The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

budlover13

King Tut
Here we go with someone else trying to show how much of a bigot Dr. paul is.

Try reading the rest of the thread. i think it's been discussed rather extensively WITH evidence from both sides rather than just accusations.
 

Carthoris

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul wants everyone to be treated the same. No special treatment for anyone. Rich, poor, black, or white.


Kind of like Ron "the bigot" Paul supporters who don't tolerate people who don't support RP? Is that what you mean? Frankly, I don't care, tell nor even suggest who other people vote for and *everyone* is entitled to their opinions but their opinions can certainly prove that they are bigots as is the case with RP.
This is a Ron Paul thread discussion. You are choosing to come into it and attack Ron Paul and his supporters. Obviously you have a chip on your shoulder since you can't leave us alone to discuss politics amongst ourselves. What does bigot mean to you? I'm guessing you have no idea what it means.

Surely, you're not suggesting that.....let's say...rejecting the ideology of "the klan" makes people "anti-klan bigots," right? Rejection of intolerance (bigotry) is not the same thing, unless that person is just trying to argue semantics or feeling guilty, of course.

Hope that helps...
A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

Bigots and Bigotry apply to all situations. The very fact that you went out of your way to come to a Ron Paul thread and abuse Ron Paul and his supporters makes you a bigot. You are showing animosity and intolerance towards Ron Paul for differing beliefs. They are not violent or racist beliefs that you are railing against. Ron Paul does not support racism.
 

Carthoris

Well-Known Member
I wonder why the Liberals who so thoroughly call Ron Paul a racist for rejecting the CRA as unconstitutional and wrong turned their head as people like Senator Robert Byrd continued to lead their party for 60 years. Ron Paul had a reason for not accepting it, a very valid and real reason.

Seriously, the longest serving senator, Robert Byrd, was in the KKK, against CRA, and yet the Democrats kept him as one of their own for 60 years. Someone wrote a news letter in Ron Paul's name and said something, and he is a racist. Robert Byrd outright says he was in the KKK and the democrats loved him. Someone has some serious fucked up values in the world, and it ain't Ron Paul and his supporters.
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
1) I'm not reading a 437 page thread about Ron "the bigot" Paul but I'll join in whether or not his supporters like it. :D

2) I don't know what was discussed defended denied or why. What I do know is that if a person knowingly supports a bigot, they must be a bigot themselves. You can't support "the klan," for example, and not be a bigot. If people don't know that RP is a bigot they're either ignorant or gullible.

3) If Ron "the bigot" Paul supporters can't handle it when people aren't RP puppets or lemmings, that's not my problem. Just because this is a RP thread doesn't mean everyone has to agree with him.

4) As I said, pointing out that a bigot is a bigot doesn't make one a bigot unless they're feeling guilty about something or simply intelectually dishonest.

5) I wonder why anyone can support bigots, liberals, libertarians, whomever, bigotry is just wrong. Yes, Byrd was in the klan but they don't like to talk about that. More democrats voted against the CRA than Republicans yet they claim Republicans are the racists. Lincoln, the first Republican and a yankee, freed the slaves from dixie-democrat plantation owners, yet they still claim that Republicans are the racists. *shrug* That doesn't change the fact that Ron "the bigot" Paul *is* a bigot even if he denies it now and his supporters believe him or don't know or don't care.


Regardless, it really doesn't matter, RP will NEVER be elected and anyone that *REALLY* truely believes that he's going to win is deluded or otherwse not grounded in honesty nor reality. Vote for whomever you want to, I don't tell people who to vote for. The, what, 12 or so vocal RP supporters here can get mad if they want, Ron "the bigot" Paul has already ran twice and lost both times. Nobody has ever lost twice and then been elected President, EVER. Nobody votes for libertarians, that is a fact. We Republicans REJECTED him twice, he's done, he'll NEVER be President, thank God. :D

Don't cry though... ;)
 

budlover13

King Tut
1) I'm not reading a 437 page thread about Ron "the bigot" Paul but I'll join in whether or not his supporters like it. :D

2) I don't know what was discussed defended denied or why. What I do know is that if a person knowingly supports a bigot, they must be a bigot themselves. You can't support "the klan," for example, and not be a bigot. If people don't know that RP is a bigot they're either ignorant or gullible.

3) If Ron "the bigot" Paul supporters can't handle it when people aren't RP puppets or lemmings, that's not my problem. Just because this is a RP thread doesn't mean everyone has to agree with him.

4) As I said, pointing out that a bigot is a bigot doesn't make one a bigot unless they're feeling guilty about something or simply intelectually dishonest.

5) I wonder why anyone can support bigots, liberals, libertarians, whomever, bigotry is just wrong. Yes, Byrd was in the klan but they don't like to talk about that. More democrats voted against the CRA than Republicans yet they claim Republicans are the racists. Lincoln, the first Republican and a yankee, freed the slaves from dixie-democrat plantation owners, yet they still claim that Republicans are the racists. *shrug* That doesn't change the fact that Ron "the bigot" Paul *is* a bigot even if he denies it now and his supporters believe him or don't know or don't care.


Regardless, it really doesn't matter, RP will NEVER be elected and anyone that *REALLY* truely believes that he's going to win is deluded or otherwse not grounded in honesty nor reality. Vote for whomever you want to, I don't tell people who to vote for. The, what, 12 or so vocal RP supporters here can get mad if they want, Ron "the bigot" Paul has already ran twice and lost both times. Nobody has ever lost twice and then been elected President, EVER. Nobody votes for libertarians, that is a fact. We Republicans REJECTED him twice, he's done, he'll NEVER be President, thank God. :D

Don't cry though... ;)
And yet another perfect example of why our political process is in the mess it is.

When you educate yourself on the issues then we can discuss them. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
Kind of like Ron "the bigot" Paul supporters who don't tolerate people who don't support RP? Is that what you mean? Frankly, I don't care, tell nor even suggest who other people vote for and *everyone* is entitled to their opinions but their opinions can certainly prove that they are bigots as is the case with RP.

Surely, you're not suggesting that.....let's say...rejecting the ideology of "the klan" makes people "anti-klan bigots," right? Rejection of intolerance (bigotry) is not the same thing, unless that person is just trying to argue semantics or feeling guilty, of course.

Hope that helps...
Rejecting ideology is not bigotry.

So let me get this straight... because a supporter of Ron Paul is intolerant of opposing views.... that makes Ron Paul a bigot?

Interesting...
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
Rejecting ideology is not bigotry.

So let me get this straight... because a supporter of Ron Paul is intolerant of opposing views.... that makes Ron Paul a bigot?

Interesting...
I'm glad we agree that rejecting bigotry is not bigotry.

No, I'm *not* saying that Ron "the bigot" Paul is a bigot *because* some of his supporters are intolerant of any other candidates or intolerant of people that don't support RP. I'm just pointing out that some RP supporters are intolerant of others, in reply to your previous post on the previous page. Are you claiming that's not correct? Plenty of posts here prove me right.

RP, however, is a bigot because of what RP does, he owns that himself. I believe in personal responsibility, too bad he doesn't. ;)
 

Carthoris

Well-Known Member
I'm glad we agree that rejecting bigotry is not bigotry.

No, I'm *not* saying that Ron "the bigot" Paul is a bigot *because* some of his supporters are intolerant of any other candidates or intolerant of people that don't support RP. I'm just pointing out that some RP supporters are intolerant of others, in reply to your previous post on the previous page. Are you claiming that's not correct? Plenty of posts here prove me right.

RP, however, is a bigot because of what RP does, he owns that himself. I believe in personal responsibility, too bad he doesn't. ;)

Ron Paul isn't a bigot. You already stated you aren't interested in proof or reading about it. You already made up your mind without any room to change otherwise regardless of the facts. Doesn't that make you just a big asshole? I wouldn't be surprised if you were someone else coming in to stir up problems. You know, like DukeAnthony or something. Out of your less than 40 posts, like 35 of them have been bashing Ron Paul.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Hate filled drivel?

That would be a series of newsletters Ron Paul wrote
i believe, if researched, one would find that MANY people have had to retract or denounce things written in their name.

It happens to judges, ceo's, police departments, almost ALL levels of government.
 

deprave

New Member
1) I'm not reading a 437 page thread about Ron "the bigot" Paul but I'll join in whether or not his supporters like it. :D

2) I don't know what was discussed defended denied or why. What I do know is that if a person knowingly supports a bigot, they must be a bigot themselves. You can't support "the klan," for example, and not be a bigot. If people don't know that RP is a bigot they're either ignorant or gullible. How does he support "the klan".

3) If Ron "the bigot" Paul supporters can't handle it when people aren't RP puppets or lemmings, that's not my problem. Just because this is a RP thread doesn't mean everyone has to agree with him. It sure doesn't but we'd sure like to see your disagreement and have a chance to discuss it with you. You haven't presented any ..you just say hes "a bigot" which is absolutely ridiculous, hes the polar opposite of a bigot.

4) As I said, pointing out that a bigot is a bigot doesn't make one a bigot unless they're feeling guilty about something or simply intelectually dishonest. No its childish fighting and a strawman argument.

5) I wonder why anyone can support bigots, liberals, libertarians, whomever, bigotry is just wrong. Yes, Byrd was in the klan but they don't like to talk about that. More democrats voted against the CRA than Republicans yet they claim Republicans are the racists. Lincoln, the first Republican and a yankee, freed the slaves from dixie-democrat plantation owners, yet they still claim that Republicans are the racists. *shrug* That doesn't change the fact that Ron "the bigot" Paul *is* a bigot even if he denies it now and his supporters believe him or don't know or don't care.
Why do you keep calling Ron Paul a bigot, you still haven't provided us with an argument, your probably the first person I have EVER herd call Ron Paul a bigot so I'd like to know what the hell your talking about.

Regardless, it really doesn't matter, RP will NEVER be elected and anyone that *REALLY* truely believes that he's going to win is deluded or otherwse not grounded in honesty nor reality. Vote for whomever you want to, I don't tell people who to vote for. The, what, 12 or so vocal RP supporters here can get mad if they want, Ron "the bigot" Paul has already ran twice and lost both times. Nobody has ever lost twice and then been elected President, EVER. Nobody votes for libertarians, that is a fact. We Republicans REJECTED him twice ONCE, he's done, he'll NEVER be President, thank God. :D
A lot of people disagree with you. Ron Paul has a pretty descent chance, Id say at least 1/3rd of republicans are going to vote for him, and thing is, once you realize Ron Paul is the only hope this country has your vote doesn't sway. The other canidates followers change rapidly every week while Ron Paul is Rock solid.
Don't cry though... ;)
see red text above and please provide an actual argument if you would like to have a discussion otherwise just go away.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
i believe, if researched, one would find that MANY people have had to retract or denounce things written in their name.

It happens to judges, ceo's, police departments, almost ALL levels of government.
except he has stated that he wrote those before trying to say he didn't.
 
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