Tangerine Dream Auto Day 72 From seed

Thank you! We are using cal/mag but it wasn't very much because we went by that schedule and I suspect the person that came up with the schedule may have higher PPM in their water. At this stage in flower, should we up the amount of cal/mag? I have looked closely at the leaves with a 60x magnifier and do not see any mites , but I know they are supposed to be really small so I could just not see them.

ive noticed some strains stay quite light green sometimes near all the top growth , but it goes away eventually it seems.

ideally do not want to be watering every day and especially feeding every other , at all , mine get a full feed and water in 10ltr pots every 7-10 days depending on how fast they dry out , proper dry and wet cycle is important.

Currently using biobizz all mix soil , grow feed,bloom feed,top max stimulant and bio heaven amino acids , literally never noticed any kind of deficiency or problem so far , the trace list of stuff they have in them is just wonderful.

Little bit of nute burn just a little bit I think , my autos have a tiny bit as well justttt a little , they are quite light feeders thats for sure.

I mean it all depends if you are using soil which im good with or these are in coco which ive no idea about really,definitely need a proper wet/dry cycle with soil thats for sure.

Good luck , get some pics of my autos up again soon.....theyre gonna take agggessss

CptBluemax said:

I mean it all depends if you are using soil which im good with or these are in coco which ive no idea about really,definitely need a proper wet/dry cycle with soil thats for sure.
Good luck , get some pics of my autos up again soon.....theyre gonna take agggessss

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There is usually a day in between watering, and when we water the top is dry and its usually dry to the first knuckle. It is just coco coir mixed with a little perlite. The reason we started doing nutes with each watering is because my partner saw a youtube video of someone who claims to do that and has massive buds. I'm always sceptical because I feel like he believes everything he sees on the internet without doing any additional research. I do not know enough and find so many conflicting and different methods, that I usually just go along with what he thinks. I do put up a fight sometimes. I did get to save my tangies. I really appreciate you taking the time to give advice. Everyone on here has been really helpful and kind.

Lots of people run coco and feed every time. One key is how strong the feeds are though. I don't run coco and can't currently remember that's common though.

I'm also under the belief that you do not want coco to completely dry out.

Don't let your buddy believe everything. Lol there is a ton of terrible grow advice on the internet. Just because some guy on YouTube got some fat buds doing something does not mean it will work the same for you. Broscience is not real science.

Thundercat said:

Lots of people run coco and feed every time. One key is how strong the feeds are though. I don't run coco and can't currently remember that's common though.


I'm also under the belief that you do not want coco to completely dry out.

Don't let your buddy believe everything. Lol there is a ton of terrible grow advice on the internet. Just because some guy on YouTube got some fat buds doing something does not mean it will work the same for you. Broscience is not real science.

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Thanks! That makes me feel a little better about the feedings. I dont think it has gotten completely dry. We give a gallon of water each time and have about 15% runoff each time. Hopefully we can get it dialed in.
Lmao, I have said so many times, do not believe everything you see on the internet. Lately I have said we need to research more before we make decisions because some of the advice he has taken has not turned out great. The 2 tangie autos took over 100 days and we might get an ounce from each one. And I feel it's because we stressed them really bad in the beginning and if we had not done certain things we might have gotten a bigger yield. The one that is currently drying smells really good though. He also keeps seeing different grow methods like super soil and no till and wants to keep changing our method of growing and I just feel we should become experts at one method so we can understand the plants better and then when we are doing something new we know what's going on. Our first grow was just regular soil and with bag seeds. The 2nd we tried a super soil mix, but we made many mistakes and the yields were terrible. The 3rd we did DWC which turned out awesome! We got 10 ounces on 2 plants. We did DWC in our fourth grow with those autos and a month later started the coco plants. I know autos are sensitive and can get easily over watered so I think our dwc setup was not right for those. Up until about a week ago the coco plants were doing awesome and then started showing brown spots. I feel like if we had stuck to just one method and learned and made mistakes, we could be better prepared and better educated for this coco grow. I think I have at least held him off on trying the no till thing for a while and maybe doing coco until we gain more experience. It's hard when there are so many opinions out there. Sometimes he shows me these videos and right away I notice everything wrong and I'm like I just do not want to take advice from that person when they clearly have no clue, but he clings to every word in the video and does not notice until I point it out. When we first started growing I just listened to him because I figured he knew how to tell the difference in credibility, but after I started watching them myself I knew he had a problem of believing it just because it was on the internet. I feel like when reading these forums you can tell that some of them are just not smart by the way they type and the attitude they portray on here. I have really appreciated everyone that has replied to my posts. Every person so far has been straight forward, and kept it real. No one has been rude and everyone seems to know what they are talking about but if they dont they have been honest and said so. Anyway, I think I just wrote yall a book lol. Thank you again!

Very glad to help! I've been around here for years. I got a help from some great growers along the way to learn the plants, and learn the difference between the good info and bad. I try to help others the same way. Understanding the plant will teach you much more about how to grow it, then watching any video. Your grow is your grow. The environment, the specific plant, everything about it is different from those guys videos. I'm glad when you watch them you see the deficiancies, and the issues, because many don't.

I have done a few soil grows, and have been running flood and drain tables with grow rock medium ever since. Recently I have been considering setting up a S.I.P. planter under its own light. It seems like an awesome grow method, but I kinda love not having any "dirt" in my house.

Thundercat said:

Very glad to help! I've been around here for years. I got a help from some great growers along the way to learn the plants, and learn the difference between the good info and bad. I try to help others the same way. Understanding the plant will teach you much more about how to grow it, then watching any video. Your grow is your grow. The environment, the specific plant, everything about it is different from those guys videos. I'm glad when you watch them you see the deficiancies, and the issues, because many don't.

I have done a few soil grows, and have been running flood and drain tables with grow rock medium ever since. Recently I have been considering setting up a S.I.P. planter under its own light. It seems like an awesome grow method, but I kinda love not having any "dirt" in my house.

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Flood and drain is another method he has mentioned. I did like the idea of that. It seemed once it's set up there isn't much upkeep as there is with other methods.
My main issue is that I cant tell if the plant is deficient or being burned. So it always seems like a guessing game to fix leaf problems.

Nute burn is its own thing, and shows specifically with the tips, and edge tips of the leaves getting brown and crispy. Nute burn is usually pretty easy to ID.

Deficiancies are tough though. It can be very tough without trial and error to tell if you have a true deficiancies or if you have a lockout issue from over doing it. That is were it comes in handy running the same plant/clones for multiple grows. You can learn what it does, and what it needs. Some plants are easy, some are bitches plain and simple.

Thundercat said:

Nute burn is its own thing, and shows specifically with the tips, and edge tips of the leaves getting brown and crispy. Nute burn is usually pretty easy to ID.

Deficiancies are tough though. It can be very tough without trial and error to tell if you have a true deficiancies or if you have a lockout issue from over doing it. That is were it comes in handy running the same plant/clones for multiple grows. You can learn what it does, and what it needs. Some plants are easy, some are bitches plain and simple.

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I would say we have a deficiency by your description. When we went into flower, the nute schedule we are going by lowered the amount of calmag by half. Everything else stayed the same or went up slightly I think by a quarter. The leaves on the critical have been light in color the whole time,but neither plant showed signs of trouble until we got into to flower. The bus still seem to be getting bigger and faster by the day. For our next grow we are sticking with coco and we are growing the same strains from a previous grow so hopefully we can learn some things or just become aware of what we are doing wrong.

So our first tangie is still drying. We started drying on Sunday. The first 2.5 days it was still smelling awesome, but yesterday when we checked on it, it smelled like hay. It still has moisture. They seemed like they may be dry by friday or Saturday. We only cut off the big fan leaves. We did not trim the rest of the plant. We have it drying inside a cardboard box and the humidity in the box has been between 58% and 62%. Should we have done something different. I know we could have gotten the humidity a little lower but they are drying slow and I thought it only got the hay smell if it dried too fast or you went trim and take too much off. We want to press the whole plant into wax once its dry. If it still smells like hay once its dried and we press it, will the wax taste gross? Or should we plan to cure it in jars for a bit before pressing? I'm really sad the smell changed.

Purple.hippie.libra said:

So our first tangie is still drying. We started drying on Sunday. The first 2.5 days it was still smelling awesome, but yesterday when we checked on it, it smelled like hay. It still has moisture. They seemed like they may be dry by friday or Saturday. We only cut off the big fan leaves. We did not trim the rest of the plant. We have it drying inside a cardboard box and the humidity in the box has been between 58% and 62%. Should we have done something different. I know we could have gotten the humidity a little lower but they are drying slow and I thought it only got the hay smell if it dried too fast or you went trim and take too much off. We want to press the whole plant into wax once its dry. If it still smells like hay once its dried and we press it, will the wax taste gross? Or should we plan to cure it in jars for a bit before pressing? I'm really sad the smell changed.

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There are a couple variables here. First thing is let it finish drying before you worry much. In the middle of the drying process the plant will often give off the dry veg smell. The slower you dry the better. If you press it I think you would mostly get whatever smell the resin has. If you rub the buds does it still smell nice?

Thundercat said:

There are a couple variables here. First thing is let it finish drying before you worry much. In the middle of the drying process the plant will often give off the dry veg smell. The slower you dry the better. If you press it I think you would mostly get whatever smell the resin has. If you rub the buds does it still smell nice?

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Yes, I squeezed a small bud and it still smells like dank weed. So that gave me hope. I just dont want the dabs to taste like hay. Just checked them again and the leaves are dry but the buds still seem moist plus the stems are not quite bendy yet. Thank you for responding!

Hi friends! I have an update on the tangies. Number one is dry and received a trim today. Smelled like good weed. We ended up with 46.7 grams of decent looking bud. We put it in jars, but will press at least half for wax this weekend and then let the rest cure for 2 weeks and then press it to see if we can tell a difference in taste. We weighed the trim/Larry buds and it came to 20.3 grams. We ran it on a trim bin and got 2.5 grams of kief from that. Now for tangie #2. We decided to cut her down tonight. She looked ready. Her buds ended up looking way better than #1. While we were hanging branches, she smelled so much like fruity pebbles or fruit loops. Definitely fruity. She smelled so amazing! We put her in darkness 24 hours before we cut her. We are also drying her inside the tent. We are definitely going to let her dry and cure properly and use some bud for smoke and to press. We should get close to if not more in yield compared to #1. I will keep you updated on the taste tests . My boyfriend and I are excited to try the tangies! Would have liked a bigger yield, but glad we got more than an ounce. Thanks again for everyone's feedback.

Congrats!

The 2nd tangie received a dry trim today. We ended up with 64.2 grams of decent bud. 13.8 grams of trim/larfy bud. We got some kief but I did not weigh it. We have pressed some of the first plant and it does not have too much flavor but it does relax you. I also forgot to get any pictures of it.

Day 100 today and still not done lololol , get some pics up for harvest I will.

Got some major major sativa expression slow flowering with ALL of them its seems , 2 giant 6ft daiquiris , 4 of them really indica looking maybe 2ft max , and the gigabud auto which is the widest thing in there and about 3ft high , but seems even though shes meant to be pure Indica ive got a very very sativa like bud structure/flower time. Small ones are really starting to fatten up the 6fts a bit behind still kicking off a good bit of white and gigabud last , still throwing huge amounts of white stigma.

There is a little bit of nute burn I underestimated how light they needed feeding (new they were light even from DPs description so made sure I didnt go overboard) and I dont think it will have slowed them down THAT much , gigabuds just the same in auto a light feeder.

Had to lower the light schedule and do all sorts to make sure I get the temps down , been slowly dialed down from 20/4 all the way to 10/14 now , just gets too hot right now with the 600w even with the outake fan sucking right on it.

Justtttt starting to notice some ambers on the daiquiris and theyre starting to consume their fan leaves so , we getting close