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tags420

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There is both but mostly 660's. The 660's are on the whole time the induction is on...then when the lights(everything) is turned off the 730 kicks on only for five minutes.

This is what a day looks like for the way I run it...
12 hours of induction+pontoon's 660nm
then 5minutes of 730nm
then 11hours and 55minutes of complete dark.
 

PurpleBuz

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There is both but mostly 660's. The 660's are on the whole time the induction is on...then when the lights(everything) is turned off the 730 kicks on only for five minutes.

This is what a day looks like for the way I run it...
12 hours of induction+pontoon's 660nm
then 5minutes of 730nm
then 11hours and 55minutes of complete dark.
I wonder if that would help long maturing Sativas to finish up a little faster.
 

619ster

Member
Just catching up on things here Tags. Lots of fun stuff going on! Sorry to see your plants suffering from the overdose. But hey, experimentation doesn't always go so great lol. And you do quite a bit. Anywho, gonna tag along on this one as well. I like the variety of things you have going for sure. Thanks for the work you do.
 

chazbolin

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As for the AOS...it has nothing to do with lights...the jilly's got fucked too and they are pulling through great and are under AT's. Plus as we just discussed my IG room needs more light for all the babies and adding a bigger plant is doing the exact opposite of what I want. Not to mention the last thing AOS needs is more stress. I think the big lemons will show the IG just fine.
Hey Tags! I know the lights aren't the culprit I was just interested in seeing if the difference in spectrums would show us anything. Believe me I want these on the come back too.

As to the addition of the AT's on the end of the IG and an expansion of the area I believe, if you decide to do it, that's gonna prove interesting too. Keep those great updates coming!!

I wonder if that would help long maturing Sativas to finish up a little faster.
I'm planning on a trialing Blue Dream run with the 420-Pontoons running a 14/10 flower to see how they finish. If I can shave a week off that will be an early xmas.
 

tags420

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Dream is possibly the best strain ever from a growing perspective. Huge quality yields. Always test high thc. It finishes quick, 8 weeks. It always comes out great no matter what person or system grows it. I just hate how everyone and there mom grows it. It could do realy well with an induction. IG defiantly veg's better than any light I've used with so far. And dream is a seriously vigorous bitch.


Just catching up on things here Tags. Lots of fun stuff going on! Sorry to see your plants suffering from the overdose. But hey, experimentation doesn't always go so great lol. And you do quite a bit. Anywho, gonna tag along on this one as well. I like the variety of things you have going for sure. Thanks for the work you do.
Thanks man
I have been playing around a lot indoors. Basically I usually run supersoil but ran out. And with my situation, it is difficult to mix and make it. So I have been going the nutrients route and been doing pretty shitty at it if I do say so myself. Basically the combination of a new location kinks and experimenting with nutes has been the major issues for the past 2 grows. After this recent fuck up I have just decided to go back to super soil no matter what it takes to make it. I have it mixed and cooking now. Enough for my next run, maybe 2.
Next run will be good normal super soil with just water all the way through. Worked great for 9 years of outdoor and 5 of indoor with no problems. Don't fix what ain't broke!
 

hyroot

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I use crab meal, rock dust and neem meal and kelp meal. If you top dress at the beginning of veg then you are good. You can top dress at the last week or 2 of veg and you will be good all through flower. I topdress the rols pots. When making a soil mix I let It cook for only a month. All that breaks down much faster. I also add all those to my worm bin too. In very small amounts though.
 

peoples

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What is all this talk about cookin', Breaking Bad isn't out for at least a month! :rolleyes:

But seriously, Tags and hyroot, you guys make your own soil-mix I understand. Care to explain the process ?
Pretty please, with sugar on the top.


.. god damnit, those BBcodes are really a pain in my side!
Trying to get a url link to my grow. Is this code wrong ? Well, obviously, but how ?
Using ( insted of [.
(b)(color=green)(url=blablabla)The link should be here(/url)(/color)(/b)


Btw Tags, do you think it would be possible to ask the AT guys if they could measure the par reading in a footprint method. Something like this:
https://www.growershouse.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/SolarStormTestInfographicReviewFootprint.jpg

The review for those light are here:
https://growershouse.com/blog/california-light-works-solar-storm-800w-led-grow-light-par-and-footprint-review/
 

Highocaine

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^ Use:
(url="linkgoesinhere")blablablatextdescription(/url)

Also tags I'mma tag along for the finish, lookin' good.
 

tags420

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^^^I have seen all the growershouse test and plan on measuring things like that myself once the new lights are ready. I had the opportunity to go down last thursday, but the big AT660 wasn't going to be there and that is my main reason to go. So I will wait till the max yield show this weekend, plus get to see anything else that is out/there. And I will get/have a par meter(finally) while there. The reason you don't see test like that from led manufactures is because it shows how little they actually cover compared to hps.

Here is the best test to look at. The OG reflector ups the par readings a ton...but the coverage is very limited compared to the trusty old raptor. They never do a test with the best hps setup but from the 3 different test you can conclude that a (solis tek ballast w/eye hortilux bulb in an OG hood) would be the most umols a hps could do. But the raptor hood is better from actual grow room applications and still has high par...specially out at the 4x4 mark. I want to see a gavita system tested like this too. I could probably get mostergardens to do one...they rep gavita pretty hard.
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And some LED's that are looked at as powerful/bigger coverage...you can see where/how they fall short of hps
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black-dog-platinum-xl-u-universal-series-par-test-review.jpg

Eventually most lights will get tested like this. I will do what ever/as many as I can at the show this weekend
 

peoples

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Wow! Great replay Tags!
Not to be a pain in your side or anything, but do you mind mailing me the original resolution for those graphs ?
Or was it maybe intended ? kiss-ass
 

tags420

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A day earlier than usual but couldn't wait...update time

[video=youtube;zA-UXFF6wZY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA-UXFF6wZY&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 

hyroot

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Looks great. Watering in the veg room must be a bitch. I have the same issue in my flower room. wall to wall. I have a closet on one wall. So I walk in on one side and out the other to get to the otherside of the room. Or I just move plants around and create a path.
 

peoples

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Looks great! What are you expecting in yield, LED vs HPS ?

Glad you explained about the really bright one in the LED section, I was starting to wonder.
So you pretty much just drained it of chlorophyll with that flushing ?
 

tags420

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Looks great. Watering in the veg room must be a bitch. I have the same issue in my flower room. wall to wall. I have a closet on one wall. So I walk in on one side and out the other to get to the otherside of the room. Or I just move plants around and create a path.
It is ok with just the 4-5 feet I am using now but when I was vegging the big lemons in the 3g's it was a bitch. I would have to move the front couple rows out and walk on tip toes between saucers to get all the way back. The one good thing about moving my plants so much is I get to inspect and see them more often and better.

Looks great! What are you expecting in yield, LED vs HPS ?

Glad you explained about the really bright one in the LED section, I was starting to wonder.
So you pretty much just drained it of chlorophyll with that flushing ?
There is no side by side or comparison between the 2 sides. But they should be about equal in theory... ~3 units +/- per side(LED and HPS). But with all the problems I keep getting into on my led side it will probably be lower...hopefully I can still get 2 from the led side.

The Jilly that is yellower than the others(the bright one as you say) got flushed slightly harder than the rest...meaning that all the nutrients(specifically nitrogen) were "flushed" out of the soil leaving it with low/no nutrients left and thus started to yellow.

EDIT:
Jilly's are looking good. Stars of the show.
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peoples

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Tags, the plants are starting to get to the stage where I can begin making the screen, when do you think I should start lowering the lights ?
I am keeping them high now because I want the stretch for the screen.
400w LED and HPS:

 

tags420

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I did some trichome inspection and photo shots of the Big Lemons(hps) with some apache light. Makes a crazy difference visually...they look so good under nice white light.

Day 57
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They are just entering the harvest window. A few ambers on the most developed, but most everything milky and pretty much reaching peak. They should be right on the 9wk mark.
 

PSUAGRO.

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WOW tags^^^^^ beautiful girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Sooooooooooo what strain you running for the comp?? medium??? ferts?? .....just a couple questions no biggie:P

+ rep for the bitches^^^
 

tags420

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I have been thinking about what strain to run. I will probably do some kind of super airy soil or a coco mix maybe. Everything about my cup project is still in thought.

I am not going to use my new fresh tga packs or any name brand breeders, just my own crosses or some greengenes pass downs.


Here is my bean bank to choose from(all regs)...kind of in order of which I like most/what are probably still viable.
Mine
GSC x Jillybean
Kandy Kush x Jillybean
Chem99 x Jillybean
Skunk#1 x Jillybean

Greengenes gifts

Alpha Blue(blue dream x ecsd)
Kali mist
Real McCoy x shiva shanti
Flow#1
Flow#2
Klamath purple x Hawaiian indica
Soma’s lavender x ecsd
Jack x ecsd
Headband x ecsd
OGRE x ecsd
Malowi gold x hombult purple(from simon @ serious seeds)
Gods gift x big bud(same as big lemons)
Purple og x bigbud
Platinum og x bigbud
Martian mean green x steelhead kush
Lambsbread x pangia
Somas lavender x pangia


Which do you guys like?
 
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