The Beatles

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to WhatAmIDoing again"

awww...well, thanks for the thought

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WhatAmIDoing said:

Allright, I'll agree with you that they weren't the only ones who influenced Rock. But if you can find one that was BIGGER, I'd like to hear it. THAT's my point. And, the use of reverse tracks, slowing and speeding up sounds, etc. was all them. they were creative, inventive, and did it because they loved it, not for the money. UNLIKE N'sync and all those "boy bands".

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I'll concede that The Beatles were a much more influential band than N'Sync. I liked your point that The Beatles weren't influenced by corporate greed. I personally don't like them, but I'm not going to deny that their popularity obviously means that they were a good band.

donnieosmond said:

I'll concede that The Beatles were a much more influential band than N'Sync. I liked your point that The Beatles weren't influenced by corporate greed. I personally don't like them, but I'm not going to deny that their popularity obviously means that they were a good band.

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A relevant fact relating the Beatles to not being sucked into corporate greed: their first record contract? A penny for each record sold. And that was to be split amongst the four Beatles (a farthing a piece). Had they shipped records outside of the UK, they got a half penny per record, and even THAT had to be split four ways.

Even George Martin said that was the worst record deal he's ever heard of.

KeeferSutherlandFTW said:

A relevant fact relating the Beatles to not being sucked into corporate greed: their first record contract? A penny for each record sold. And that was to be split amongst the four Beatles (a farthing a piece). Had they shipped records outside of the UK, they got a half penny per record, and even THAT had to be split four ways.

Even George Martin said that was the worst record deal he's ever heard of.

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Just goes to show that if you love it, just do it man.

ps. how'd you get that smiley to do that?

The soulja boy?

the only persont to have really changed music, was elvis. the beatles played music that people liked at the time just like any band does. music changes with time. if you really want to get into I believe nirvana had a bigger impact than the beatles ever did. nirvava is the only reason we have music like we do now.

But how did Nirvana ever come about without the Beatles? They are the foundation on which all modern rock music is built off of. They basically 'invented' the distortion pedal when they recorded 'Helter Skelter'

I'm sorry, Nirvana was good but their legacy is falling way short of where everyone thinks they are. Where is their sonic influence seriously apparent presently?

diehlerman said:

the only persont to have really changed music, was elvis. the beatles played music that people liked at the time just like any band does. music changes with time. if you really want to get into I believe nirvana had a bigger impact than the beatles ever did. nirvava is the only reason we have music like we do now.

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switch "NIRVANA" and "the Beatles" in that sentence and it'll make sense.

well in my opinion...for what it's worth. The Beatles were the 1st to change the sappy roll& roll that was going on at the time. They were even apart of it. But they changed the way rock was wrote and recorded as they matured. They left the beach boys et al behind.

Then came the 70's with the ever so boring art rock of the moody blues and Genisis....with more and more bands coming along, sounding the same. Alas...punk arrived in the late 70's. Sure it was shit musicianship....but they made the record companies get off their fat asses and take notice. Kids were buyin it...and they were goin to the shows. Guitars and rock was back!

Then the 80's....lots of electronic be bop music...and no new rock on the horizon...until grunge with Nirvana. They brought back good ol rock and roll. This time with the punk attitude...but they could write quality songs and play fairly tight.

Of course now we are stuck with the same shit played over and over again...with no relief in sight. I can't stand (C)rap music, I can't stand hip hop, I can't stand R&B.....and these bands that are out now that play rock are nothing more than knockoff bands from earlier rock. It;s a shame. Very few good ones now. Spoon and Decemberists come to mind right off the top of of my head as a couple of good ones out there today.

Drink!

I can't stand hip hop

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That's unfortunate Father Jack. Listen to some Binkis Recs, Wu-Tang, Immortal Technique, KRS-one, Floyd the Locsmif...it will probably change your feelings about that.

Completely different animal than the rap we hear on the radio.

Nirvana didn't change anything. In fact the only thing grunge proved was that distortion and self loathing sound great on heroin.

truth. +1 for the pumpkin dude.

dankie said:

Nirvana didn't change anything. In fact the only thing grunge proved was that distortion and self loathing sound great on heroin.

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I was speaking in terms of the industry...not someones taste in music. Nirvana did what punk did. It got the records companies attention....the downside being we ended up with a tom of grunge wannabes....but at least it brought guitars and emotion back into rock music.

Drink!

dankie said:

Nirvana didn't change anything. In fact the only thing grunge proved was that distortion and self loathing sound great on heroin.

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LOL!!!! You are awesome. That was the best sentence ever.

Next stop........ emo nation.

My Chem/Hawthorne for the loss!!!

[cut my wrists and black my eyeeees...RUBBISH!!]

Ya know.... my lawn is emo. Lucky for me though. It cuts itself.

donnieosmond said:

Ya know.... my lawn is emo. Lucky for me though. It cuts itself.

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Ohhhhhh...raped!

diehlerman said:

the only persont to have really changed music, was elvis. the beatles played music that people liked at the time just like any band does. music changes with time. if you really want to get into I believe nirvana had a bigger impact than the beatles ever did. nirvava is the only reason we have music like we do now.

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The Beatles began as a pop group. but then they moved to what they wanted to make, not really caring much about public opinion, it just so happened that the public loved it. and yeah. Nirvana...I dunno. I missed taht stage of music entirely. So i don't feel qualified ot comment.