you all normally freeze your material before you blast it with the butane/alcohol?
Superchill the solvent always; superchill plant material if doing an alcohol extraction, or if working with fresh, undried material.

Cold solvents are more selective, freezing locks out a lot of water solubles, but not all.

If working with fresh material it MUST be frozen, when working with alcohol, EVERYTHING should be kept as cold as possible, done in a walk in freezer if possible...

Edit: If you freeze your already dried material pre-extraction you actually add more moisture to the mix which you don't really want, with exception of cold water extracts.
 

WaxTaster

Member
A lot of butanes come out of Korea. I wonder why. It's probably all basically the same just different labels. I've used power, fasfil, lucienna and vector. They all can make good sap if you do it right.
In both North and South Korea, butane is in the top 3 exports ;-)

Honestly though we could argue and speculate till the cows come home about which is better, but until we actually get to see that Power5x/7x MSDS it's just that, speculation. I'm stickin with my theory though... Don't need a power msds because it's already out there as something else... Food for thought.

In the end, go with what you like, and what isn't going to harm your end user :-)
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
I feel like chemical analysis of the various cans of consumer available butane should be available to the consumer. I would think it should be like nutrition facts, all ingredients listed.

But no that's not the case, because I haven't been able to find a power5/7x , or fasfil MSDS. Only speculations, as wax tester contended!
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
I feel like chemical analysis of the various cans of consumer available butane should be available to the consumer. I would think it should be like nutrition facts, all ingredients listed.

But no that's not the case, because I haven't been able to find a power5/7x , or fasfil MSDS. Only speculations, as wax tester contended!
A new brand just came out. Super cheap compared to power and vector. Anyone know anything about Spark 7x?

http://www.spark7x.com/
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
I'm starting to get closer to being on your page..

Sure enough, your argument about Korea exporting only one quality of butane - and the fact that both Vector and Power 5x cans are both labeled "Made In Korea".. Makes me believe what your saying to be true :lol:


I felt like I did notice a difference between the Vector and Power 5x. I feel like vector does smell different. As in worse.. different.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but like I said the Power 5x sap seems to be smoother on the exhale than any oil I've ever made with vector. Makes me wonder, even though I have seen the MSDS of Vector Quintuple refined Butane and didn't see anything other than the 'basic stuff'.

& just to add The materials for the power 5x run were in no way better than the materials for the average vector bho run (in my experiences). And again, the Power 5x BHO is likely the smoothest oil I've made (been using the same tek, for a while now. Only changed variable was brand of butane used).

All in all I think I dig this Power Butane enough to change my preference :)



Thanks :) Yeah, I definitly try to go past the point where it doesn't react to the vacuum after a few minutes. I like to clean things as much as I can :).

Quintuple refined is the only thing i've seen vector butane labeled as, and that means '5 times refined'. :)
Power seems to blast quicker, suggesting it has more propellant than vector. More propellant = more propane, less butane.
 
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