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Supreme Court to confront 14th Amendment disqualification — and not just Trump’s
Former President Trump isn’t the only public official whose disqualification under the 14th Amendment’s insurrection ban has landed at the Supreme Court.

Just days after the justices heard oral arguments in Trump’s historic case Thursday, they are scheduled this week to consider taking up another official’s disqualification: a New Mexico county commissioner who participated in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.

Before the Trump challenges gained steam, a state judge booted from office Couy Griffin, who had been found guilty of entering a restricted area during the riot.

Griffin, the founder of Cowboys for Trump, is now urging the justices to hear his appeal, even as they begin writing their opinion in Trump’s case. Griffin’s petition is scheduled to be discussed at the justices’ closed-door conference Friday.

“At this point about everything happening with Trump legally at the top is happening to me here at the bottom. Many things are in tandem. And most greatly compliment each other,” Griffin wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter, shortly after Thursday’s arguments in Trump’s case, which was born out of a challenge in Colorado.

Originally designed to keep ex-Confederates from returning to power, the Civil War-era provision bars people who took an oath to support the Constitution and then engaged in insurrection from returning to office.

After falling dormant for decades, several public officials — though none more than Trump — began facing efforts after the Capitol attack to block them from office under the 14th Amendment’s insurrection clause.

Most have been unsuccessful. A group of voters challenged Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)’s 2022 House candidacy, ending with the Georgia Supreme Court declining to review a decision tossing the case.

One advocacy group mounted a challenge to Arizona Republican Reps. Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs’s 2022 candidacies, but a judge tossed the case. Another man’s challenge to Rep. Scott Perry’s (R-Pa.) 2024 candidacy is ongoing.

Trump, meanwhile, has faced dozens of lawsuits. Only two states — Colorado and Maine — kicked Trump off their Republican primary ballots, but even those decisions haven’t yet taken effect. Both are on hold pending the Supreme Court’s ruling.

Griffin, on the other hand, was already booted from office. In response to a challenge from three New Mexico voters, filed one day before Griffin was found guilty in his Jan. 6 criminal case, a judge disqualified him in September 2022.


The justices must now confront how to juggle the new case as they begin working on their potentially landmark opinion concerning Trump’s eligibility.

“[N]one of the trial court’s findings are sufficient to conclude that Mr. Griffin somehow engaged in ‘insurrection’ against the United States,” Griffin’s attorneys wrote in their appeal to the Supreme Court.

“At best, the trial court’s findings were sufficient to conclude that Mr. Griffin engaged in a riot intended to create a disturbance or a civil commotion.”


Notably, the Supreme Court during last week’s arguments suggested an offramp to keep Trump on the ballot that could leave open whether Griffin’s disqualification should stand.

Several justices suggested ruling that a singular state has no authority to disqualify candidates for president — or perhaps any federal office — under the 14th Amendment, which wouldn’t require the high court to opine on whether Jan. 6 was an insurrection.

Although that resolution would doom the challenges to Trump’s eligibility, it would leave open the question of whether states can use the 14th Amendment to disqualify state-level officials. Some justices seemed to make that distinction during the recent arguments, even as Trump’s lawyer asserted that those disqualifications, too, are invalid.

“Can states enforce the insurrection clause against their own officeholders, or can they enforce it against federal officials, or can they enforce it against the president? Those are all three different questions in my mind,” said Justice Sonia Sotomayor.

Sotomayor told Trump’s attorney at another point, “There’s a whole lot of examples of states relying on Section 3 to disqualify insurrectionists for state offices, and you’re basically telling us that you want us to go two steps further. You want to — maybe three.”

Although Griffin appealed his disqualification to the Supreme Court well before Trump did, Griffin’s petition has proceeded at a slower pace, remaining pending for nearly a year. The justices are scheduled to discuss whether to take up Griffin’s appeal at their closed-door conference Friday.

The justices could delay deciding whether to hear the case until after handing down the opinion on Trump’s disqualification, which could be just weeks away given that the court expedited the former president’s case.

But the parties on both sides in Griffin’s disqualification say the Supreme Court should move ahead now.

Beyond the overlapping issues, the parties have also sparred over a matter not at issue in Trump’s case: whether the Supreme Court has jurisdiction in the first place to review Griffin’s disqualification, given the posture of his case.

The plaintiffs, whose counsel of record also represents E. Jean Carroll in her sexual assault lawsuit against Trump, told the justices they have no power to hear the case. And even if they did, Griffin was correctly disqualified, they asserted.

“In sum, not only does this Court lack jurisdiction over the case, and not only does Petitioner fail to satisfy any of the standard criteria for certiorari, but the contentions that he advances are all meritless,” the plaintiffs’ attorneys wrote in court papers.
 

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Capitalist union busters sense a unique opportunity to get a favorable ruling on their latest bid to remove government from their drive to maximize labor exploitation.

This Scotus might actually grant it. It fits in with the totalibertarian fever dream of the Federalist Society, who supplied a majority of far-right justices.

 

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John Oliver offering Clarence Thomas $1M a year to resign from Supreme Court
Comedian and “Last Week Tonight” host John Oliver is urging Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to resign, offering him $1 million per year to do so.

Oliver railed against the conservative justice during the 11th season premiere of his weekly show Sunday, saying Thomas had made the lives of Americans “demonstrably worse” and promising him a brand new luxury recreational vehicle if he agrees to step down from the high court.

“Lot on your plate right now. From stripping away women’s rights to hearing Jan. 6 cases, you definitely shouldn’t be hearing two potentially helping rollback decades of federal regulations,” he said.

“So that’s the offer. $1 million a year, Clarence. And a brand new condo on wheels. And all you have to do in return is sign the contract and get the f‑‑‑ off the Supreme Court,” Oliver added. “Talk it over with your totally best friend in the whole world. Because the clock starts now. Thirty days, Clarence … Let’s do this!”

Thomas has come under scrutiny from media outlets and ethics watchdogs in recent months after reporting by ProPublica found he had failed to disclose luxury trips and other benefits he received from conservative billionaire Harlan Crow.

“I think you’re thinking, what would my friend say if I take this offer? Will they judge me as they sit in their boardrooms and mega yachts and Hitler shrines? Will they still treat me to luxury vacations and sing songs about me off their phones?” Oliver said. “Well, that’s the beauty of friendship, Clarence. If they’re real friends, they’ll love you no matter what your job is. So I guess this might be the perfect way to find out who your real friends actually are. ”
 

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Supreme Court declines to undo sanctions on pro-Trump 2020 campaign lawyers
The Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to undo sanctions against several lawyers allied with former President Trump for filing a meritless lawsuit challenging Michigan’s 2020 presidential election results.

Lawyers Sidney Powell, Lin Wood and others brought the lawsuit against Michigan state officials and Detroit in November 2020, one of dozens of suits filed in an attempt to prove election results in states where Trump had lost were illegitimate. The efforts failed across the board and no evidence of widespread fraud was uncovered.

After dismissing the case, U.S. District Judge Linda Parker, of the Eastern District of Michigan, ordered sanctions for the Trump-aligned lawyers, describing the lawsuit as a “historic and profound abuse of the judicial process.”

“Sanctions are required to deter the filing of future frivolous lawsuits designed primarily to spread the narrative that our election processes are rigged and our democratic institutions cannot be trusted,” Parker wrote in the 110-page opinion.

The Trump lawyers were ordered to pay back attorneys’ fees accumulated by Michigan state officials and Detroit in seeking the sanctions — and to take legal education classes. Parker also referred her decision to disciplinary authorities where each attorney is admitted for “investigation and possible suspension or disbarment.”

A federal appeals panel last year upheld most of those sanctions, prompting Powell, Wood and the other remaining lawyers to seek relief from the Supreme Court.

Powell, once a lawyer for Trump’s campaign, became a powerful surrogate for the former president’s false claims of election fraud, earning the nickname “Kraken” after issuing zealous speeches comparing the mythological creature to the alleged fraud.

Wood was formerly an attorney in Georgia, but retired after striking a deal with the State Bar of Georgia that it would not pursue disciplinary proceedings against him if he stopped practicing law.
 

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Supreme Court hands Trump victory in Colorado 14th Amendment ballot challenge
The Supreme Court ruled Colorado cannot disqualify former President Trump from the ballot under the 14th Amendment’s insurrection ban, a historic decision that preserves Trump’s ability to seek a second presidential term.

Monday’s unsigneddecision effectively ends the long-shot efforts that aimed to prevent Trump from returning to the White House, handing a monumental legal victory to the former president on the eve of Super Tuesday, when he is poised to close in on clinching the Republican nomination.

Voters and advocacy groups had filed dozens of challenges to Trump’s ballot eligibility in states across the country, claiming his actions surrounding the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack triggered his disqualification.

The high court instead sided with Trump by ruling a singular state has no unilateral authority to enforce the 14th Amendment to disqualify federal candidates.

“Former President Trump challenges that decision on several grounds. Because the Constitution makes Congress, rather than the States, responsible for enforcing Section 3 against federal officeholders and candidates, we reverse,” reads the unsigned opinion from the court.

So who has the authority to disqualify federal candidates?
 

CCGNZ

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Ginny Thomas makes me wanna puke,her intercepted texts during Jan 6 are all you need to know,and w/her hubby sitting on the Court,w/Alito and 3 Trump appointees,I'm expecting nothing but obstruction and favorable rulings from them,REALLY sucks and is alarming knowing the supreme arbiter in this nation is in pocket,essentially forestalling any chance of some closure prior to Nov. election. What a disappointment that they so obviously aid/abet in hindering justice to enhance the presidential bid of a appalling,obvious FK up, this complicity has forever tarnished the Court,another casualty to add to the list.
 

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Ginny Thomas makes me wanna puke,her intercepted texts during Jan 6 are all you need to know,and w/her hubby sitting on the Court,w/Alito and 3 Trump appointees,I'm expecting nothing but obstruction and favorable rulings from them,REALLY sucks and is alarming knowing the supreme arbiter in this nation is in pocket,essentially forestalling any chance of some closure prior to Nov. election. What a disappointment that they so obviously aid/abet in hindering justice to enhance the presidential bid of a appalling,obvious FK up, this complicity has forever tarnished the Court,another casualty to add to the list.
Got no prob w/keeping him on Ballot,but the ruling on immunity by the appelate court was SOUND,and if they want to rule on that OK,but 2 mos. added?
Reeks of holding up progress and reeks of putting the thumb on the scale.






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So, with the insurrection clause stripped of meaning, what’s to stop the Executive Branch from rounding up and detaining adjudicated insurrectionists in the legislature?

It’s not like the President need fear being tried for insurrection.

And with a dozen or so prime-mover Republican participants in Jan 6 waking up in cells in Guantánamo, who’s gonna impeach?

Dark fantasies from a heartbroken spectator of the decline and perhaps imminent fall of the republic.

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On a less chiliastic note — should Biden prevail and be given a blue legislature, it might be time to install a few extra justices and freeze dark money’s henchpeople out of pursuing the wishes of the Federascist Society.
 

CCGNZ

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So, with the insurrection clause stripped of meaning, what’s to stop the Executive Branch from rounding up and detaining adjudicated insurrectionists in the legislature?

It’s not like the President need fear being tried for insurrection.

And with a dozen or so prime-mover Republican participants in Jan 6 waking up in cells in Guantánamo, who’s gonna impeach?

Dark fantasies from a heartbroken spectator of the decline and perhaps imminent fall of the republic.

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On a less chiliastic note — should Biden prevail and be given a blue legislature, it might be time to install a few extra justices and freeze dark money’s henchpeople out of pursuing the wishes of the Federascist Society.
I honor precedent so I hate to say it,but,yeah it might be time for a 11 seat SCOTUS,this conservative/highly partisan bloc that has formed is really alarming,the three Trump appointees LIED blatantly when asked outright at confirmation if they would honor precedent in ruling.BS, they honor literal text when it suits then use a modern interpretation of text when it suits. Rule objectively when it suits then subjectively when it suits,these judges need Musilex to get more solid.They are clearly in pocket of perk providing benefactors for the MAGA purview,2 more seats could really help the balance though it could open up a can of worms,that said at this point,DO IT.
 

CCGNZ

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Imagine being Clarence Thomas and getting these really expensive trips gifted to you all the time and thinking it’s just because rich people like you.
Damn right,big super educated legal mind doesn't understand "Quid Pro Quo"or "Conflict of Interest",Clarence, send Ginny to one of your billionaire BROS personally owned tropical islands,PERMANENTLY,after Marjorie Taylor Gangrene,Ginny is second on the repulsive women list of mine.
 
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