the 2020 democratic candidate (and VP)

Fogdog said:

I generated a map that was completely wrong as well. Just saying that if somebody put a gun to my head and asked, I'd have predicted a win for Clinton but I knew that the odds were not bad for a Trump win. It was a head vs heart kind of thing too.

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Fogdog said:

I generated a map that was completely wrong as well. Just saying that if somebody put a gun to my head and asked, I'd have predicted a win for Clinton but I knew that the odds were not bad for a Trump win. It was a head vs heart kind of thing too.

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Tim Fox said:

I was very surprised at the overall effect of Fake News,, they ate it up,, and re posted it left and right,, it was strartling

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Fogdog said:

In an interview with a person who ran a fake news group out of a home in southern cali, he said the Trump followers and right wingers in general ran with their stories. When they tried to make up news for liberals, they didn't take the bait.

We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs?sc=17&f=

When did you notice that fake news does best with Trump supporters?

Well, this isn't just a Trump-supporter problem. This is a right-wing issue. Sarah Palin's famous blasting of the lamestream media is kind of record and testament to the rise of these kinds of people. The post-fact era is what I would refer to it as. This isn't something that started with Trump. This is something that's been in the works for a while. His whole campaign was this thing of discrediting mainstream media sources, which is one of those dog whistles to his supporters. When we were coming up with headlines it's always kind of about the red meat. Trump really got into the red meat. He knew who his base was. He knew how to feed them a constant diet of this red meat.

We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.

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spandy said:

But you weren't one of the loud members who was walking around with a Clinton mop looking for Trumpers.

I would have bet money on a Hillary win if I would have had to also. I really didn't think Trump was gonna pull it off.

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Tim Fox said:

the whole thing makes me ILL, and you pegged it,, and yet they are happy with it,, really strange

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Fogdog said:

In an interview with a person who ran a fake news group out of a home in southern cali, he said the Trump followers and right wingers in general ran with their stories. When they tried to make up news for liberals, they didn't take the bait.

We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs?sc=17&f=

When did you notice that fake news does best with Trump supporters?

Well, this isn't just a Trump-supporter problem. This is a right-wing issue. Sarah Palin's famous blasting of the lamestream media is kind of record and testament to the rise of these kinds of people. The post-fact era is what I would refer to it as. This isn't something that started with Trump. This is something that's been in the works for a while. His whole campaign was this thing of discrediting mainstream media sources, which is one of those dog whistles to his supporters. When we were coming up with headlines it's always kind of about the red meat. Trump really got into the red meat. He knew who his base was. He knew how to feed them a constant diet of this red meat.

We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.

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Fogdog said:

In an interview with a person who ran a fake news group out of a home in southern cali, he said the Trump followers and right wingers in general ran with their stories. When they tried to make up news for liberals, they didn't take the bait.

We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs?sc=17&f=

When did you notice that fake news does best with Trump supporters?

Well, this isn't just a Trump-supporter problem. This is a right-wing issue. Sarah Palin's famous blasting of the lamestream media is kind of record and testament to the rise of these kinds of people. The post-fact era is what I would refer to it as. This isn't something that started with Trump. This is something that's been in the works for a while. His whole campaign was this thing of discrediting mainstream media sources, which is one of those dog whistles to his supporters. When we were coming up with headlines it's always kind of about the red meat. Trump really got into the red meat. He knew who his base was. He knew how to feed them a constant diet of this red meat.

We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.

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ttystikk said:

I listened to this article when it first aired on NPR. Right wingers are vulnerable to fake news.

FOX NEWS is the winner of a lawsuit that attempted to hold them accountable for the truth of their stories. That is, they won the 'right' to call themselves a news channel and still air falsehoods.

These two data points, taken together, explain a lot about the right to me.

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ttystikk said:

I'm still holding out for Bernie.

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Tim Fox said:

my boy is 19,, he was a huge bernie fan,, i know he and most of his friends ended up not voting for anyone when Bernie did not get the nod,,, sadly,, the younger folks loved him

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ttystikk said:

Your son and people like him would have propelled Bernie to victory.

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spandy said:

You keep hoping he gets impeached and I'll keep enjoying watching the tears fall every day he isn't.

Although as for as entertainment value goes, I dont feel a re-election will be as enjoyable to see as it was watching him knock Hillary off the throne during her premature inauguration. Guess that just depends on how "sure" the left is of a win in 2020. Man, they sure thought they had this round in the bag.

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spandy said:

Trump will get re-elected.

Who wants to bet their account? Oh wait, thats right. It would be an empty handed bet coming from this group.

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Padawanbater2 said:

He will be, because the democrats refuse to remove their heads from their assholes in favor of their corporate masters!

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spandy said:

But you weren't one of the loud members who was walking around with a Clinton mop looking for Trumpers.

I would have bet money on a Hillary win if I would have had to also. I really didn't think Trump was gonna pull it off.

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Fogdog said:

I did my best to be annoying. Made it on more than a few ignored lists. (rubs hands together in satisfaction)

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