The behavior of the right vs the behavior of the left, a study in contrast.

FreedomWorks

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Anarchism is not synonymous with lawlessness. It isn't mutually exclusive either, but certainly not synonymous. Anarchy is misused in modern vernacular however, which may be why you have that impression. Anarchism means no rulers, no lords, no archy.

"The more laws, the less justice." ~Cicero
Are we going to keep dancing around in circles? You don't seem to advocate much, but instead criticize other people. You do know George Orwell is a fiction writer right? I think you both have private capitalism mixed up with crony capitalism. Its not always the same thing.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Are we going to keep dancing around in circles? You don't seem to advocate much, but instead criticize other people. You do know George Orwell is a fiction writer write? I think you both have private capitalism mixed up with crony capitalism. Its not always the same thing.
There's a shitload he doesn't know about Orwell... Get used to dancing around meanings and ideologies with this one... He is known far and wide for this...
 

abandonconflict

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Are we going to keep dancing around in circles? You don't seem to advocate much, but instead criticize other people. You do know George Orwell is a fiction writer write? I think you both have private capitalism mixed up with crony capitalism. Its not always the same thing.
To the bolded, yes that is absolutely correct.

As for Orwell, he wrote more nonfiction than fiction, and my sig comes from one of his nonfiction works.

As for "crony capitalism", that is the only kind of capitalism. All capitalism is crony.
 

FreedomWorks

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To the bolded, yes that is absolutely correct.

As for Orwell, he wrote more nonfiction than fiction, and my sig comes from one of his nonfiction works.

As for "crony capitalism", that is the only kind of capitalism. All capitalism is crony.
capitalism is a social system founded on individual rights and liberties. What is so evil about Capitalism, except when lobbyist in Washington push an agenda that is against the best interest of Americans? It isn't the free market that gives Capitalism a bad name; its our government.
 

abandonconflict

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capitalism is a social system founded on individual rights and liberties. What is so evil about Capitalism, except when lobbyist in Washington push an agenda that is against the best interest of Americans? It isn't the free market that gives Capitalism a bad name; its our government.
Capitalism is a social system founded on private ownership of what is the heritage of all. It is founded on inequality and on liberty not for all, but for some.

Liberty is not property.

The gov't exists to protect private property.
 

FreedomWorks

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Capitalism is a social system founded on private ownership of what is the heritage of all. It is founded on inequality and on liberty not for all, but for some.

Liberty is not property.

The gov't exists to protect private property.
It doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't add up, then I've gotta ask questions. How can private property rights exist without liberty? How can liberty exist without private property rights? Its almost like you're half way there, but some sort of glitch is holding you back.
 

FreedomWorks

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The gov't exists to protect private property.
If the gov't exists to protect private property, then how come they are confiscating wealth on a daily basis? Either through eminent domain, tax code, or some other type of fee license or regulation they put in place? It looks to me like the government is more interested in seizing property, than it is in protecting it.
 

UncleBuck

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If the gov't exists to protect private property, then how come they are confiscating wealth on a daily basis? Either through eminent domain, tax code, or some other type of fee license or regulation they put in place? It looks to me like the government is more interested in seizing property, than it is in protecting it.
your paycheck isn't completely private property if you sign a W2 authorizing the government to take taxes out of it beforehand.

and regulations? what the fuck do those have to do with seizing private property? requiring a restaurant to keep their meats stored at a certain temperature or a contractor to place outlets a certain number of feet from a water source is a completely retarded thing to bring up in a discussion of seizing/protecting private property.

but then again, you are the only white person in stockton.
 

UncleBuck

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It doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't add up, then I've gotta ask questions. How can private property rights exist without liberty? How can liberty exist without private property rights? Its almost like you're half way there, but some sort of glitch is holding you back.
no matter how many times you keep saying "liberty" and "freedom", it won't you seem any smarter or add any coherence to your dimwitted arguments.
 

UncleBuck

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Liberty and freedom are over rated, and anybody who complains about being coerced by the government to sign over their paycheck to the government is a "whiny little bitch" according to buck. I find it interesting how CreateConflict attacks people with the “statist” label, but doesn't seem to recognize a big government Marxist buck with his ideology exposed right here in front him. Attack other people calling us statists, while at the same time siding with a statist. I guess that makes CreateConflict a punk ass little bitch. There is no other explanation.
no one is ever coerced into signing a W2 or not. it is a voluntarily decision made by consenting adults.
 

Rob Roy

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people who don't sign W2s don't get killed or beaten to a pulp or mildly roughed up or threatened in any way. they just walk away and carry on with their lives, unharmed.

so much for duress you whiny bitch.

They are prevented from engaging in many kinds of labor exchanges UNLESS they comply. Also potential employers are threatened to ensure that they keep all the slaves "in the system" . If despite the threats, the free person engages in a labor exchange with an employer and neither or both of them have filled out the magic paperwork, what happens to them? Are they harmed? Indeed, they are. There's the duress.
 

abandonconflict

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Liberty and freedom are over rated, and anybody who complains about being coerced by the government to sign over their paycheck to the government is a "whiny little bitch" according to buck. I find it interesting how CreateConflict attacks people with the “statist” label, but doesn't seem to recognize a big government Marxist buck with his ideology exposed right here in front him. Attack other people calling us statists, while at the same time siding with a statist. I guess that makes CreateConflict a punk ass little bitch. There is no other explanation.
UB knows he is a statist. You're the one calling yourself a libertarian, you're actually a republican.
 

abandonconflict

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They are prevented from engaging in many kinds of labor exchanges UNLESS they comply. Also potential employers are threatened to ensure that they keep all the slaves "in the system" . If despite the threats, the free person engages in a labor exchange with an employer and neither or both of them have filled out the magic paperwork, what happens to them? Are they harmed? Indeed, they are. There's the duress.
Praxeology is apparently making you immune to logic.

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