Superdelegates in the Democratic Party (Primary) should be eliminated

Superdelegates in the Democratic Party (Primary) should be eliminated

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SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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londonfog said:
My wife and daughter were and are big supporter of Bernie and at the end of the day they realized if Bernard did not make it out of the primary then they would and should vote for the Dem candidate that did. They grown and make decisions like an adult. Unlike the Bernie Bitches..opp sorry Bernie Babies, who thought it best to see Trump in office because their man did not win.
Bernie Babies are pretty stupid like that. Some Bernie fucks did not even vote for Bernie in the primary. Now if that is not the dumbest shit I heard in the election cycle what is ? You scream for a year about your man and when it comes time to vote for him ..you don't. STUCK ON MOTHERFUCKING STUPID @st0wandgrow @schuylaar :dunce:.

So yes BERNIE BABIES need not vote with Dems. We will take all other GROWN Bernie supporters, not these Bernie Babies BITCHES.

Now can can talk about Blacks being free to name their children names they so chose or do you want to be a pussy bitch and avoid the conversation because it would make your trick @schuylaar look like the fool she is ?
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They're freaks man...if only you knew.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's exactly what is implied by your claim; that black voters were not informed enough to be able to discern propaganda from reality. For some reason this propaganda only worked on black voters because they didn't turn out in high enough numbers to get her elected..
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Buck said microtargeted. What Berners claim when they say "rigged" is a that a nationwide campaign of propaganda or media bias to everybody "stole" the election.

I don't know anything about Buck's claim, maybe he's being ironic. From what you said, you are pretty slow on the uptake. Recall that Bernie lost because Clinton mopped the floor with him in the south and elsewhere by getting 75% of the Black vote. From what you said, you can't tell the difference between microtargeted and the idiotic claim made by your kind that black people were more susceptible than white people to nation-wide media bias. Also your kind make other idiotic claims that black people are more susceptible to other BS such as a single leaked debate question or the newest trigger for you guys regarding Clinton's campaign taking control of the DNC during the primary season.
 
Padawanbater2

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Low black voter turnout was one of the main reasons clinton lost the election

"The biggest reason given by non-voters for staying home was that they didn’t like the candidates.2 Clinton and Trump both had favorable ratings in the low 30s among registered voters who didn’t cast a ballot — both had ratings in the low 40s among those who did vote. That’s a pretty sizable difference. So why was Clinton hurt more by non-voters? Trump was able to win, in large part, because voters who disliked both candidates favored him in big numbers, according to the exit polls. Clinton, apparently, couldn’t get those who disliked both candidates — and who may have been more favorably disposed to her candidacy — to turn out and vote.

The second pattern that jumps out in the SurveyMonkey data: Non-white and Hispanic Americans were more likely to stay home than white voters.



Of all voters who cast a ballot in the general election, 25 percent were black, Hispanic, Asian, or a member of another minority group. But those voters were 42 percent of those who didn’t vote. Drilling down a little further, black voters made up 11 percent of voters who cast a ballot and 19 percent who didn’t. This disparity really hurt Clinton because black voters (by 82 percentage points) and Hispanic voters (by 40 percentage points) overwhelmingly favored her, while white voters went for Trump by a 16-point margin in the SurveyMonkey poll.

The turnout rate for black voters was substantially higher in 2012, the last time Barack Obama was on the ballot. According to the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey,3 black Americans made up 13 percent of voters and only 9 percent of registered non-voters in 2012. In other words, black voters actually made up a larger percentage of voters who cast a ballot than those who didn’t in 2012, which is the opposite of what occurred last year. Whites, on the other hand, made up about the same percentage of registered voters who cast a ballot (74 percent) and those who didn’t (73 percent). The higher number of black non-voters in 2016 probably had a big impact."
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/registered-voters-who-stayed-home-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/
538
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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"(CNN)Hillary Clinton just couldn't hold onto the Obama coalition. And that proved to be a large part of her undoing.

African-American, Latino and younger voters failed to show up at the polls in sufficient numbers Tuesday to propel Clinton into the White House."

CNN
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Low black voter turnout was one of the main reasons clinton lost the election

"The biggest reason given by non-voters for staying home was that they didn’t like the candidates.2 Clinton and Trump both had favorable ratings in the low 30s among registered voters who didn’t cast a ballot — both had ratings in the low 40s among those who did vote. That’s a pretty sizable difference. So why was Clinton hurt more by non-voters? Trump was able to win, in large part, because voters who disliked both candidates favored him in big numbers, according to the exit polls. Clinton, apparently, couldn’t get those who disliked both candidates — and who may have been more favorably disposed to her candidacy — to turn out and vote.

The second pattern that jumps out in the SurveyMonkey data: Non-white and Hispanic Americans were more likely to stay home than white voters.



Of all voters who cast a ballot in the general election, 25 percent were black, Hispanic, Asian, or a member of another minority group. But those voters were 42 percent of those who didn’t vote. Drilling down a little further, black voters made up 11 percent of voters who cast a ballot and 19 percent who didn’t. This disparity really hurt Clinton because black voters (by 82 percentage points) and Hispanic voters (by 40 percentage points) overwhelmingly favored her, while white voters went for Trump by a 16-point margin in the SurveyMonkey poll.

The turnout rate for black voters was substantially higher in 2012, the last time Barack Obama was on the ballot. According to the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey,3 black Americans made up 13 percent of voters and only 9 percent of registered non-voters in 2012. In other words, black voters actually made up a larger percentage of voters who cast a ballot than those who didn’t in 2012, which is the opposite of what occurred last year. Whites, on the other hand, made up about the same percentage of registered voters who cast a ballot (74 percent) and those who didn’t (73 percent). The higher number of black non-voters in 2016 probably had a big impact."
538
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Black voter turnout was not low by recent historical standards. You cherry pick data that contains unusually high black voter turnout. Just like a Climate change denier who talks about the earth cooling by using the same false debate tactic. You are such a sleaze.
 
Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
What a sleazy argument you make. By recent historical standards, the turnout for Clinton was good among black voters. You are cherry picking data in the same manner a sleazy climate science denier does.
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"(CNN)African-American, Latino and younger voters failed to show up at the polls in sufficient numbers Tuesday to propel Clinton into the White House."

I didn't make the argument, CNN did
 
travisw

travisw

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Padawanbater2 said:
"(CNN)African-American, Latino and younger voters failed to show up at the polls in sufficient numbers Tuesday to propel Clinton into the White House."

I didn't make the argument, CNN did
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Wait a second. Weren't you guys shitting on CNN, like yesterday?

Padawanbater2 said:
MSNBC holds a Democratic establishment party bias, FOX holds a Republican establishment party bias, CNN holds a neutrality bias. On the issue of Climate change, MSNBC will likely largely tell you the truth; that it's happening and it's man made. Fox will undoubtedly tell you the opposite, sometimes that it isn't happening at all, but if it is, it's not man made, but if it is, there's nothing we can do about it anyway. CNN decides to try to play the middle ground on a subject with overwhelming scientific support pointing to one side. They try to pretend as if they're just reporting the facts, and hey, you decide! In order to not seem biased one way or the other, even in regards to something like climate change, they are forced to produce abominations like this and call them "debates";


Not to mention the funding, not even just with CNN, this applies to all mainstream media outlets. They're funded by advertisers. If their advertisers don't like what they're reporting on, they will choose not to fund them. Afterall, let's be clear, advertisers fund mainstream media organizations so their ads are seen by a lot of people, so they make more money selling their product. This causes a fundamental conflict of interest and introduces an insurmountable level of distrust from the consumer to the ad, the product, and the company that sells it. If the board of Exxon doesn't like it when negative news reports about oil spills or energy crisis' take place, they could threaten to cut advertisement funding, that changes the narrative from investigative journalism to pundit commentary.

The only "combative" journalists these days are members of independent organizations
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ttystikk said:
Right. Because you get all yours from Fix Spews and CNN.
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Yep, you sure as fuck were.

Do you guys even believe your own bullshit?

 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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londonfog said:
My wife and daughter were and are big supporter of Bernie and at the end of the day they realized if Bernard did not make it out of the primary then they would and should vote for the Dem candidate that did. They grown and make decisions like an adult. Unlike the Bernie Bitches..opp sorry Bernie Babies, who thought it best to see Trump in office because their man did not win.
Bernie Babies are pretty stupid like that. Some Bernie fucks did not even vote for Bernie in the primary. Now if that is not the dumbest shit I heard in the election cycle what is ? You scream for a year about your man and when it comes time to vote for him ..you don't. STUCK ON MOTHERFUCKING STUPID @st0wandgrow @schuylaar :dunce:.

So yes BERNIE BABIES need not vote with Dems. We will take all other GROWN Bernie supporters, not these Bernie Babies BITCHES.

Now can can talk about Blacks being free to name their children names they so chose or do you want to be a pussy bitch and avoid the conversation because it would make your trick @schuylaar look like the fool she is ?
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It's been said a thousand times here that more Bernie supporters voted for Clinton in 2016 than Clinton supporters did for Obama in 2008.

Besides, you're a Republican; why are you crying at all? Buyer's remorse?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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travisw said:
Wait a second. Weren't you guys shitting on CNN, like yesterday?





Yep, you sure as fuck were.

Do you guys even believe your own bullshit?

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Try to think of us as individuals, because we are.

I shit on CNN because I have seen them refuse to root newsworthy events, among other offenses.

That doesn't make everything else they report wrong, just needing additional corroboration.

I know that's a tough concept for simple minds, I'll understand if you and the rest of the Clinton worshippers don't get it.
 
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