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twostrokenut

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If something is in demand but their is an abundance of it then prices may in fact fall or stay steady. Demand that outstrips supply causes inflation in price. Like buying pot when the town is dry.

It really is grade 9 or 10 school economics.
Price is a measure of goods and services. Inflation is rising price and devalued currency with no change in goods or services.

Substitute pot with currency in your example if you disagree......then lets discuss interest rates, which aren't inflation either.

If you wont look up definitions, you're actually pulling us back to elementary school.
 

UncleBuck

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I have asked those of my friends with higher education and my friends that collect their disability checks every month who they voted for and6the rubes all voted Hillarywhile my scientist friends6all voted Trump. I collect disability (VA) and am a college student that voted Trump. Non of this is scientific but it does contradict everything you say. Go ahead and attack me but it will not change what I have experienced myself. Good luck with your generalizations

SSD
it's not a generality though, it's supported by data.

those red counties turned way redder this year, and the rate of people receiving disability in those counties is way higher than in counties where more people are college educated. that's what we used to call a fact, but facts are now inferior to your feelings and experiences.

here is a prediction though: trump is gonna screw your disability check hard, and your free healthcare hard. he'll rubber stamp paul ryan to move on all of your government benefits like a little bitch. grab all your entitlements right by the pussy. oh, but here's a voucher. go find some care in the gloriously free market. the invisible hand will guarantee your satisfaction, not some dusty old regulation.

enjoy trump.
 

Lucky Luke

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Price is a measure of goods and services. Inflation is rising price and devalued currency with no change in goods or services.

Substitute pot with currency in your example if you disagree......then lets discuss interest rates, which aren't inflation either.

If you wont look up definitions, you're actually pulling us back to elementary school.
I quoted one from an economics site already (when u first asked me to). if your not even bothering to read what i write and still argue for the sake of arguing and keep throwing in silly snide remarks them im done with the debate. I can only tell you the facts so many times before i get bored of hitting my head against a brick wall.
Have a great day.
 

Lucky Luke

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I have asked those of my friends with higher education and my friends that collect their disability checks every month who they voted for and6the rubes all voted Hillarywhile my scientist friends6all voted Trump. I collect disability (VA) and am a college student that voted Trump. Non of this is scientific but it does contradict everything you say. Go ahead and attack me but it will not change what I have experienced myself. Good luck with your generalizations

SSD
it is actually supported by the data.
 

twostrokenut

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I quoted one from an economics site already (when u first asked me to). if your not even bothering to read what i write and still argue for the sake of arguing and keep throwing in silly snide remarks them im done with the debate. I can only tell you the facts so many times before i get bored of hitting my head against a brick wall.
Have a great day.
Obviously I read what you wrote.

You researched from a site storefront http://www.economicshelp.org/shop/ and continuously talked down to me citing "this is grade 10" economics.

You are correct in the effects of price indicator in the supply-demand scenarios you described, just incorrect that its inflation/deflation.

If your car or bike has a gear indicator, the demand for more speed caused the gears to rise as indicated.....the gears were not inflated.

define inflation Google:
in·fla·tion
inˈflāSH(ə)n/
noun
  1. 1.
    the action of inflating something or the condition of being inflated.
    "the inflation of a balloon"
  2. 2.
    ECONOMICS
    a general increase in prices and fall in the purchasing value of money.
    "policies aimed at controlling inflation"
Look duder, it's really no big deal, you and your sources are simply substituting def 1 for def 2 above.
Economic inflation is not blowing up a balloon....its a condition of making more balloons to the point they lose value.
 

NLXSK1

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Inflation is a good thing. Its what drives our stock markets, investments and the developer. Its also inevitable. Its why we buy houses and not rent them, its why we invest.

High inflation is bad, negative inflation is worse. A sustainable balance is needed and thats the job of the Fed Reserve and interest rate cuts/rises.
Inflation is a devaluation of the dollar and everones wages yet you think it is a good thing.

We need to elimiminate the fed and get rid of our debt.

There is no reason for inflation.

Housing prices are supply and demand and should not be used as an investment vehicle. What drives our stock market is divident payments and interest.
 

UncleBuck

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Inflation is a devaluation of the dollar and everones wages yet you think it is a good thing.

We need to elimiminate the fed and get rid of our debt.

There is no reason for inflation.

Housing prices are supply and demand and should not be used as an investment vehicle. What drives our stock market is divident payments and interest.
you are the king of ralphonomics.

 

Fogdog

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Inflation is rising prices and devalued currency simultaneously. And operator, not or operator....both sides must be true, not just one side. A price increase is not inflation.

Inflation and deflation are of supplies. You can't inflate an indicator.
You can change an indicator by changing a supply or demand.
Your oil light in your Pinto that you drive does not actually add or remove oil from your Pinto.

In your precious example above, you described supply and demand price increases with fixed supply of currency.

Then accurately described inflation....except with consumer bank loans...they don't really devalue currency unless they default. Theory is as long as they're repaid they're creating goods and services and balance expansion.
You don't get to make up your own economic theories. People write books on this, you know. Have fun in your trailer.
 

twostrokenut

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You don't get to make up your own economic theories. People write books on this, you know. Have fun in your trailer.
Lol

From one of my favorite Jewish economists...I think if you choose not to read it, it makes you an antisemite according to the resident trolls......

Unfortunately, in the United States, as well as in other countries, some people prefer to attribute the cause of inflation not to an increase in the quantity of money but, rather, to the rise in prices.

However, there has never been any serious argument against the economic interpretation of the relationship between prices and the quantity of money, or the exchange ratio between money and other goods, commodities, and services. Under present-day technological conditions there is nothing easier than to manufacture pieces of paper upon which certain monetary amounts are printed. In the United States, where all the notes are of the same size, it does not cost the government more to print a bill of a thousand dollars than it does to print a bill of one dollar. It is purely a printing procedure that requires the same quantity of paper and ink.

There can be no secret way to the solution of the financial problems of a government; if it needs money, it has to obtain the money by taxing its citizens (or, under special conditions, by borrowing it from people who have the money). But many governments, we can even say most governments, think there is another method for getting the needed money; simply to print it.

If the government wants to do something beneficial — if, for example, it wants to build a hospital — the way to find the needed money for this project is to tax the citizens and build the hospital out of tax revenues. Then no special "price revolution" will occur, because when the government collects money for the construction of the hospital, the citizens — having paid the taxes — are forced to reduce their spending. The individual taxpayer is forced to restrict either his consumption, his investments, or his savings. The government, appearing on the market as a buyer, replaces the individual citizen: the citizen buys less, but the government buys more. The government, of course, does not always buy the same goods which the citizens would have bought; but on the average there occurs no rise in prices due to the government's construction of a hospital.

I choose this example of a hospital precisely because people sometimes say, "It makes a difference whether the government uses its money for good or for bad purposes." I want to assume that the government always uses the money which it has printed for the best possible purposes — purposes with which we all agree. For it is not the way in which the money is spent, it is the way in which the government obtains this money that brings about those consequences we call inflation and which most people in the world today do not consider as beneficial.
 
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UncleBuck

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Lol

From one of my favorite Jewish economists...I think if you choose not to read it, it makes you an antisemite according to the resident trolls......

Unfortunately, in the United States, as well as in other countries, some people prefer to attribute the cause of inflation not to an increase in the quantity of money but, rather, to the rise in prices.

However, there has never been any serious argument against the economic interpretation of the relationship between prices and the quantity of money, or the exchange ratio between money and other goods, commodities, and services. Under present-day technological conditions there is nothing easier than to manufacture pieces of paper upon which certain monetary amounts are printed. In the United States, where all the notes are of the same size, it does not cost the government more to print a bill of a thousand dollars than it does to print a bill of one dollar. It is purely a printing procedure that requires the same quantity of paper and ink.

There can be no secret way to the solution of the financial problems of a government; if it needs money, it has to obtain the money by taxing its citizens (or, under special conditions, by borrowing it from people who have the money). But many governments, we can even say most governments, think there is another method for getting the needed money; simply to print it.

If the government wants to do something beneficial — if, for example, it wants to build a hospital — the way to find the needed money for this project is to tax the citizens and build the hospital out of tax revenues. Then no special "price revolution" will occur, because when the government collects money for the construction of the hospital, the citizens — having paid the taxes — are forced to reduce their spending. The individual taxpayer is forced to restrict either his consumption, his investments, or his savings. The government, appearing on the market as a buyer, replaces the individual citizen: the citizen buys less, but the government buys more. The government, of course, does not always buy the same goods which the citizens would have bought; but on the average there occurs no rise in prices due to the government's construction of a hospital.

I choose this example of a hospital precisely because people sometimes say, "It makes a difference whether the government uses its money for good or for bad purposes." I want to assume that the government always uses the money which it has printed for the best possible purposes — purposes with which we all agree. For it is not the way in which the money is spent, it is the way in which the government obtains this money that brings about those consequences we call inflation and which most people in the world today do not consider as beneficial.
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