Switching from 18/6 to 24/0 in flowering (auto strain)

VincenzioVonHook

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After further calculations using an average from a few light calculators, a single 2100k CFL at 5500 lumens, 12" height with a reflector ran 20hrs a day will illuminate a 1m² area at an average rate of 100umol/s with hotspots of 130, so at 6" height, at 16" apart (the width of the TS) will illuminate a 100x50cm area 218umol/s on average. Add the 500-600umol/s 45x45cm hotspot from the TS at 12" and you are looking at around 800umol/s in the hotspot, with a 4x2.5 core coverage area.

That's a decent upgrade to coverage and photon density. What size are you running? If your in a square space, one will be fine..

I underestimated these CFLs.

All these measurements are PPFD in (µmol m-2 s-1)
 

papricash

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After further calculations using an average from a few light calculators, a single 2100k CFL at 5500 lumens, 12" height with a reflector ran 20hrs a day will illuminate a 1m² area at an average rate of 100umol/s with hotspots of 130, so at 6" height, at 16" apart (the width of the TS) will illuminate a 100x50cm area 218umol/s on average. Add the 500-600umol/s 45x45cm hotspot from the TS at 12" and you are looking at around 800umol/s in the hotspot, with a 4x2.5 core coverage area.

That's a decent upgrade to coverage and photon density. What size are you running? If your in a square space, one will be fine..

I underestimated these CFLs.
it's good to have a fella like you in the neighborhood.:) thank you for your comprehensive effort and kindness.
My tent is 70x70x160. Just first plant and i really don't want to throw away a chance to harvest a decent yield. I already ordered an adapter from e27 to e40. I would use the cfl without a reflector. The height will be a low as it is possible. (light just on hanging from the roof) From one side is the ts, in the middle will be the cfl and on the
other side the uvb light (migro uvb 310). Would be it ok?
 

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papricash

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After further calculations using an average from a few light calculators, a single 2100k CFL at 5500 lumens, 12" height with a reflector ran 20hrs a day will illuminate a 1m² area at an average rate of 100umol/s with hotspots of 130, so at 6" height, at 16" apart (the width of the TS) will illuminate a 100x50cm area 218umol/s on average. Add the 500-600umol/s 45x45cm hotspot from the TS at 12" and you are looking at around 800umol/s in the hotspot, with a 4x2.5 core coverage area.

That's a decent upgrade to coverage and photon density. What size are you running? If your in a square space, one will be fine..

I underestimated these CFLs.

All these measurements are PPFD in (µmol m-2 s-1)
I made some images about the girl. Tried to focus on buds but not sure how authentic/realistic it looks. I like your "scientific" approach and i assume it is based also on experience. What do you think regarding the images would be these flowers/buds bigger, denser in the next few weeks? baby is a Gorilla glue auto from fastbuds and today she is 46 day old from germination. That investment into the cfl is not a big deal, it's cheap, but maybe i do not need it. i have no experience with indoor growing therefor i don't know how looks the morphology of the developing buds. Will these buds connect and develop into big chunks of colas or they won't grow as much till end of the flowering stage? I'm not obsessed with the length but I would like to really have a enough good quality fuel/yield for the next few months. What do you think?
 

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Jjgrow420

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patience is a virtue.
an apple isnt an apple until its an apple.
ya dig?
yes you need a better/more light but keep the light close and youll get some bud.
 

papricash

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patience is a virtue.
an apple isnt an apple until its an apple.
ya dig?
yes you need a better/more light but keep the light close and youll get some bud.
i know bro. you know, i just invest some time into this and also money and i try always the best. yeah, it's my first plant but i think the first 5 weeks were really good. i lst-ed the plant, put some effort, took a risk and naturally i want not just "some bud".:) light is on the minimal suggested height 12 inches.
 

Jjgrow420

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i know bro. you know, i just invest some time into this and also money and i try always the best. yeah, it's my first plant but i think the first 5 weeks were really good. i lst-ed the plant, put some effort, took a risk and naturally i want not just "some bud".:) light is on the minimal suggested height 12 inches.
well unfortunatley some.bud is all you're gona get.
minimal investments produce minimal results.

cant expect big buds and weight with 100w and some twisty cfls. but youll get 'some bud'
walk dont run
yes you did an alright job so far just keep at it and improve each run
 

papricash

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well unfortunatley some.bud is all you're gona get.
minimal investments produce minimal results.

cant expect big buds and weight with 100w and some twisty cfls. but youll get 'some bud'
walk dont run
yes you did an alright job so far just keep at it and improve each run
funny attitude bro.:D probably you are just bad informed. you can find dozens of indoor growing sessions with weak ts600 ended in wonderful results. yeah, mine maybe is not that success story but i repeat, the plant is just 46 days old. i still hope and i will rather play with that twisty cfls than with the pessimism.;)
 

Jjgrow420

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funny attitude bro.:D probably you are just bad informed. you can find dozens of indoor growing sessions with weak ts600 ended in wonderful results. yeah, mine maybe is not that success story but i repeat, the plant is just 46 days old. i still hope and i will rather play with that twisty cfls than with the pessimism.;)
wtf are you talking about i was trying to be nice to you and say you did a good.job and youll get some weed but dont expect huge yeilds under 100w light.
thats all i was saying.
truth hurts?
 

papricash

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wtf are you talking about i was trying to be nice to you and say you did a good.job and youll get some weed but dont expect huge yeilds under 100w light.
thats all i was saying.
truth hurts?
it sounds more like a mischief but maybe I'm just lost in a translation.:)
btw. 40 - 50g from one plant with ts600 would be more than enough for me. I'm not planting for selling it.
 

Dank Bongula

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It will swell and it will grow. Have patience. You can keep it on 18/6 or 20/4 just fine. My buddy is growing a WW with that light at 12in and for doing absolutely nothing to it, it's looking pretty good all things considered...it was stunted, overwatered and flowered at like 4 weeks, a week and a half after transplant. He is afraid to even touch it lol but it is like 14in tall and 4-5in wide at the base...just one big cola.
 

papricash

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It will swell and it will grow. Have patience. You can keep it on 18/6 or 20/4 just fine. My buddy is growing a WW with that light at 12in and for doing absolutely nothing to it, it's looking pretty good all things considered...it was stunted, overwatered and flowered at like 4 weeks, a week and a half after transplant. He is afraid to even touch it lol but it is like 14in tall and 4-5in wide at the base...just one big cola.
In previous message is already the result of my patience. ;)
 
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