The Art of The Auto

hoss12781 said:

Snow Ryder was OK indica buzz, good taste but not knock you out of the park stoned. Auto Assassin lives up to its name in spades. Hearty plant, great resin production, and a strong sativa hit. Every AA I've grown has yielded at least 1.25 oz, on my last run I had a 60 gram monster but that was after I switched to larger 16 inch pots.

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What lighting and growing medium are you using? I decided to get Onyx and Blue Himalaya Diesel now that there back in stock. Im gonna wait till the 3rd to order my seeds from attitude because they are having a huge seed give away, 8 free seeds not including the ufo seeds. Cant wait to get them along with a new 400W, it's gonna be awesome!

I use Miracle Grow Moisture Control Potting Soil in 16 in pots, about a gallon and a half (I can see in my crystal ball right now someone will shit on me for using it - but hey Miracle Grow works very well for me). I'm currently running a 400w HPS with 400W mixed spectrum CFLS (the big 105 watters). In my state 4 plants is a misdemeanor and 5 is a felony so I keep to 4, and typically have two large ones in flowering and two babies at any given time. Trimming is KEY during the first month and a half- you'll want to trim the fan leaves and set up the CFLS as side lighting to ensure the first 3-4 nodes grow out and up. This is how I manage to get stellar harvests off dwarf plants. I also use Fox Farms Big Bloom mixed with purified water. I am stuck on Short Stuff Seeds - been using them for the last year and a half, they always germ (90% plus), and the smoke is always above average to devastating. IMO MI-5 and Auto-Assassin are the best. Haven't tried Onyx, but just cut down a 50G Blue Himalaya plant. Its pretty heady

I am sold on the short stuff as well. I picked the twenty seed mix and ten blue himalayan diesels after that. they have all been healthy full plants that grew like they were supposed to. these were just a couple of them. I have been told by the breeder that the flash seeds are his line as well.

My little auto just took off and is looking incredible now. its at exactly 30 days old now and its budding like crazy.
One of my question is should I cut away any shade leaves to expose some of the lower buds more? I have done it a little but stopped.




Its looking real nice under my full spectrum lights.

also what is the average life span of a Lowlife auto? 60 days? i want some serious buds from this beauty

Tucsonlongbuds said:

My little auto just took off and is looking incredible now. its at exactly 30 days old now and its budding like crazy.
One of my question is should I cut away any shade leaves to expose some of the lower buds more? I have done it a little but stopped.

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Its looking real nice under my full spectrum lights.

also what is the average life span of a Lowlife auto? 60 days? i want some serious buds from this beauty

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I would leave the leaves alone. They are the plants store of energy. I have found that mine need a full ten weeks to reach their full potential.

I seen a few people on here have grown double diesel ryders and have some myself, but they seem to be f*ing with me and would like to have some input on them. They are 4 weeks old and showed sex at week 3 so its been a week since preflowers. Running 400w HPS on 18/6. How much longer should I wait to flip to 12/12, if indeed they are not auto's. 2 have looked like they are going to flower for a 4-5 days now, but nothing. I have read some taking as long as 5-7 weeks to flower though too. Camera battery died so this is all I was able to get for pics.

Joe Blow Fo Sho said:

I seen a few people on here have grown double diesel ryders and have some myself, but they seem to be f*ing with me and would like to have some input on them. They are 4 weeks old and showed sex at week 3 so its been a week since preflowers. Running 400w HPS on 18/6. How much longer should I wait to flip to 12/12, if indeed they are not auto's. 2 have looked like they are going to flower for a 4-5 days now, but nothing. I have read some taking as long as 5-7 weeks to flower though too. Camera battery died so this is all I was able to get for pics.

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If some of them are sexed leave them on the 18/6. They look like they are getting ready to pop. In my experience the ones that take longer to show get bigger in the end, and yield a lot more. If you don't have little clusters of hairs starting to form buds in a week or two switch to 12/12. If you don't have to go 12/12 don't, it will only hurt your yield.

teflondummy said:

If some of them are sexed leave them on the 18/6. They look like they are getting ready to pop. In my experience the ones that take longer to show get bigger in the end, and yield a lot more. If you don't have little clusters of hairs starting to form buds in a week or two switch to 12/12. If you don't have to go 12/12 don't, it will only hurt your yield.

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Thanks thats what I was hoping. I will leave them and see what happens and keep ya posted it anything changes. They have grown quite a bit here in the last week or so I hope it is soon. I was going to start my green-o-matic sometime thats why I was itching to go to 12/12, but I will just do a second room for them and let these go. Thanks for the input.

Hey! Its taken me 5+ days to read this thread front to back and I wish it would never end! Beauty plants and lots of great info! Thought Id share a pic or two of my current project. Its Lowryder#2xAurora Indica. Not 100% stabilized but getting there. She is fully seeded and scheduled for chop chop on march 12th. Let me know what you think!

looks like it is going to be a frosty little bush.

pretty bad ass blue, nice work. How many runs to make it stable?

youre so lucky that it worked like that, my top 69 autoflower is budding right now on 12/12 because after 5 weeks its was almost 2 foot tall without even pistils on it.And this is one of the bag seeds its 12/12ing with

Thanks hoss! You sure dont hear enough good praise for the hard work we all do in this hobby!! This is my 5th generation and actually my first seed run using an auto male and female from the 4th generation. I still get lots that wont flower under 24 hour lighting but all in due time. My auto durban poisons are much more stable but I still get 1 in 15 or so that wont auto for me. Soon the kinks will be smoothed out, I hope.

StickyRes- Nice lookin ladies you got there! I understand your frustration with a non auto-ing auto. ( Is that even a word?? lol) Give it time and with the right breeding techniques you will get them were you want. I dont call myself a seed breeder nor do I think id even be capable of competing with some of the finest out there. I just do what I do live my life and most of all enjoy our favorite hobby!!! Hopefully if all goes well this fall I will have some nice gifts to share just in time for thanksgiving, now what a better time peace and love LBE <3

teflondummy said:

If some of them are sexed leave them on the 18/6. They look like they are getting ready to pop. In my experience the ones that take longer to show get bigger in the end, and yield a lot more. If you don't have little clusters of hairs starting to form buds in a week or two switch to 12/12. If you don't have to go 12/12 don't, it will only hurt your yield.

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Yep sure enough they had to show me up right as I felt like they weren't going to do anything like my Afghan Kush Ryder. They are all currently flowering right now and are growing very rapidly. Funny it wasn't more than a day or so after the post they started flowering too.

whats up everyone

chopped my dinafem roadrunner lastnight. finished on day 48. not much of a root system. wet weight was 23 grams. not much but itll be tasy. plant still flowering is nirvana bue mystic. seedling is flash seeds purple mazar auto. grew under 1 125w 2700k and 2 13w 6500k.

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I just ordered 10 Blue Himalaya Diesel, 10 Onyx, and 10 Auto Assasin all from short stuff seeds. For lighting I will have 2 400 watt hps, and for soil FF happy frog and FF light warrior. This will be my first auto grow and I can't wait! If anyone has any grow tips for these strains it would be greatly appreciated + Rep.

I've grown both Auto Assassin and BHD, some advice - don't worry about giving heavy nutes to the HBD it doesn't need more than a 1/2 dose. The AA however have all tending to develop nutrient deficiencies towards the end of flowering unless I feed 'em heavy (the smoke on the AA is super heady by the way). Trim branch leaves when they appear to be blocking the light/growth of flowering nodes and use CFLS to train the branches to grow out not up. You'll be pleasantly surprised and should pull at least a zip off each one. Cheers!

How long does it take to grow the auto assassin from start to finish?

i know this is a noob question: what or how much is a zip.

Thought i would throw my plant out there. Its a Dinafem Haze auto.

She is 31 days old today. Growing in biobizz under 125w 2700k cfl.