The Chaos Theory

This is something that has always interested me.

What does everyone else think? Are we living in a predetermined world?
Is it possible to use the theory on a global scale?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

Well, isn't this science? And the theory is not really about Chaos.

So, link this in your mind with the idea of a quantum field? Quantum theory in part is based on the Heisenberg Principles about non-local, non-temporal, non-causal, Observable and Repeatable phenomena.

It was said by it's creators, Heisenberg and Schrodinger, in a famous math debate they won, that the human mind cannot comprehend probability waves. No way to imagine position but exclude direction for an atomic particle like an electron. We know it can never be still. And alas if we want vector we must exclude position. No sub-atomic entity can exhibit both at the same time. Weird.

IAC, the math is quite solid now but, the hunt for the Weird Field still needs the definition of hunt.

The idea in the math is that a constant balance of energy is happening without regard to time or space. And it is theoretically possible to separate the pairs. Quantum Pairs define things like where and when. And these then, can act at a "distance" (time even) through "entanglement." Laser experiment have proved so dramatic that it is a sure bet the military is working on instant communication quantum channels. Oh yes, Bones. Sub-space comms.

So, there has not been an observable butterfly sneeze event or anything like Chaos math....surprise me?

But, I think it is a quantum effect that can be theorized about.

ricky1lung said:

This is something that has always interested me.

What does everyone else think? Are we living in a predetermined world?
Is it possible to use the theory on a global scale?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

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You really cannot connect quantum mechanics with destiny. At least this what read like to that you are trying to do. Chaos Theory, to me explains how atoms, and gravity and all others come together as pure random chaotic forms, the environment at the time determining in what can be formed. Think big bang and the next billion years or so as our universe formed from just random particles, depending on where and what would equal your outcome. It's a chaotic when you get to particle physics, its pure randomness, such as a single neutron being observed in two places at the same time, but also can act differently just by being observed.

There is no such thing as destiny (Imo)

Right. It is much more like continuous and spontaneous creation, than a fate ordained timeline.

And if SELF is creating it for myself to enjoy and that is all that it is, I'm fine with that.

What I am asking is if you believe the theory could be used to create a scenario with a predetermined outcome through a series of seemingly unrelated events.
Operational Deception as you put it in another thread Doer.

I don't mean fate, destiny or anything like that.

do you mean like saying there is a point A and a point Z and it has to start at A and end at Z but the rest of the alphabet can be in any order with numbers or jews or tortoises or annunaki or comedy bang! bang! or whatever you wanna add in as long as it ends at Z ?

I believe its possible and happens everyday. Hasn't your Mom when you where a kid told you not to do something or something bad was going to happen. Example... my uncle gave me a pocket knife. My Grandmother told me not to mess with it because I would cut my finger off. I be damned if not a week later she proved to be right. That's what I call Mommy vision. Some how they just know. I also believe that some things are destined to happen.

I recommend playing "Dark side of the moon" one more time....

ricky1lung said:

What I am asking is if you believe the theory could be used to create a scenario with a predetermined outcome through a series of seemingly unrelated events.
Operational Deception as you put it in another thread Doer.

I don't mean fate, destiny or anything like that.

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Well, I see. If you can get laser pair to stay paired over more than a building away, that would certainly fuck with the timeline.

Right, now, a building away, if I arrange the signal, to you, is let's say, a downshift and then an upshift of frequency in the laser you are observing. And when IT happens, I do that to my laser to send the signal to you. Woopie, we have cell phones.

But, if I was on Mars I could inform you instantly through Morse code, up up, down down down up down down up. IT happened. SELL everything! No one else will know for almost 20 minutes I think it is. We could make a Killing.

Or you could use that to make a killing....really. And get away with it. Perfect alibi. How could you know? OK, C-Theory attempt to make a mathmatics that can model complex, un-predictiable systems...oh, like savage, shinny monkeys?

So, it is two tracks. C-math could predict these tiny lever points, perhaps. And the causal quantum pair perhaps is un-coupled in time as usual state and our Observation again is the only thing that fixes a Now, and Past, Future, etc.

If we can discover, manufacture, set, hunt up or otherwise find a way to experiment with causal pairs we can perhaps address the lever point directly, "back in time" and thus cause the butterfly to sneeze and understand how that will kill Jung Il's grandfather.

Is that want you mean?

hypothetically there are sources. there are organisms who feed off these sources. the sources are fed by the interactions of these organisms. 4-1 1-12

UH? A monkey playing a jaw harp...I got that. What was the other stuff? Organisms absorb quantum pairs?

Fascinating. What are the numbers then?

Its called the chaos theory because they managed to notice a reoccurring patterns of similar events, in a situation which seems impossible for them to entirely understand, therefore in their minds the puzzle of the theory is chaotic.
One day when people figure out how to figure it out, they will figure it out and it will be called something else, Not the chaos theory.

Can we predict things? Of course we can, we do it all the time. Some of us do it better than others though.. Like me I predict..... a violent outlash from somebody in the cheap seats

Then why the constant fail?

if you could see as far into the future/past as you wanted, do anything you wanted, live in a world of thought, would you?

No, I've thought about this one as well. Everywhere we go it is just Now and SELF. In the past or the future, same thing.

And the inability to never turn from nurture to destruction, has never shown itself. Ero, somethings never change. Somethings are just lipstick on a pig. Most things, I guess.

Let's go back to those numbers and consciousness absorbing qauntum pairs to gain locality and causality.

What is that? It sounds very real to me.

whatever is most comfortable to your consciousness

karousing said:

whatever is most comfortable to your consciousness

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Knock off the tap dancing. I'm asking about those numbers? I'm asking for a bit more explanation of what could be a very important concept for me...

"Why the constant fail"? Well here's an answer for you to ponder upon doer. Your negative attitude sucks, it FAILS one could say; Why is that?

2xcharming said:

I believe its possible and happens everyday. Hasn't your Mom when you where a kid told you not to do something or something bad was going to happen. Example... my uncle gave me a pocket knife. My Grandmother told me not to mess with it because I would cut my finger off. I be damned if not a week later she proved to be right. That's what I call Mommy vision. Some how they just know. I also believe that some things are destined to happen.

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Don't you get some mommie vision on the battlefield also? I get the joke.

But, sound like you've seen the elephant. Say what about if she told you?...., yeah, just open it up and run it across your finger until it bleeds.....go ahead....do it.

MY mom was a true witch and everyone that knew her could see it. She had a type of second sight. I can't deny it. The calls at night when damn if I didn't just wreak my bicycle and have a 3rd degree road burn. Heard me moaning? Also, the casual mention of things...what? It is how moms roll.

There is the quantum thing were it all may come together. Finding the Higgs field is good. Where to look for the Quantum Field? It can only be right now. Around here somewhere maybe.

And rick, I think it is possible. Some claim to do it, have it, etc. Far vision has been shown in some cases but who can believe anything anymore.

I really mean we could have had breakthroughs that separate timelines, access far energies, nearby and indeed do a little tinkering with our own timeline. Are there? Is this why we craw about Iran's nukes and do nothing? Why would they tell us?

karousing said:

if you could see as far into the future/past as you wanted, do anything you wanted, live in a world of thought, would you?

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Not only no but hell no. Knowing what the future holds for yourself and the ones you love could be devastating. You might not like what you see. This is the one time, I would rather keep my head in the sand.