Stud : Indica or Sativa..?

I'm not sure if I'm in the correct forum, but I'm planning on trying to cross a few of my plants in the future & want some seeds and was wondering is it important that any male pollen I collect should be from an indica dom. or a sativa and if so, what would be the difference if I say crossed a Aurora Indica fem to a Malawi Gold male or vice-versa?.
Any meaningful input would be appreciated.
Thank you.

Orlando737 said:

I'm not sure if I'm in the correct forum, but I'm planning on trying to cross a few of my plants in the future & want some seeds and was wondering is it important that any male pollen I collect should be from an indica dom. or a sativa and if so, what would be the difference if I say crossed a Aurora Indica fem to a Malawi Gold male or vice-versa?.
Any meaningful input would be appreciated.
Thank you.

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I think you should do some reading on breeding !

Yep, it's important. It depends on what characteristcs you want in your weed. Dr. Who nailed it.

Dr. Who said:

I think you should do some reading on breeding !

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I have, but thanks anyway.

Orlando737 said:

I have, but thanks anyway.

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Then why are you on here asking questions? You must not have done a lot of research if you come to the forums for a simple question like this one.

LOL! ^^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^^

I could answer but, the posting has limits and I don't feel like writing 3 PAGES of explanation in various ways to get you to understand...

Advise: Learn what big strong HEALTHY males plants look like.....you only want those...

If you don't understand the difference between the 2 and exactly what that is and what can carry over.....You need to keep reading!

Cyrus420 said:

Then why are you on here asking questions? You must not have done a lot of research if you come to the forums for a simple question like this one.

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I'm on here nearly every night my friend, sometimes till dawn, as I have sleeping problems, I tend to read as much and as learn as much as I can, however I couldn't find anything.
I've learned a lot of things from this site, before I even germed my 1st bean, so not the type of person that would want someone to mammy me throughout an entire grow.
I thought I'd ask as I thought someone might tell me which thread or forum to find what I wanted to know, as I've seen some of the dismissive and patronising replies posted on here & was reluctant to be made a subject of ridicule.
Wasn't asking for 3 sides of A4, hence the polite tone of my OP .
Like I've said earlier, sorry for your valuable time I've seem to have wasted.

Dr. Who said:

LOL! ^^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^^

I could answer but, the posting has limits and I don't feel like writing 3 PAGES of explanation in various ways to get you to understand...

Advise: Learn what big strong HEALTHY males plants look like.....you only want those...

If you don't understand the difference between the 2 and exactly what that is and what can carry over.....You need to keep reading!

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Dr. Who said:

LOL! ^^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^^

I could answer but, the posting has limits and I don't feel like writing 3 PAGES of explanation in various ways to get you to understand...

Advise: Learn what big strong HEALTHY males plants look like.....you only want those...

If you don't understand the difference between the 2 and exactly what that is and what can carry over.....You need to keep reading!

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I really used to enjoy reading your posts, Doctor.

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Orlando737 said:

I'm on here nearly every night my friend, sometimes till dawn, as I have sleeping problems, I tend to read as much and as learn as much as I can, however I couldn't find anything.
I've learned a lot of things from this site, before I even germed my 1st bean, so not the type of person that would want someone to mammy me throughout an entire grow.
I thought I'd ask as I thought someone might tell me which thread or forum to find what I wanted to know, as I've seen some of the dismissive and patronising replies posted on here & was reluctant to be made a subject of ridicule.
Wasn't asking for 3 sides of A4, hence the polite tone of my OP .
Like I've said earlier, sorry for your valuable time I've seem to have wasted.

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Alright, that is a fair explanation.

Here you go: http://www.growweedeasy.com/advanced-breeding-techniques

Give this a read. While not all the information on Growweedeasy is scientifically accurate it's a good base line for nearly every question you might have. I use it as a reference then explore other related topics after reading up on what it has to say.

Cyrus420 said:

Alright, that is a fair explanation.

Here you go: http://www.growweedeasy.com/advanced-breeding-techniques

Give this a read. While not all the information on Growweedeasy is scientifically accurate it's a good base line for nearly every question you might have. I use it as a reference then explore other related topics after reading up on what it has to say.

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Thank you for that my friend, much appreciated.

Orlando737 said:

I'm not sure if I'm in the correct forum, but I'm planning on trying to cross a few of my plants in the future & want some seeds and was wondering is it important that any male pollen I collect should be from an indica dom. or a sativa and if so, what would be the difference if I say crossed a Aurora Indica fem to a Malawi Gold male or vice-versa?.
Any meaningful input would be appreciated.
Thank you.

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In the advanced cultivation forum there's a sub-forum called breeders paradise, may be worth looking at if you haven't yet.

KryptoBud said:

In the advanced cultivation forum there's a sub-forum called breeders paradise, may be worth looking at if you haven't yet.

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Cheers mate, I'll check that out.

Orlando737 said:

I really used to enjoy reading your posts, Doctor.

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Dude relax. Don't think he meant any real bad from it. That's pretty polite around these forums.

Wait till you see some things I say after a beer or two haha.



That's growweedeasy site is great! Check it out as Orlando mentioned, quite accurate to some of the bs you get on here.

In an effort give an answer to the quesiton...
Malawi Gold is typically labeled as pure Sativa and Aurora Indica is an indica dominate hybrid. The first generation (F1) seeds would more than likely be closer to a 50 indica /50 sativa hybrid or it might have two or more phenotypes that happen to be 40 indica / 60 sativa, or 60 indica / 40 sativa. The genetics of the parent plants have a role in the dominate traits.

From here on out breeding gets more technical with things like stabilizing, back crossing and newer generations. Breeders can work with one cross for years before they get it to where they want the strain.

Rayne said:

In an effort give an answer to the quesiton...
Malawi Gold is typically labeled as pure Sativa and Aurora Indica is an indica dominate hybrid. The first generation (F1) seeds would more than likely be closer to a 50 indica /50 sativa hybrid or it might have two or more phenotypes that happen to be 40 indica / 60 sativa, or 60 indica / 40 sativa. The genetics of the parent plants have a role in the dominate traits.

From here on out breeding gets more technical with things like stabilizing, back crossing and newer generations. Breeders can work with one cross for years before they get it to where they want the strain.

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I much appreciate your input.
I had in mind crossing a Malawi Gold x Ketama Xaoen, Ketama Xaoen x Hash Bomb and a Hash Bomb x KC Brains Mindbender, keep the ones with the desirable traits for clones/seeds.
I only have a 4x5 x 6 grow tent & grow for medical reasons & would like plants that suit my particular conditions, rather than read the breeders hype, get excited and buy the beans, only to find they are crap.
Sure a lot on here have found that out themselves !.
Thank you.

kiwipaulie said:

Dude relax. Don't think he meant any real bad from it. That's pretty polite around these forums.

Wait till you see some things I say after a beer or two haha.



That's growweedeasy site is great! Check it out as Orlando mentioned, quite accurate to some of the bs you get on here.

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Yeah, I know. On reflection I think I was a bit ungracious.. If I've offended anyone, I apologise.

Orlando737 said:

Yeah, I know. On reflection I think I was a bit ungracious.. If I've offended anyone, I apologise.

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LEAVE AND NEVER RETURN!

Orlando737 said:

I much appreciate your input.
I had in mind crossing a Malawi Gold x Ketama Xaoen, Ketama Xaoen x Hash Bomb and a Hash Bomb x KC Brains Mindbender, keep the ones with the desirable traits for clones/seeds.
I only have a 4x5 x 6 grow tent & grow for medical reasons & would like plants that suit my particular conditions, rather than read the breeders hype, get excited and buy the beans, only to find they are crap.
Sure a lot on here have found that out themselves !.
Thank you.

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No insult intended in my last dude! I might suggest Gregg Green's Breeders Bible as a starting place...

https://www.amazon.com/Cannabis-Breeders-Bible-Definitive-Marijuana/dp/1931160279/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467045893&sr=8-2&keywords=books+by+greg+green

Interesting X choices......The idea of medical breeding would be to focus on strains that have what your looking for in them. I'm sure some are better at one then another and you may want to find a happy equilibrium between the things you want in one plant , right?

You might start by working one trait out and then the other. You could then attempt to bring those traits together by breeding the others results. This will be a long term commitment....maybe as long as 5 or more years to the end result of a combination plant result.....Could even run longer. The learning will be fun and even with your limited work space, you can do what you set out to!

I see questions about breeding by many NOT looking to do what you intend - "A good reason to attempt it"...
I wince at those as many will just cross things willy nilly and get crappy genetic results - hand them out to friends and begin a crappy genetic line that's unstable and can spread those shitty gene's, even unintentionally.

You sir, have a valid reason and sounds like your working to learn how properly. I didn't see that in your first question.
Take a look at Mendel and get familiar with his results in how traits pass along. You should begin to be able to see what your looking for as far as moving traits along. The time comes in popping and growing to discover what traits you got, finding "the one" and backing that to stabilize. Then you repeat with the others to bring out and stabilize that....Next is your last step goal of crossing those to get the "mix" trait your looking for.

The more you can pop and run to find the "one".....The faster your quest shall succeed. There will be failures and success's in each crossing. Be patient!

Sorry to "brush" you off like that. I would have been more inclined to a real answer if I knew why then.....I have now.
Drop a line if you like....I'll be away the 28th to the 5th - State Trap shooting Championships 28th - 3rd and family time over the 4+5th

Doc

Orlando737 said:

Yeah, I know. On reflection I think I was a bit ungracious.. If I've offended anyone, I apologise.

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You didn't! Sometimes I need to be more tolerant...