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Super Strong Cannabutter Recipe?

Discussion in 'Cooking With Cannabis' started by justgrowit, Oct 7, 2011.

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    greenghost420

    greenghost420 Well-Known Member

    why not heat in the butter to 252 for the 30 minutes and be done? would that not be as efficient as 230 for 90 min? that chart only goes to 51 minutes so it seems lower than 230 would work for 90 minutes...
     
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    BluJayz

    BluJayz Well-Known Member

    That's a different one then I was thinking but that's interesting.

    The pictures don't show any plant matter but I assume its the same when making first level oil?

    Plant>Oil>hot bath @250F until bubbles stop? That would explain the bubbles in my crock pot coconut oil after decarbing...
     
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    greenghost420

    greenghost420 Well-Known Member

    that chart is based on a hexane extract also keep that in mind...
     
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    poplars

    poplars Well-Known Member


    keep it in mind, but realize that the research has been done and that's not a big enough variable to make a huge difference, the graph is still useable.

    and based on the test results of my capsules, I followed the 250 curve to a T, and it was exactly right, I had pretty much 100% activation (the test couldn't find any THCa....) or CBN... so idk, I follow what works, and this has proven itself to me to work.
     
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    greenghost420

    greenghost420 Well-Known Member

    how do you decarb?
     
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    poplars

    poplars Well-Known Member


    I follow skunkpharm research's decarboxylization guide, but I do it in an oven at 250 degrees using a laser thermometer to know precisely when to start the timer when the oil hits 250F.

    here's a digital copy of my lab results for the coconut oil capsules
    [​IMG]
     
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    greenghost420

    greenghost420 Well-Known Member

    nice! i was curious if you decarbed in the butter or in the oven.those caps look good!
     
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    poplars

    poplars Well-Known Member


    I decarbed IN the oil... you can do it using an oil bath at 250, or an oven at 250, or whatever other vessel you can think of to translate 250F efficiently (a hot plate perhaps...)
     
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    greenghost420

    greenghost420 Well-Known Member

    decarbing in the butter seems less work, doing everything at once.
     
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    BeastGrow

    BeastGrow Well-Known Member

    once the oil hits 250 degrees, how long do you decarb for?
     
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    BeastGrow

    BeastGrow Well-Known Member

    250 degrees is activation peak for cooking? decarbing? both?
     
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    stawawager

    stawawager Active Member

    Hi, what do you think of 3/4 oz frosty bud to 1 lb butter? Thanks.
     
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    cannetix Inc

    cannetix Inc Well-Known Member

    Of course its possible, that's very basic chemistry. Overloaded refers to saturated. Any solvent (in this case, fat) has a limit to how much of a solute (in this case THC/CBD/etc.) it can dissolve before it becomes saturated. When a solvent is saturated it cannot dissolve any more solute. You can try to “supersaturate” a solution but the excess solute will precipitate out. In this case, that might not be such a bad thing as it would still be present, just separated.

    https://chem.libretexts.org/LibreTexts/Heartland_Community_College/HCC:_Chem_161/12:_Solutions/12.3:_Solubility_Limit_and_Saturation
     
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    cannetix Inc

    cannetix Inc Well-Known Member

    Because butter is only about 80% fat and nearly 20% water, each time you cook the butter you are reducing its water content. Because the solubility of THC & CBD is very low in water compared to fat, you are in effect increasing potency by reducing water volume alone. 100Ml of butter that is 80% (80ml) fat might absorb around 8 grams of pure THC based on some rough approximations, but the same 100Ml if 100% fat could absorb approximately 10 grams of pure THC.

    While I believe the solubility of THC is higher in fat than alcohol (someone may be able to correct me on this), I like to add a tbsp of rum or whiskey to my butter, mostly because it adds a whole new layer of taste to baked edibles. It may or may not increase potency, but I don't believe it does.
     
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    stawawager

    stawawager Active Member

    Great link! I've been really curious about max sat. I'd hate to saturated beyond its capacity.
    I use 1lb unsalted butter to 3/4 oz. of bud. Most butter makers recommend 1lb to 1oz. What is your preference?
     
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    stawawager

    stawawager Active Member

    Rum or whiskey, that's a good idea. Maybe a little Kahlua?
     
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    stawawager

    stawawager Active Member

    Is this why we clarify it first? To get rid of water content you have to boil it correct? But we're not supposed to boil it right?
     
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    Cookie-Monster

    Cookie-Monster Member

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    stawawager

    stawawager Active Member

    That's a big extra step. Just go straight into the butter with the D carb, simmer then strain.

    Or like I do, put the ground Decarb in simmering water, then add butter and then strain flushing lump with hot water. Cool / separate.

    I'm noticing that a lot of people don't boil in water first, I thought that was an necessary step?
     
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    Cookie-Monster

    Cookie-Monster Member

    I just have this silly idea that it tastes cleaner. plus straining butter with a coffee filter takes a lot of time. then again, cheese cloth works too lol
     
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