Tea baggers love feudalism.

GOD HERE

GOD HERE

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sync0s said:
Right, because it's free market economics that needs to make up bogus multipliers in order to prove their math.



Amazingly, I have now become a "right winger"... more ad hominem attacks from the very person who chastised me for using logical fallacy.

BTW, it's more of a waste of time to sit and wait for me to re-post something and you respond to it, than you to simply go back one page and read it yourself. Nice try though.
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"Right winger" is not an attack. It's a statement of where you are on the political spectrum. Likewise, I would be a left winger.

Jesus pull your panties out of your ass.
 
sync0s

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GOD HERE said:
"Right winger" is not an attack. It's a statement of where you are on the political spectrum. Likewise, I would be a left winger.

Jesus pull your panties out of your ass.
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I am not right wing at all, fyi. However, you live in a world that doesn't teach you that there is more than right and left, so I can't blame you for it.
 
sync0s

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abandonconflict said:
"One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, our side, had captured a crucial word from the enemy Libertari*ans had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over." ~Murray Rothbard.

Or how about the time he called egalitarianism a revolt against nature?

Or how about Ayn Rand calling altruism evil?
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Oh, you mean, like how we have to constantly make sure we say that we are "classical" liberals, because the left wing has hijacked the word liberal?
 
abandonconflict

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sync0s said:
I am not right wing at all, fyi. However, you live in a world that doesn't teach you that there is more than right and left, so I can't blame you for it.
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Sorry to spill the beans, but you are indeed right wing if you aspire to "free-market".

The left-right paradigm is present in all political views, it is not a false dichotomy. It is an analogy of the French Revolution used to refer to socioeconomic interests.

Furthermore, you cannot separate social issues from economic ones. They are forever intertwined. The phrase "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" is a hipster view for idiots.
 
GOD HERE

GOD HERE

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sync0s said:
I am not right wing at all, fyi. However, you live in a world that doesn't teach you that there is more than right and left, so I can't blame you for it.
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No I live in a world where I know enough about politics to know where I stand on the spectrum, and how the spectrum is organized. I'm sorry you don't, but regardless of whether or not you identify with a position on the left or the right, the beliefs you hold will place you somewhere on the spectrum.

There is no up or down category.
 
sync0s

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abandonconflict said:
Sorry to spill the beans, but you are indeed right wing if you aspire to "free-market".

The left-right paradigm is present in all political views, it is not a false dichotomy. It is an analogy of the French Revolution used to refer to socioeconomic interests.

Furthermore, you cannot separate social issues from economic ones. They are forever intertwined. The phrase "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" is a hipster view for idiots.
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You and I both know that the right wing doesn't truly aspire for a free market. It's the same as they don't truly aspire for limited government. They only want to limit different areas.

My not being right wing has little to do with my stance on social issues.

BTW, if you view liberal as being pejorative, I feel sorry for you.

GOD HERE said:
No I live in a world where I know enough about politics to know where I stand on the spectrum, and how the spectrum is organized. I'm sorry you don't, but regardless of whether or not you identify with a position on the left or the right, the beliefs you hold will place you somewhere on the spectrum.

There is no up or down category.
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No I understand, the left loves to discredit outliers so they don't have to be referenced in the countless misleading charts and arguments they promote.

ChesusRice said:
If I was a right winger, I wouldn't want to claim to be one either
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That doesn't surprise me you say that with how much you have to change your username just to be allowed here.

If I were right wing I would not be ashamed if it at all. You left wingers just want me to be right wing so that you can continue with the typical campaign of discrediting your opponents with ad hom fallacy.



Summary: Interesting how this discussion has divulged into attacks on my ideological position in the political spectrum rather than arguing the position itself. I'm not surprised, though.
 
sync0s

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ChesusRice said:
How many times Have I changed my Username?

And I am proud to be a "left winger" some of us have to be rational
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When you go in with the belief that you are the only rational one, that only presents a basis for ignorance. It shows you have no mental capacity to think outside of yourself, either that your just very egotistical.

I'm happy you're proud of your position; positive self-esteem is very healthy.
 
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sync0s said:
When you go in with the belief that you are the only rational one, that only presents a basis for ignorance. It shows you have no mental capacity to think outside of yourself, either that your just very egotistical.

I'm happy you're proud of your position; positive self-esteem is very healthy.
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Yes Ayn Rand definatly espoused thinking of others in all her pulp fiction
 
abandonconflict

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sync0s said:
You and I both know that the right wing doesn't truly aspire for a free market. It's the same as they don't truly aspire for limited government. They only want to limit different areas.

My not being right wing has little to do with my stance on social issues.

BTW, if you view liberal as being pejorative, I feel sorry for you.
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Yes actually, that is what makes one right wing, their socioeconomic views. :wall:

Then you admit you're right wing but insist that has nothing to do with social views.:wall:

Lastly, I consider all of the terms which describe socioeconomic conditions favored by tea-billies to be pejorative but that has nothing to do with why I would point out that it is used pejoratively and therefore it didn't make sense for you to mention it in the first place. You said it was twisted in it's meaning, but the difference is that it was twisted into a pejorative. Therefore twisted by the people using it as a pejorative. You're the one rhetorically defending semantically incorrect arguments such that the words are twisted. Every statement you directed toward me in your most recent argument shows you don't really grasp the language of the debate. :wall:
 
Canna Sylvan

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abandonconflict said:
Yes actually, that is what makes one right wing, their socioeconomic views. :wall:

Then you admit you're right wing but insist that has nothing to do with social views.:wall:

Lastly, I consider all of the terms which describe socioeconomic conditions favored by tea-billies to be pejorative but that has nothing to do with why I would point out that it is used pejoratively and therefore it didn't make sense for you to mention it in the first place. You said it was twisted in it's meaning, but the difference is that it was twisted into a pejorative. Therefore twisted by the people using it as a pejorative. You're the one rhetorically defending semantically incorrect arguments such that the words are twisted. Every statement you directed toward me in your most recent argument shows you don't really grasp the language of the debate. :wall:
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How can we be sure you aren't a paid sponsor for the Pejorative foundation?
 
GOD HERE

GOD HERE

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sync0s said:
You and I both know that the right wing doesn't truly aspire for a free market. It's the same as they don't truly aspire for limited government. They only want to limit different areas.

My not being right wing has little to do with my stance on social issues.

BTW, if you view liberal as being pejorative, I feel sorry for you.



No I understand, the left loves to discredit outliers so they don't have to be referenced in the countless misleading charts and arguments they promote.



That doesn't surprise me you say that with how much you have to change your username just to be allowed here.

If I were right wing I would not be ashamed if it at all. You left wingers just want me to be right wing so that you can continue with the typical campaign of discrediting your opponents with ad hom fallacy.



Summary: Interesting how this discussion has divulged into attacks on my ideological position in the political spectrum rather than arguing the position itself. I'm not surprised, though.
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You're making blanket statements that have no connection to reality because you're butthurt. Everyone on the left subscribes to a nonsensical theory designed to discredit those on the right. Okay. Have you listened to right wing radio lately?
 
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You see that is the big problem with marxist think, Your boss isn't "appropriating value of your labor" he is increasing the value of your labor, if your labor was so valuable that your boss was ripping you off and you would do better without him then why would you work for him?
 
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