The Leprechaun's Pot O Gold

elkamino · Nov 3, 2015

RM3 said:
Tis an old school trick, here is what someone posted in my forum ,,,,,,,

Clark talked about it in MJ Botany. It restricts the flow of nutrients to the plant through the phloem, but leaves the xylem intact to transport water. This forces the plant to use up its sugar reserves, reducing chlorophyl. Some say yield is improved (I've seen the opposite in threads, test plant smaller than control plant).. Some say smell and taste is improved (starving the plant does, so I wouldn't doubt it).. Some say to use the technique on the "Gold" varieties to get them to gold/use up all chlorophyll.

I saw a few tests with non-gold varieties.. Girdled 2 and 3 wks before harvest.. neither turned gold. I'm really interested to see how this experiment turns out. If the technique works to turn buds gold, Riddle should pull it off. I've never seen anyone pull it off, haven't really looked much either though.

I think the "gold" herb is a result of curing.. curing closer to how riddle does than how most do it. In piles, with heat.

Well I'm suspicious but that's fascinating and I look forward to your results.

I can only see pix, and the plant looks different than one just chopped and hung- as in the leaves are fading/drying fast while the buds appear moist. Is that what you're witnessing?

elkamino · Nov 3, 2015

RM3 said:
The girdling,
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Think you left enough xylem? I'm no botanist but it looks like you took a lot off. But maybe that's the proper technique. I ask because I've tried similar scraping techniques on soft stems while cloning, so its different, but my understanding was that the woody stem doesn't do much for fluid transport. If your buds are still moister than if they'd been hanging, well that might answer the question. :joint:

...and I'll be getting some of those Ultra Wave T5s too, thanks...

RM3 · Nov 3, 2015

elkamino said:
Well I'm suspicious but that's fascinating and I look forward to your results.

I can only see pix, and the plant looks different than one just chopped and hung- as in the leaves are fading/drying fast while the buds appear moist. Is that what you're witnessing?

yeppers the buds are NOT drying out

old shol4evr · Nov 3, 2015

so you just use the mix,noticed they have one 12000 lumens, i got the 6500 bulbs with the light,so in your opinion which are the best to also keep stretch down

RM3 · Nov 3, 2015

old shol4evr said:
so you just use the mix,noticed they have one 12000 lumens, i got the 6500 bulbs with the light,so in your opinion which are the best to also keep stretch down

Best way to reduce stretch is to use gaslight veg routine, 2nd to that is mostly blue light

old shol4evr · Nov 3, 2015

been using gas light over year now,damn brother you have forgot me,you turned me on to it,i checked out that link but dont see anyway to buy them ,whats the secret to getting them.ya i have had 3 succesful grows with the gas light,using hps and mh,switching things up and got me a 16 bulb t5ho,3 switches 7.2 amps from wall 80000 lumens,was going go with the agrgrow bulbs in red ,but this interest me more

taGyo · Nov 3, 2015

ttystikk said:
There's a lot of us using dry nutrient salts with good results.

The kid is a lost cause lol. I tried to explain to him that shoes bought from payless are the same as Jordans yet the difference in the people that buy them is colossal. He still doesn't comprehend. Apparently only serious weed ops grow using AN and underground growers also only use AN, the ones that are never on any forums or anything.

@Enigmatic Ways tell RM3 he doesn't have nice looking buds LOL.

taGyo · Nov 3, 2015

I've been using nothing but Gas Lantern Routine. I also flower 11/13 just like the man himself over here. The two smaller guys are autoflowers vegged with GLR, they're past 3 feet now probably closer to 4.

The one on the bin and the one in the pot were donated to me but they've been flowering under 11/13 beautifully. The short squat girl is Dark Star and the big girl is C+.

I've been turning more people on to it as well. I have a guy thats been growing for 3 years testing it out in his ebb and flow set up.

WHODAT@THADOR · Nov 3, 2015

taGyo said:
The kid is a lost cause lol. I tried to explain to him that shoes bought from payless are the same as Jordans yet the difference in the people that buy them is colossal. He still doesn't comprehend. Apparently only serious weed ops grow using AN and underground growers also only use AN, the ones that are never on any forums or anything.

@Enigmatic Ways tell RM3 he doesn't have nice looking buds LOL.

Whats wrong with @RM3 buds?

taGyo · Nov 3, 2015

Nothing, the kid before was saying you only get good buds from Advanced Nutrients and standard shit. RM3 has proven and blown that out of the water with his shots.

RM3 · Nov 3, 2015

old shol4evr said:
been using gas light over year now,damn brother you have forgot me,you turned me on to it,i checked out that link but dont see anyway to buy them ,whats the secret to getting them.ya i have had 3 succesful grows with the gas light,using hps and mh,switching things up and got me a 16 bulb t5ho,3 switches 7.2 amps from wall 80000 lumens,was going go with the agrgrow bulbs in red ,but this interest me more

I got the bulbs from Amazon

old shol4evr · Nov 3, 2015

RM3 said:
I got the bulbs from Amazon

checking right now rm3,thanks brother

WHODAT@THADOR · Nov 3, 2015

taGyo said:
Nothing, the kid before was saying you only get good buds from Advanced Nutrients and standard shit. RM3 has proven and blown that out of the water with his shots.

Yes I concur...People get really mad and stupid when they hear there are plenty of easier and cheaper ways to provide awesome weight,smoke, and overall beautiful plants. Personally, just between us I'm still trying to figure out what the hell a chelate taste like...ROFLMFAO..

ttystikk · Nov 3, 2015

RM3 said:
Best way to reduce stretch is to use gaslight veg routine, 2nd to that is mostly blue light

Okay, so let's turn that upside down for a sec and ask what gives the MOST stretch in veg, for us sequoia growers? I'm running HPS lighting after my clones have rooted right up to two weeks before flip. The idea is altitude, they fill out when they get there.

RM3 · Nov 4, 2015

ttystikk said:
Okay, so let's turn that upside down for a sec and ask what gives the MOST stretch in veg, for us sequoia growers? I'm running HPS lighting after my clones have rooted right up to two weeks before flip. The idea is altitude, they fill out when they get there.

Infrared & far red light

ttystikk · Nov 4, 2015

RM3 said:
Infrared & far red light

Is that in addition to or in place of blue light?

RM3 · Nov 4, 2015

ttystikk said:
Is that in addition to or in place of blue light?

In place of if ya want em to stretch

ttystikk · Nov 4, 2015

RM3 said:
In place of if ya want em to stretch

You should consider coming up to the Fort for a visit sometime. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't bore ya!

RM3 · Nov 4, 2015

ttystikk said:
You should consider coming up to the Fort for a visit sometime. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't bore ya!

Perhaps one day, I don't get out a lot

RM3 · Nov 4, 2015

These Wave bulbs are passin all the initial test with flying colors if they do this well in the Ultra Cola phase they will def be my bulb of choice !!!

The girdle test is almost done, took less than 2 weeks which is what I would expect from the sun

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