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Synesthesia test room

Discussion in 'Grow Journals' started by stonedtrooper42, Apr 16, 2017.

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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Well finally decided to put up a journal, figured our test room would make a good subject.

    Details

    Grower - Myself Ritz aka Stonedtrooper42

    Lighting - Seven 1k lumatek hps, hortilux eye bulbs, radiant 8 a/c hoods, 104' sq of tables in 120' sq room!

    Media - Rockwool top feed dtw

    Nutes - changing them around(purpose of this grow)follow along see what happens

    Atmosphere - 24k A/C, 70pint de-humidifier, CO2 if i want it, chhc-1 controller, RO water

    Strains - Synesthesia/QleanDream, Apothecary/GrapeApe(DarkHeart cut), Cookie Fam/Gelato(DH cut), Moxie/Golden Cobra, Cherrie Pie, 707HB and some La Affie x Kosher. All pre-proven cuts.

    All comments and questions welcomed

    So this room got started with House and Garden full line up but the GA showed bad lock out as well as the ChP. ChP being the worse. Screenshot_2017-04-16-16-07-33-1.png Screenshot_2017-04-16-16-07-45.png

    Others were doing ok
    Golden cobra Screenshot_2017-04-16-16-07-59.png Gelato Screenshot_2017-04-16-16-08-07.png 707 HB Screenshot_2017-04-16-16-08-42.png

    Played around for week or two chasing nute def/lock/block...each strain showing slightly different problems.

    Seeing as we run all these strains and more i wanted to have a base regiment that worked for everybody with minimal adaptions. So switched the room to a 3-part mix that another Synesthesia member(Khamudi) runs.
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Two weeks on that regiment and things are looking better but the CherriePie and GrapeApe had fallen too far behind to be ran with everybody else...still on their 4"cubes. 20170326_211209.jpg 20170326_211420.jpg
    There were two Papadelics on front edge in re-veg
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    They were still having minor N, P and Mg issues.

    Broke down Khamudi's mix as follows
    PPMs

    N-171
    P-66
    K-227
    Mg-48
    S-20
    Ca-129
    Fe-2.83
    Mn-1.07
    Cu-0.21
    Si-51.78
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Pulled out All ChP :sad: set room up with 5-6 plants per light. Re-adjusted recipe to get

    PPMs

    N-322
    P-71
    K-227
    Mg-77
    S-45
    Ca-300
    Fe-6.46
    Mn-2.59
    Zn-0.78
    Cu-0.51
    Si-51.8 IMG-20170327-WA0000.jpeg re-vegs stayed in for now, flip 12/12.
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    On that regiment they f'n exploded! After week 1 of flower showing a lil S def, adjusted for that.
    Left side; Gelato, 4 lil Grape Ape and Affie
    Right side; 2 Papadelic re-veg, 1 707HB, 7 Golden Cobra and 7 QleanDream
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    Gelato 20170403_191856.jpg
    GrapeApe 20170403_191914.jpg
    Affie
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    Qleandream and Golden Cobra 20170403_192015.jpg
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    End of week 2 stretch has finally stopped. Have to go through and pull out lots of lower branches. Poor lil GAs are just a low spot on left canopy. 20170410_095922.jpg 20170410_095945.jpg Re-veg Papadelics get Pulled out, they didn't get enough veg time to go back into flower(they're another story for another time) but hey at least they made some killer live wax! 20170405_205457.jpg
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Mid week 2

    I think the new reg is working fairly well. De-foliated 10gal of leaf and lower branches! Normally hate to do it this early but these girls are putting on size quick. 20170414_200407.jpg
    Gelato 20170414_200418.jpg
    GA 20170414_200430.jpg Affie 20170414_200445.jpg 20170414_200546.jpg
    Qleandream and Golden Cobra 20170414_200459.jpg
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Damn it! should have put this before the pics of week 2. Oh well :oops:

    Started W2 with transition reg. Will continue this for W3 as well.

    PPMs

    N-224
    P-84
    K-224
    Mg-100
    S-72
    Ca-204
    Fe-4.58
    Mn-1.62
    Zn-0.486
    Cu-0.324
    Si-3.33

    Btw I'm using CannaStats calculator for putting together these mixes. I'm also mixing these at 60-75% strength and increasing until tip burn. My main focus is to have a balanced regiment that can be easily scaled up.
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Day 22 20170418_173807.jpg 20170418_173840.jpg 20170418_173931.jpg 20170418_174036.jpg 20170418_174111.jpg 20170418_174203.jpg

    Time to hit them with full flower:mrgreen:

    I'll use this mix for the next few weeks, hopefully just increasing strength to around 2.2-2.5 TDS. But we'll see how they take it.

    PPMs

    N - 172
    P - 236
    K - 455
    Mg - 124
    S - 112
    Ca - 178
    Fe - 3.86
    Zn - 0.45
    Cu - 0.32
    Si - 3.3

    This mix was a refinement of another grower who's focus was commercial yeild. But I'm trying to balance the health of our plants while pushing them as hard as possible.
     
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    714steadyeddie

    714steadyeddie Well-Known Member

    Nice grow op, I liked the results of house and garden. I used hem before switching to soil.

    Subbed for this.
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    @714steadyeddie Welcome along for the ride.

    H&G has been my go to "No brainer" line up...it always produces well.

    Here I'm trying to use what we have available for a larger scale, hence "the test room". I know what each of these plants are capable of with "cannabis specific" nutes, n that will be the goal8).
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Day 24

    Well the girls closed off my walkway so I tossed up some netting. Really wished I hadn't gotten them as big while playing with the nutes in veg. Didn't expect that growth explosion :D

    They're feeding twice a day now, killing a 75 gal res in 2-3 days. Also should be noted I'm run 0.1ml/gal of bleach in my resi.

    Noticed the leaf hook, N overload. Gelato and Affie are showing it but 707HB, QD and GC aren't hooking at all. Interesting the indica hybrids are using less N by now...maybe sativa hybrids with a longer flower cycle are still consuming it while they stretch they're last bit. I will cut to the flower mix sooner with indica dom strains next time.

    Grape Ape was seriously stunted off the break so I can't judging them at all:wall:

    Room temps 74*D 67*N
    Humidity 45-68% it's been raining
    CO2 320-800ppm no bottle yet, might not at all

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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Day 28 things are moving along nicely. De-foliated +5 gal of fan leaves to open the canopy back up.

    Running mix at 2.5 TDS full strength! Not much tip burn going on, but noticed N and K uptake differences between some strains. I will bring the K down overall and adjust the N per strains request:bigjoint:

    On to the pics
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Day 42
    Canopy got out of control on this run, mids n lowers were fully blocked for light. Went through and De-foliated around day 38, I feel that was too early. But no real choice. I'll have to wait n see what final #s are and if that hurt my overall yeild.
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Day 47
    GA is looking like it's wrapping up, Affie getting real heavy. GC, Gelato and QD got two weeks left easy. 707 it's just now in full flower:-?.
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    Day 63

    Grape Ape and Gelato came down after 5 day flush. 20170528_193933.jpg 20170528_201002.jpg 20170528_200854_Burst01.jpg

    Single plant of Gelato 20170524_210101.jpg 20170524_210849.jpg
    Single light 8 plants
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    Normally I'd hang everything in the room on stringers, but different strains will be coming down at different times. So off to the drying racks...Ya trimming with flat spots!:cuss:

    Looking at 3-5 days on the Affie, 5-7 on the GC, 7-10 on the QD and 707HB:lol:
     
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    JDMase

    JDMase Well-Known Member

    WOW! Not sure how I missed this grow but good job!

    Im also using Rockwool in the same way you are but I am struggling to get mine to feed more than once a day, I expect that's due to my 315w CMH and maybe needing another for my space. .

    How do you make sure once they fill up their last cube they don't need more root space? Ive had people mention to me on my grow journal that they'll struggle to finish in the 6" Hugo. Is that what yours go into from the 4"?

    Thanks for the awesome grow journal! Something for me to aspire to
     
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    mjinc

    mjinc Well-Known Member

    Looking very good. Nice to see more people growing in rockwool, it's such a good medium for the water/air ratio while being easy to use and replace.
     
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    stonedtrooper42

    stonedtrooper42 Well-Known Member

    @JDMase thanks for checking this out.

    The term "feeding" could be used for two things; rate of transporation(water consumption) and nutrient consumption rate. Focus on temp and humidity for transporation. Nutrient consumption will be dictated by all environment factors, age and genetics.

    I'll veg 2-3 weeks in 4s, then 10-14 days before flip I put them on the 6s. Depending on strain and structure. This run timing was a lil different:roll:
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