Strains that you would NOT recommend to a new grower???

NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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In the personal or related experience of forum members,
are there any strains that you consider more suitable for growers who have
already successfully completed a few crops???

I was reading that 'Blueberry is notoriously difficult to clone... (I think that's what I read - I'm looking for examples of 'not for the novice' strains, so the hypothetical example serves it's purpose, even if I am factually incorrect).

So, to summarise....
WHAT STRAINS WOULD YOU NOT RECOMMEND TO NEW GROWERS???
and WHY DO YOU CONSIDER THIS STRAIN TO BE 'DIFFICULT'???
 
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churchhaze

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For one, I'd recommend new growers avoid strains with high price tags. Nirvana strains, or similarly priced, are just fine.

The rest depends on whether it's indoor or outdoor, and then latitude. If you're in hawaii, for example, I'd recommend a sativa for growing outdoors, but if you're at 45 degrees north, I'd recommend hybrids leaning indica. I'd also recommend hybrids leaning indica to new indoor growers.

Another thing I recommend noobs not do is try to breed. Don't purposefully make your own seeds if you don't know what you're doing, it's a waste of time.

NorthofEngland said:
In the personal or related experience of forum members,
are there any strains that you consider more suitable for growers who have
already successfully completed a few crops???

I was reading that 'Blueberry is notoriously difficult to clone... (I think that's what I read - I'm looking for examples of 'not for the novice' strains, so the hypothetical example serves it's purpose, even if I am factually incorrect).

So, to summarise....
WHAT STRAINS WOULD YOU NOT RECOMMEND TO NEW GROWERS???
and WHY DO YOU CONSIDER THIS STRAIN TO BE 'DIFFICULT'???
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churchhaze

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I'd also advise against autoflowering strains until they've tried a few normal long night flowering strains.

Edit: I posted this before snaps posted. I wasn't intending to argue his post. lol.. Sorry about that.
 
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churchhaze

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This thread really brings me back to the late 90s.. lol.

The best strains for noobs..... Mazar and skunk #1 lol.
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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I'm talking about indoor grows.
I bought 9 cuttings that I have taken further generations of cutting off.
They were an unknown strain
now the sellers claims they're SKUNK#1.

I don't give that much credence to this strain identification.
TBH I think he gave them the first name that came to mind
after I kept trying to find out.
 
Wavels

Wavels

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Strains that are predominately sativa can be tricky indoors because they take soo long to finish correctly. Patience is in order, which new growers almost always lack.
DJ Shorts Blueberry and Flo are quite finicky and tend to be slow to display robust veg growth, they require patience and fortitude in my experience. But they reward more effort with delicious buds.

The two best strains I would advise new growers to start with are Skunk #1 and Northern Lights.

I agree with churchhaze regarding Nirvana seeds.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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i agree with wavels.. i'd avoid anything heavy on the sativa side of things, like hazes or land race sativas, as they tend to be finicky feeders, and cant take upwards of 16 weeks or so of flowering time, which is usually much longer then a lot of newb's can even keep a plant alive, much less flowering..

i'd say some of the older proven strains, like northern lights, skunk, white widow, or ak47 if you're looking for something more on the sativa side of things for a grow or two till you get comfy with growing, then the skies the limit.
 
kinddiesel

kinddiesel

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any thing haze. I don't grow it. I hate it . lemon haze always seems like you have to flower it to hot to get any yields. and have to hit it well beyond what you should with nutrients. other then that . I have grown a lot other strands . only bitch I ever had were these haze plants. grow way to tall. make you bend and pull them down and take up the entire light , the smoke was nothing special . my grow room is steady 85. any haze I have done always wanted it hotter to get it to get any yield. even with co2. I had the room over 95 for a few weeks and it finally started to get large. leaving chances or aire buds . and lower thc potency .
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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A new grower might not like some of the clone only OG cuts that circulate the northern california area. for me there tough to root, the fire go cut took a lot of cal mag in my peat based soils medium. The original OG cut is super touchy with nutrients, but is the best smoke the world has to offer. And i don't think a new grower would be happy with the yields. The easiest one (although this is not the subject matter) is the tahoe OG. pretty good yields and seemed pretty forgiving like a sour diesel is. All in all i would say every one should be coming here getting these cuts although might be a little difficult at first, once learned you won't grow any other medicine. its that good.
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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kinddiesel said:
any thing haze. I don't grow it. I hate it . lemon haze always seems like you have to flower it to hot to get any yields. and have to hit it well beyond what you should with nutrients. other then that . I have grown a lot other strands . only bitch I ever had were these haze plants. grow way to tall. make you bend and pull them down and take up the entire light , the smoke was nothing special . my grow room is steady 85. any haze I have done always wanted it hotter to get it to get any yield. even with co2. I had the room over 95 for a few weeks and it finally started to get large. leaving chances or aire buds . and lower thc potency .
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This is the 3rd of 4th thread where I have read you advocate temperatures far higher than any of the published growers (Ed Rosenthal, Mel Frank, Cervantes, Greg Green....) advise for the growing of marijuana.
Granted that different strains (even individual plants) can be idiosyncratic.
But 'keeping the room at a steady 85*' when the acknowledged experts tend to agree on 85* as the upper limit for acceptable temperature
and then claiming "I had the room above 95* for weeks"
can only mean that you need your hygrometers calibrated.

Temperatures kept consistently above 95* would kill the vast majority of marijuana plants.
and a constant 85*isn't healthy.

If you disagree with me please post the writing of an acknowledged expert who advocates growing temperatures that are similar to your own.
Otherwise your words are merely the uncorroborated sentiments of some bloke on the internet.
Some bloke who repeatedly claims to grow plants in temperatures a good 10* higher than virtually any one else considers realistic.
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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a mongo frog said:
A new grower might not like some of the clone only OG cuts that circulate the northern california area. for me there tough to root, the fire go cut took a lot of cal mag in my peat based soils medium. The original OG cut is super touchy with nutrients, but is the best smoke the world has to offer. And i don't think a new grower would be happy with the yields. The easiest one (although this is not the subject matter) is the tahoe OG. pretty good yields and seemed pretty forgiving like a sour diesel is. All in all i would say every one should be coming here getting these cuts although might be a little difficult at first, once learned you won't grow any other medicine. its that good.
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Don't the cutting come already rooted?

Have you seen the results of a test on these clone only NorCal superstrains???
THC, CBD, CBN, CND, HIV, IRA, ETC....
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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NorthofEngland said:
Don't the cutting come already rooted?

Have you seen the results of a test on these clone only NorCal superstrains???
THC, CBD, CBN, CND, HIV, IRA, ETC....
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oh yea. when u buy from medical dispensery they come rooted. and private venders they come rooted. i meant me cloning. i found them harder to root. u can find the results your looking for online. weed maps any place your looking to get them.IMG_0037.jpgIMG_0037.jpgIMG_0131.jpgIMG_0130.jpg
here is some I've done.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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NorthofEngland said:
This is the 3rd of 4th thread where I have read you advocate temperatures far higher than any of the published growers (Ed Rosenthal, Mel Frank, Cervantes, Greg Green....) advise for the growing of marijuana.
Granted that different strains (even individual plants) can be idiosyncratic.
But 'keeping the room at a steady 85*' when the acknowledged experts tend to agree on 85* as the upper limit for acceptable temperature
and then claiming "I had the room above 95* for weeks"
can only mean that you need your hygrometers calibrated.

Temperatures kept consistently above 95* would kill the vast majority of marijuana plants.
and a constant 85*isn't healthy.

If you disagree with me please post the writing of an acknowledged expert who advocates growing temperatures that are similar to your own.
Otherwise your words are merely the uncorroborated sentiments of some bloke on the internet.
Some bloke who repeatedly claims to grow plants in temperatures a good 10* higher than virtually any one else considers realistic.
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well a lot of growers use co2 in their rooms and 80-85 is the norm. some will tell u that thats even too low.
 
JohnnySocko

JohnnySocko

Active Member
NorthofEngland said:
This is the 3rd of 4th thread where I have read you advocate temperatures far higher than any of the published growers (Ed Rosenthal, Mel Frank, Cervantes, Greg Green....) advise for the growing of marijuana.
Granted that different strains (even individual plants) can be idiosyncratic.
But 'keeping the room at a steady 85*' when the acknowledged experts tend to agree on 85* as the upper limit for acceptable temperature
and then claiming "I had the room above 95* for weeks"
can only mean that you need your hygrometers calibrated.

Temperatures kept consistently above 95* would kill the vast majority of marijuana plants.
and a constant 85*isn't healthy.

If you disagree with me please post the writing of an acknowledged expert who advocates growing temperatures that are similar to your own.
Otherwise your words are merely the uncorroborated sentiments of some bloke on the internet.
Some bloke who repeatedly claims to grow plants in temperatures a good 10* higher than virtually any one else considers realistic.
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I seriously doubt weed is stressed at 85F per se ...I mean would that not limit its outdoor growing tolerance to the Yukon and environs further north?
just sayin its more to than a simple linear temperature limit/tolerance
 
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brimck325

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agreed jonny. as stated, sativa's n hazes but what about the "breeders".....newbs grow GH, barney, DP.....and set their standard by these mostly trash breeders strains. i really don't like him but subfool does have good beginner strains in my POV. mostly non temperamental, good flavor and mediocre to good potency. nothing spectacular, but a good starting point.
 
jtdubz

jtdubz

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Wavels said:
Strains that are predominately sativa can be tricky indoors because they take soo long to finish correctly. Patience is in order, which new growers almost always lack.
DJ Shorts Blueberry and Flo are quite finicky and tend to be slow to display robust veg growth, they require patience and fortitude in my experience. But they reward more effort with delicious buds.

The two best strains I would advise new growers to start with are Skunk #1 and Northern Lights.

I agree with churchhaze regarding Nirvana seeds.
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I have BB x NL seeds from world of seeds and its my first grow. Im indoors 4x4x7 1000w lighting 6 4 gal pots. And they just sprouted today :)

Do you think this strain will be good for my first grow?
 
JohnnySocko

JohnnySocko

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back to the original OP's question...
my limited experience with strains is with Female Seeds, G13 Labs, Mandala & Humbolt seeds....
out of those only Purple Haze seemed overtly pussified ...the rest not a single hermie despite my attempts to screw it up...

in fact Skunk was incredibly robust and resistant to fuck ups
 
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