State Gun Ban proposals

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
lol, you made the rules sir. Again, the second ammendment is for protection from government. Every government ever in the history of mankind has fallen.
lol. nope.

the absolutist argument has been roundly rejected, otherwise you'd be allowed to own nuclear bombs and weapons of chemical warfare.

this isn't the age of cannon balls and muskets anymore, champ.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Your liberal bias aside, you really don't think that these go too far? Anything with a detachable magazine. That bans every handgun that isn't a revolver....
if they go too far, not much chance they will pass, is there?

i mean, ANALEXCESSGAY1 brought up some bill about cigarettes being somewhat banned here.*
 

budlover13

King Tut
lol. nope.

the absolutist argument has been roundly rejected, otherwise you'd be allowed to own nuclear bombs and weapons of chemical warfare.

this isn't the age of cannon balls and muskets anymore, champ.
Imo, NOBODY should own nukes or chemical/biological weapons. But if someone DOES, i'd like to have one too ;)
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
if they go too far, not much chance they will pass, is there?

i mean, ANALEXCESSGAY1 brought up some bill about cigarettes being somewhat banned here.*
I misread it. It is any shotgun with a detachable mag, every semi auto rifle etc.... You are probably right, though.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Imo, NOBODY should own nukes or chemical/biological weapons. But if someone DOES, i'd like to have one too ;)
well, they do own those weapons. and no, owning nukes is not consistent with the second amendment.

the SCOTUS has rejected the absolutist argument.
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
well, they do own those weapons. and no, owning nukes is not consistent with the second amendment.

the SCOTUS has rejected the absolutist argument.
I see your point, but it is really irrelevant, nobody wants citizens to have nukes. We are talking about common firearms.
 

budlover13

King Tut
well, they do own those weapons. and no, owning nukes is not consistent with the second amendment.

the SCOTUS has rejected the absolutist argument.
I could give two fucks about what SCOTUS says when it comes to defending my family. If a guy can walk up to my house with a fully-auto anything I want one to be able to effectively resist his assault. You sound like someone that would bring a knife to a gunfight with that logic.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I could give two fucks about what SCOTUS says when it comes to defending my family. If a guy can walk up to my house with a fully-auto anything I want one to be able to effectively resist his assault. You sound like someone that would bring a knife to a gunfight with that logic.
i'm more the type who would hear the gun fire and say, "hmmmm, probably would lower my life expectancy to enter that area".

no one is coming after you with fully-auto weapons, buddy. and even if they are, deadly projectiles don't discriminate.*
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I see your point, but it is really irrelevant, nobody wants citizens to have nukes. We are talking about common firearms.
some people do think they have the right to own nukes, so was just clearing that up.

those "common" firearms are really meant for taking out troops en masse. nothing else. they're military, not civilian weapons (not referring specifically to the lists you gave, but in general).
 

Trolling

New Member
Does anyone ever agree to disagree here, or do you just constantly troll each other lol? Should've only been one gun thread.


"Ban all guns!"

"Ban nothing!"

"Ok ban some guns!"


Pick one and stfu, you're not gonna prove any points to anyone here.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
what's so LOL?

were some of these high capacity weapons designed to kill as few people as slowly as possible, or is it the opposite?
High capacity magazines were designed so you didn't have to spend time changing out magazines and could fight for longer periods of time. Rarely does one bullet kill massive numbers of people, most of the time (like 99.9999999999999%) it takes at least one shot each to kill someone, but what would I know?

If magazine capacity were positively correlated to numbers of enemy killed, you can bet each soldier would have 100 round magazines. They don't though, because magazine capacity has no bearing on numbers of enemy killed whatsoever. Steady shooting, good aim and proper technique is far more important than number of rounds in the magazine. Full auto is NOT used to mow people down, full auto shoulder fired weapons are so inaccurate as to be nothing more than a giant waste of ammunition. Full auto is used as covering fire almost exclusively.

No mention of a 30 round mag fitting in a BDU pocket or being nice and stackable or a having a nice curve in it that doesn't dig into your body like a en bloc clip would. Doesn't make any difference anyway as there are over 1.8 Billion high capacity magazines out there that will never go away.
 

Canna Sylvan

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a colony of insects died when they harvested your fair trade, organic arugula. you monster.
What's with you and this "fair trade" and "organic" bullshit? Firstly I go for the best deal, secondly, organic is no different than hydro or other conventional methods. Organic has the side effect of not being very vegan friendly. You know, bone meal and blood, etc, and other slaughter products.

My land race afghani I grow in hydro tastes way better than any organic. No stupid earthy taste. You want to know why? I properly flush and I use exact measurenents. I know what's in my plant food. You don't. Your organic crap could contain unhealthy amounts of radon or fluoride. The stuff I use is lab grade and guaranteed.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
High capacity magazines were designed so you didn't have to spend time changing out magazines and could fight for longer periods of time.
you yourself talked about how having to reload a magazine is a mere inconvenience, maybe a second or so. the 13th bullet from loughner's high capacity magazine which killed a small girl should be protected because Dog forbid you have to be inconvenienced reloading while target shooting.

Doesn't make any difference anyway as there are over 1.8 Billion high capacity magazines out there that will never go away.
just like pot will never go away, even under strict prohibition. but under strict prohibition, prices inevitably rise, pricing out some of the skeevier members of society who want to get their hands on a high capacity magazine for nefarious reasons.

it's at least a deterrent.

in any case, you never answered the question: were military style assault weapons with high capacity magazines designed to kill less people at a slower pace, or were they designed to kill more people at a faster rate?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
What's with you and this "fair trade" and "organic" bullshit? Firstly I go for the best deal, secondly, organic is no different than hydro or other conventional methods. Organic has the side effect of not being very vegan friendly. You know, bone meal and blood, etc, and other slaughter products.

My land race afghani I grow in hydro tastes way better than any organic. No stupid earthy taste. You want to know why? I properly flush and I use exact measurenents. I know what's in my plant food. You don't. Your organic crap could contain unhealthy amounts of radon or fluoride. The stuff I use is lab grade and guaranteed.
when your vegetables get harvested, ecosystems are disturbed and living things die. other living things that depend on those living things die too.

why do you hate living things?
 
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