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are you watering them daily?

jelven said:

the seedlings i put in my hempy are all drooping and laying on the perlite and dying ):

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That's terrible. How old/big are they? Are you giving them each a small amount (1/2 cup) of water every day? I gave my seedlings a small amount of water every day for their first few days and then backed off to every 3 days when they got their second set of leaves. A few of mine were kneeling over for a couple days too but they pretty much came back and now they just have rams ears but are standing straight. Also, do you have a fan directly on them? If you do, you might consider turning it off for a couple of days for them to recooperate and also extend the period of darkness for a couple more hours a day for a few days. Good luck!

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OK, I been waiting for the scary face to jump out or the next page to say ...HAHA STONER got you this shit is FAKE, but this is really fucking real...???/ Ive looked elseware and Im still AMAZED...Screw my current Bubbling/drip floating tub hydroponic crap. I got going on....I am converting this over tomorrow to HEMPYs. Seriously this is exactly what a young cripple like me needs. An efficient way to only grow what I need for medicinal use... in a STEALTH and SAFE way.

So quick question for the Autoflowering and CFL users....or haters...

since I have to absolutely be stealth and grow in a small storage box. Could I theoretically say grow and use autoflowering AK47 /Hindu Kush in 36 oz cups the whole 9 weeks and im assuming I could also never even use more than 50% nute strength...if I control the watering and flushing cycles...

like such a small and fast plant cant need too god awful much....by the time they needs nutes after a couple weeks id already be into sexing and soon flowering and by the time its use to 50% nute water its half done with the lifespan....

Seriously I see myself in a small box having a dozen AUTOS going insane an to the MAX with almost no to minimal care and minimal nutes....

Does this sound insane to anyone else or is it me.... or is that really actually possible with these damn Hempys...What a gift from GOD.

Actually anyone have any experiance with small autos in hempys? Think a Quart bucket would do it with 1 auto per quart for 9 weeks no transplanting no flowering bucket later?//?

Ideas? Because I am ready to do this like earlier on page 14...Think about it...I have and do get up to an ounce off some auto strains, the males will be so easy to move near females in another room compared to a hydro set up...before I needed 2 HYDRO setups to let them make love....just for seeds...with hempys the whole base is smaller...no cramped hydro set up...and you could hand hang custom placed cfls between plants since there is no tub between plants...with the little faster autos you would need less nutes (in my mind correct if im wrong)...less water overall with cfls...and less care in a small box with a SHIT TON of those crappy CFLs.
Witha dozen autos I see a perpetual harvest from seed every week or so. Maybe up to of 7-10 ounces a week...seriously GOD blessed Hempys brain...God blessed him. gave him the gift of insight.

Can anyone help me ponder these dumb ideas with cfls and autos in a real small spot

Anyone think im in the land of fantasy or kinda onto something because this seems right down my ally...

no matter what you think of autos or cfls???lol Id use HID but I just cant do it, too risky an I got 3 kids, these days they might try to take them if they found some dumb shit ...so STEALTH is A MUST know what I mean...

This is my second HB attempt and I'm having the same problem as last grow. This time at 3 and a half weeks I started with 1\4 teaspoon per gallon of fox farms big grow and lower leafs started to yellow and die off. I flushed the plants and haven't given any more ferts just water every 3 days. I don't know if I over fed or if it's nitrogen def. Should I try and start ferts again and if so what strength? Maybe just trash the ff stuff and get hydro nutes? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

5 week old plants
400w MH 2ft away
18/6 lights
55-60 RH
rain water ph adjusted to 6.0
temp 72-75
bagseed

H8U4EVR said:

This is my second HB attempt and I'm having the same problem as last grow. This time at 3 and a half weeks I started with 1\4 teaspoon per gallon of fox farms big grow and lower leafs started to yellow and die off. I flushed the plants and haven't given any more ferts just water every 3 days. I don't know if I over fed or if it's nitrogen def. Should I try and start ferts again and if so what strength? Maybe just trash the ff stuff and get hydro nutes? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

5 week old plants
400w MH 2ft away
18/6 lights
55-60 RH
rain water ph adjusted to 6.0
temp 72-75
bagseed

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It's common for the bottom leaves to turn yellow. I think you have some NPK build up down there. I would only feed/water once every 4 days and feed/water every other time. Usually it's bad to switch nutes in the middle of a grow, but I sure as heck wouldn't be using soil fertilizer. If you want to switch nutes, Ionic is great for hempy method. It is very low in salts too!
Are those 3.5 weeks from seed or did you start w/clones? I'm doing my first hempy grow from seed right now and it is very very slow. Last time I started with 6-8" rooted clones and they got to 18" in 5 weeks. This is really testing my patience, lol.

THseaman said:

It's common for the bottom leaves to turn yellow. I think you have some NPK build up down there. I would only feed/water once every 4 days and feed/water every other time. Usually it's bad to switch nutes in the middle of a grow, but I sure as heck wouldn't be using soil fertilizer. If you want to switch nutes, Ionic is great for hempy method. It is very low in salts too!
Are those 3.5 weeks from seed or did you start w/clones? I'm doing my first hempy grow from seed right now and it is very very slow. Last time I started with 6-8" rooted clones and they got to 18" in 5 weeks. This is really testing my patience, lol.

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See this is my only problem with the method, Most people seem to be growing big full size plants with this method or at least larger plants....and I really think using the right nutes at the right % is crucial. If I want to do a sog from clones or even use these little autoflower strains I think I am going to have to Re-Learn how to use nutes at weaker more precise ratios...

Can someone suggest or gimme a link to a autoflowering grow with hempys ???
or a better more precise nute program for very tiny 18" plants ??because I cant find anything from my searchs...and if I aint really gonna give them anything nute wise for 2 weeks or so they will already be flowering and being sexed...so then I assume with AF strains I would not use a "Vegetive" grow nute, maybe just micro with a little extra N or very little Grow...and then go right to "Flowering" nutes???

I just dont wanna be less succesful than with DWC my first time out with Hempys... because of the nutes being used in a different way that retarded.

5 weeks old bagseed. I've read from other folks that they have used the fox farms with the HB method w no problem. Maybe this bagseed is very sensative to nutes, I have read that can be a problem.

misterdogman said:

See this is my only problem with the method, Most people seem to be growing big full size plants with this method or at least larger plants....and I really think using the right nutes at the right % is crucial. If I want to do a sog from clones or even use these little autoflower strains I think I am going to have to Re-Learn how to use nutes at weaker more precise ratios...

Can someone suggest or gimme a link to a autoflowering grow with hempys ???
or a better more precise nute program for very tiny 18" plants ??because I cant find anything from my searchs...and if I aint really gonna give them anything nute wise for 2 weeks or so they will already be flowering and being sexed...so then I assume with AF strains I would not use a "Vegetive" grow nute, maybe just micro with a little extra N or very little Grow...and then go right to "Flowering" nutes???

I just dont wanna be less succesful than with DWC my first time out with Hempys... because of the nutes being used in a different way that retarded.

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I think big D921 has a formula where he uses 4 drops of nutes and superthrive and fish emulsion. Maybe he can give us a yell and explain the schedule he uses?

H8U4EVR said:

This is my second HB attempt and I'm having the same problem as last grow. This time at 3 and a half weeks I started with 1\4 teaspoon per gallon of fox farms big grow and lower leafs started to yellow and die off. I flushed the plants and haven't given any more ferts just water every 3 days. I don't know if I over fed or if it's nitrogen def. Should I try and start ferts again and if so what strength? Maybe just trash the ff stuff and get hydro nutes? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

5 week old plants
400w MH 2ft away
18/6 lights
55-60 RH
rain water ph adjusted to 6.0
temp 72-75
bagseed

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i think you waited a bit long to start w/the fertilizer. these guys have had -no- nutrients for a long time in a lifeless medium.

i've read the entire thread, and while it seems some are able to use soil fertilizer successfully, almost every time i read about someone having a problem this is what they were using. i'd recommend hydroponic nutes. there is no soil for the other stuff to be broken down into a useable form.

also, i've read in this thread that you should keep your pH as if it -were- a soil medium, ie; 6.7 or 6.8. Your plants aren't over-nuted... they appear to have nutrient lock-out from a pH problem or from waiting so long to give them nutrients which they are having trouble using because they were meant for a soil grow. (They appear to be primarily phosphorous deficient, maybe a bit nitrogen deficient as well.) If you get the nutrients right, and it was primarily a phosphorous deficiency, then you will see robust new growth, but the old growth won't much recover. Giving them no fertilizer at this point isn't going to help.

(EDIT) also, i'd start foliar feeding right away with a 1/4 strength 20-20-20 solution that you have made pH neutral ... at least 2 times a day, but preferably 4 or so, until it seems that the plant is getting what it needs from its roots. Also, you might look into "mycorhizae" (beneficial biologicals) ... i credit these micro beasties with helping my plants to begin recovery from a similar nute lockout problem before i even received my pH meter in the mail and began to get some of my pH problems under control.

THseaman said:

That's terrible. How old/big are they? Are you giving them each a small amount (1/2 cup) of water every day? I gave my seedlings a small amount of water every day for their first few days and then backed off to every 3 days when they got their second set of leaves. A few of mine were kneeling over for a couple days too but they pretty much came back and now they just have rams ears but are standing straight. Also, do you have a fan directly on them? If you do, you might consider turning it off for a couple of days for them to recooperate and also extend the period of darkness for a couple more hours a day for a few days. Good luck!

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They are 22 days old but I picked off the dead bottom leaves so they only have one set each, the 3 leave sets. I give them one big cup of water every three days.. I think I majorly over watered at first though which made them start to droop and die, so I have have been trying to back off with the water. I don't have a fan directly on them but it gets a small breeze from the fan thats on my larger flowering plant. So 1/2 cup every day.. I will try that.. there's really no secret to hempy buckets? Just transplant seedling into perlite and water??

H8U4EVR said:

I think big D921 has a formula where he uses 4 drops of nutes and superthrive and fish emulsion. Maybe he can give us a yell and explain the schedule he uses?

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yeah that would be sweet, I like the fish emulsion idea and superthrive always seems to benefit my other plants...now if we could only send that person a message with our brains for some info, I still cant search for topics here...WTF...and im tired of searchig for stuff in google to find a URL on topic here....why cant I search. Anyhow, hear of anyone growing Autos in Hempys that idea facinates me for some reason I just dont know why, seems like they are made for on another in tight spaces...perfect for me anyway I just keep wondering about nutes since they grow so fast and wish someone was around doing this now so I could pick their brain....I dont think Grow would be so needed with autos, I dont know I guess Ill research it somehow...

Nope, I think I figured it out.
After doing my research... I am going to do the Flornova grow and bloom. Easy 2 part, if not I will just go with GH Micro and Bloom nutes with no or very little grow in it...Jeez with Hempys and Autos its a match made in heaven and being low nute lovers I should be able to dial in a low dose feeding programcustom for Autos...I might have to keep records and post updates because I am getting supplies and making a new stealth box this weekend...

any other suggestions on the idea are more than welcome and wanted. New ideas stimulate my thoughts and make me come up with better idears....Also Other better nute brands and info wanted too.... but I see this becoming a Hempy stealh auto grow for me for SURE....

the cool guys in the know are calling it the SHAFF method...lmao

Stealth,Hempy,AutoFlowering,Fluoros .......Method for lazy pot heads and so far looking to be a brilliant idea, Ill post updates when it takes off...its all still in mah brain....lol.

i suggest strongly the gh micro and bloom, 2 teaspoons of mciro to 1 teaspoon of bloom during veg, reverse ratio when in flower.... simple as pie!



.... and get a damn HPS....


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Would all you hempyists please check my plant problem thread and give me some advice? Pleeeease?


https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/128176-plants-stalling-during-flowering-check.html

lumberjack_ian said:

i suggest strongly the gh micro and bloom, 2 teaspoons of mciro to 1 teaspoon of bloom during veg, reverse ratio when in flower.... simple as pie!



.... and get a damn HPS....


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yeah the more I been reading your and AZs posts more it seem people like to lean to the Mocro and Bloom with no grow...I probably will too because not only is it a little cheaper but seems to be better over all...

And yeah Im slowly leaning toward a 250 hps as long as I can hide it and keep heat down in the box im designing...

But in the past I have been successful with CFLs because I always go with like 2X more than needed and since I get them for like 50 cents a piece for 26 watters I can fill a cabinet with then for 10- 15 bucks and never paid for a socket yet...lol.

But a damn HPS can be as cheap as 75 bux on ebay so I am still considering it. Thanks so much for the info its exactly what I been looking to dial in...
1 more quick ?, Lumberjack...
Since the Veg state is so slow on these Autos would you mix the nutes like you told me and start off with them at 14 days or so right before they show sex???
and then change the ratio when they really start taking off and budding because saying to use it during the "veg" cycle only gives me like a week to work with because I aint giving then NOTHING for the first week...so then after rooted and in my cup/bucket you suggest that mix just like you said... or start at like 50% of that
and then swap after 2 weeks or so...I just dont wanna burn them and know ill have to watch them and see what they need Myself... but they already seem to not like a lot of nutes and in a DWC I was always adjusting shit so this is why I ask...

shnkrmn said:

Would all you hempyists please check my plant problem thread and give me some advice? Pleeeease?


https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/128176-plants-stalling-during-flowering-check.html

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Man looks like to this noob that youve got like 3 things going on there, dont trust my experiance but it looks like some kind of nute or light burned to me. Dont look like just a deficiency to me. Either Way too much heat and nutes or too much water. She really looks rough.

mmk starting from seed... i go light on nutes... maybe half a teaspoon of each (again just using micro and bloom) for the first 2 weeks or so... then you can bump it up to the 2 teaspoons of micro and 1 of bloom up until the last 4-5 weeks of flower, then switch the ratio for the next 2-3 weeks and finish off the last couple tapering down and flushing a bit


IMO, i would never grow an autoflowering plant... i like more control... have a small mom/clone room and a seperate flower chamber...

but hey... do what ya will =]

but yeah for what your doing that feeding should work for you... don't feed every time you water, every other or every third

best of luck




oh, and a DIY cooltube on your hps will make it much easier to use in small spaces... easy and cheap to make =]

lumberjack_ian said:

mmk starting from seed... i go light on nutes... maybe half a teaspoon of each (again just using micro and bloom) for the first 2 weeks or so... then you can bump it up to the 2 teaspoons of micro and 1 of bloom up until the last 4-5 weeks of flower, then switch the ratio for the next 2-3 weeks and finish off the last couple tapering down and flushing a bit


IMO, i would never grow an autoflowering plant... i like more control... have a small mom/clone room and a seperate flower chamber...

but hey... do what ya will =]

but yeah for what your doing that feeding should work for you... don't feed every time you water, every other or every third

best of luck




oh, and a DIY cooltube on your hps will make it much easier to use in small spaces... easy and cheap to make =]

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Yeah I cant argue...I am gonna take your advice, as of 7 minutes ago I put a buy it now bid in on this 250 watt HPS, Ill use my CFLs for some supplement blue light but thats about it...I cant argue with the facts and man I cant thank you enough for taking the time to spell out the nute thing for me....using them this way is MUCH different than in my DWC, ....its easier in a way but more tweeky and not as automatic, I just cant get over the ease and simplicity...Your advice has not only been listened to but heeded too, thanks for your time and input.....
many blessings..Mr