myrevolution4
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All I did was post the article and then when the only replies were hes racist I said he is an intelligent man. Which he is.
The Confederacy and Fallacy of Federal Liberty
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myrevolution4
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Obviously to you and most people here being proud to be white is a white supremacist. Have fun voting for a Pro-black Obama.
7xstall
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i disagree with the idea that you are the company you keep, there is a mental transition which we must purposefully undertake before we become anything other than what we are. some very intelligent people are going to hold views very different from yours and mine. that's the beauty of this life, the idealogical landscape is like a beautiful garden. there are snakes, there are briars, but there are also flowers. you can't have one without the other.
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LoudBlunts
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yea.... its offical.....
you really dont read. you just pull shit out of your ass.
who in the hell said im voting for Obama, obviously you dont read.
second....what the fuck does 'pro-black' have shit to do with?
you really dont read. you just pull shit out of your ass.
who in the hell said im voting for Obama, obviously you dont read.
second....what the fuck does 'pro-black' have shit to do with?
myrevolution4
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second....what the fuck does 'pro-black' have shit to do with?[/quote]
You call me racist for being Pro-white.
You call me racist for being Pro-white.
LoudBlunts
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you have two teenagers... one hangs out with gang affiliated members. the other teenager hangs out with the 'popular' crowd in school....
who's more likely to be the next gangmember and who's more likely to become the popular one?
please dont sugarcoat. it isnt becoming!
LoudBlunts
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you say very intelligent people are going to hold views very different from yours and mines..... and i have absolutely NO PROBLEM WITH IT, in fact i encourage it.
but when you start thinking, belittling, judging, discriminating, saying hateful ignorant things just because you can....
that is when your intelligence card goes out the window....sorry my friend...
but when you start thinking, belittling, judging, discriminating, saying hateful ignorant things just because you can....
that is when your intelligence card goes out the window....sorry my friend...
7xstall
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didn't you know that can get you in trouble?
speaking of Growing Marijuana - i bet a lot of states would get out of the doctor-patient relationship and decriminalize cannabis IF the feds weren't terrorists...
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medicineman
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treated them far better than the modern corporations treat the average blue collar worker.
You may have a point there.
You may have a point there.
mockingbird131313
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My two points were that slavery was bad, but, freedom was often, as you said, "fucking inhumane".
ccodiane
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In a letter to his friend Joshua Speed, Lincoln freely expressed his hatred of slavery but he did not recommend immediate emancipation.
August 24, 1855
You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. So far there is no cause of difference. But you say that sooner than yield your legal right to the slave -- especially at the bidding of those who are not themselves interested, you would see the Union dissolved. I am not aware that any one is bidding you to yield that right; very certainly I am not. I leave that matter entirely to yourself. I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations, under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrewarded toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair to you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the constitution and the Union.
I do oppose the extension of slavery, because my judgment and feelings so prompt me; and I am under no obligation to the contrary.
In a letter to his friend Joshua Speed, Lincoln freely expressed his hatred of slavery but he did not recommend immediate emancipation.
August 24, 1855
You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. So far there is no cause of difference. But you say that sooner than yield your legal right to the slave -- especially at the bidding of those who are not themselves interested, you would see the Union dissolved. I am not aware that any one is bidding you to yield that right; very certainly I am not. I leave that matter entirely to yourself. I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations, under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrewarded toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair to you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the constitution and the Union.
I do oppose the extension of slavery, because my judgment and feelings so prompt me; and I am under no obligation to the contrary.
ccodiane
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Slavery in the North
[FONT=verdana, arial]"Slavery was still very much alive, and in some places even expanding, in the northern colonies of British North America in the generation before the American Revolution. The spirit of liberty in 1776 and the rhetoric of rebellion against tyranny made many Americans conscious of the hypocrisy of claiming natural human rights for themselves, while at the same time denying them to Africans. Nonetheless, most of the newly free states managed to postpone dealing with the issue of slavery, citing the emergency of the war with Britain.
[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial]That war, however, proved to be the real liberator of the northern slaves. Wherever it marched, the British army gave freedom to any slave who escaped within its lines. This was sound military policy: it disrupted the economic system that was sustaining the Revolution. Since the North saw much longer, and more extensive, incursions by British troops, its slave population drained away at a higher rate than the South's. At the same time, the governments in northern American states began to offer financial incentives to slaveowners who freed their black men, if the emancipated slaves then served in the state regiments fighting the British. [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, arial]When the Northern states gave up the last remnants of legal slavery, in the generation after the Revolution, their motives were a mix of piety, morality, and ethics; fear of a growing black population; practical economics; and the fact that the Revolutionary War had broken the Northern slaveowners' power and drained off much of the slave population. An exception was New Jersey, where the slave population actually increased during the war. Slavery lingered there until the Civil War, with the state reporting 236 slaves in 1850 and 18 as late as 1860.
[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial]The business of emancipation in the North amounted to the simple matters of, 1. determining how to compensate slaveowners for the few slaves they had left, and, 2. making sure newly freed slaves would be marginalized economically and politically in their home communities, and that nothing in the state's constitution would encourage fugitive slaves from elsewhere to settle there. [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, arial]But in the generally conservative, local process of emancipating a small number of Northern slaves, the Northern leadership turned its back on slavery as a national problem."
[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial]PS- This site has a wealth of info on northern slavery, great site........
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Slavery in the North
[FONT=verdana, arial]"Slavery was still very much alive, and in some places even expanding, in the northern colonies of British North America in the generation before the American Revolution. The spirit of liberty in 1776 and the rhetoric of rebellion against tyranny made many Americans conscious of the hypocrisy of claiming natural human rights for themselves, while at the same time denying them to Africans. Nonetheless, most of the newly free states managed to postpone dealing with the issue of slavery, citing the emergency of the war with Britain.
[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial]That war, however, proved to be the real liberator of the northern slaves. Wherever it marched, the British army gave freedom to any slave who escaped within its lines. This was sound military policy: it disrupted the economic system that was sustaining the Revolution. Since the North saw much longer, and more extensive, incursions by British troops, its slave population drained away at a higher rate than the South's. At the same time, the governments in northern American states began to offer financial incentives to slaveowners who freed their black men, if the emancipated slaves then served in the state regiments fighting the British. [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, arial]When the Northern states gave up the last remnants of legal slavery, in the generation after the Revolution, their motives were a mix of piety, morality, and ethics; fear of a growing black population; practical economics; and the fact that the Revolutionary War had broken the Northern slaveowners' power and drained off much of the slave population. An exception was New Jersey, where the slave population actually increased during the war. Slavery lingered there until the Civil War, with the state reporting 236 slaves in 1850 and 18 as late as 1860.
[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial]The business of emancipation in the North amounted to the simple matters of, 1. determining how to compensate slaveowners for the few slaves they had left, and, 2. making sure newly freed slaves would be marginalized economically and politically in their home communities, and that nothing in the state's constitution would encourage fugitive slaves from elsewhere to settle there. [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, arial]But in the generally conservative, local process of emancipating a small number of Northern slaves, the Northern leadership turned its back on slavery as a national problem."
[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial]PS- This site has a wealth of info on northern slavery, great site........
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