The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

Ron Paul
"we should encourage homeschooling & private schooling and let the individuals write that off. The parents have to get control of the education. It used to be parents had control of education through local school boards. Today it’s the judicial system and the executive branch of government, the bureaucracy, that controls things, and it would be predictable that the quality would go down. The money goes to the bureaucrats and not to the educational system."


Ron Paul
"my commitment is to ensure that home schooling remains a practical alternative for American families. As President I will advance tax credits through the Family Education Freedom Act, which reduces taxes to make it easier for parents to home school by allowing them to devote more of their own funds to their children’s education. I am committed to guaranteeing parity for home school diplomas and advancing equal scholarship consideration for students entering college from a home school environment. "

^This philosphy gets twisted into "abolish public schooling"

Ron Paul does want to abolish federal education department.....duh..liberty issue.. Federal Department of Education does not mean public schools. Most republicans are behind this idea.

1. BE IT RESOLVED that the Republican Liberty Caucus endorses the following [among its] principles:
2. The US Department of Education should be abolished, leaving education decision making at the state, local or personal level.
3. Parents have the right to spend their money on the school or method of schooling they deem appropriate for their children.

deprave said:

[*]The US Department of Education should be abolished, leaving education decision making at the state, local or personal level.

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does that mean all texans will have the handicap of never having learned about jefferson while people from the northeast will enjoy the benefits of a well-rounded education?

does not sound like we are giving each of our citizens an equal shot at success.

imagine all the fuckups out of kansas that will never hear about that little theory called evolution.

1. Yes I can, He believes he must support liberty and freedom for all life. -have to say I disagree with him on abortion

2. I thought I explained well enough, mind you, I will use google again to explain it for you if you like or do you wanna google it yourself since my previous explanations and sources weren't good enough for you? The newsletter is not written or even read by Ron Paul - If you watch the the video I posted under racism in the original post there is Ron Paul explanation for you, He tried to find out who wrote it but there was no record, it was a ghost writer posing as Ron Paul, The paper itself even admits it wasn't Ron Paul, Please take the liberty to watch the video and google the rest of the facts yourself Im getting hand cramps.


3. What the hell this is supposed to even mean I have not a clue- You mean if we didn't have the bailouts?

UncleBuck said:

that must be it, we just need it explained to us better.

maybe you can explain to me how he actually DOES trust my wife to make decisions about her own body and health? woops, you can't.

maybe you can explain how he had nothing to do with that racist newsletter which he admitted penning and once defended? woops, you can't.

maybe you can explain how things would be fine and dandy if we just let the economy blow up in 2008? woops, you can't.

you keep thinking you can "convert" us, but you can't. the man has explained himself.

he does not trust women to make decisions, has penned and defended abhorrent racism, and would rather let our economy fail than give it a chance to recover. FACT.

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deprave said:

The newsletter is not written or even read by Ron Paul

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yet he defended it. he defended something he never read or write? that is not something even i would do, and paul is likely a little smarter than me.

deprave said:

What the hell this is supposed to even mean I have not a clue- You mean if we didn't have the bailouts?

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yes, suppose we let everything fail. where would small businesses (and large ones) get credit to make payroll? where would they get loans to obtain capital, expand, or just get by?

not a fan of the bailouts here, but we were between a rock and a hard place.

UncleBuck said:

does that mean all texans will have the handicap of never having learned about jefferson while people from the northeast will enjoy the benefits of a well-rounded education?

does not sound like we are giving each of our citizens an equal shot at success.

imagine all the fuckups out of kansas that will never hear about that little theory called evolution.

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Oh yeah cause evolution is soooooo important...LMAO...Where would I be if I didn't know about evolution? ROFLMAO

deprave said:

Oh yeah cause evolution is so fucking important...LMAO...Where would I be if I didn't know about evolution? ROFLMAO

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you would be like olylifter, which is pretty bad.

there is a reason why you have to take so many classes that have nothing to do with your major in college. there is a value to a well-rounded education.

states like texas would handicap their students by teaching them some fucked up, revisionist history.

it is already bad enough that i had to research for myself the true story of thanksgiving, why let nutwing states encourage this?

edit: evolution is important to learn about. forgot about many careers in biology, psychology, psychiatry, and other high paying fields without it.

These days kids pretty much have to re-learn everything anyway , how much did you really seriously learn in school besides basic stuff, seriously? You studied for test and then you forgot most of it if it wasn't interesting to you.

I don't see how evolution is important, sorry, I don't deny its real of course as there is much evidence to prove it but its really pretty useless information. If I could delete that from my brain and replace it with just about any knowledge(shit even a recipe for chilli) I'd do it in a heartbeat lol

deprave said:

These days kids pretty much have to re-learn everything anyway , how much did you really seriously learn in school besides basic stuff, seriously? You studied for test and then you forgot most of it if it wasn't interesting to you.

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i still speak fluent spanish. bi-lingual out of high school. also got to skip my first two years of college math as i had tested out of it thanks to HS knowledge. put me ahead of the game.

i have worked several jobs that i would not have been able to if not for my knowledge of spanish.

UncleBuck said:

where would small businesses (and large ones) get credit to make payroll? where would they get loans to obtain capital, expand, or just get by?

not a fan of the bailouts here, but we were between a rock and a hard place.

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Putting the cart before the horse, Businesses should use the income they receive to pay their bills. When you have a bill due , do you go to the bank and get a loan to pay for it? Always worked for me, and let me tell you a secret, if you put some money away for a rainy day, when that rainy day comes, you will have some money.

deprave said:

I don't see how evolution is important, sorry, I don't deny its real of course as there is much evidence to prove it but its really pretty useless information.

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tell that to a biologist, an evolutionary psychologist, medicine, neurology...all of these are high paying, prestigious jobs that you forgo without a working knowledge of evolution.

do you want to handicap certain kids that come from localities that believe in jesus ponies over evolution? it's not fair.

NoDrama said:

Putting the cart before the horse, Businesses should use the income they receive to pay their bills. When you have a bill due , do you go to the bank and get a loan to pay for it? Always worked for me, and let me tell you a secret, if you put some money away for a rainy day, when that rainy day comes, you will have some money.

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the finances of large and small businesses work much differently from my personal finances.

nice try though.

Kids these days can google anything they dont need the federal goverment control mechanism, pretty sure most kids in Kansas would run into evolution on the internet before they hit 14

deprave said:

Kids these days can google anything they dont need the federal goverment control mechanism, pretty sure most kids in Kansas would run into evolution on the internet before they hit 14

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so, replace public schools with google?

yeah, that'll work.

UncleBuck said:

yes, suppose we let everything fail. where would small businesses (and large ones) get credit to make payroll? where would they get loans to obtain capital, expand, or just get by?

not a fan of the bailouts here, but we were between a rock and a hard place.

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We need to do away with credit as we know it especially the easy access to credit large companies have. That is part of why we have the huge income divide between rich and poor, for the rich money is free.

UncleBuck said:

tell that to a biologist, an evolutionary psychologist, medicine, neurology...all of these are high paying, prestigious jobs that you forgo without a working knowledge of evolution.

do you want to handicap certain kids that come from localities that believe in jesus ponies over evolution? it's not fair.

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dude you just made me spit coffee everywhere, hilarious post.

deprave said:

Liberty is colorblind, Ron Paul is all about equal chance for every individual, this is why I called him the champion of the poor.

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Odd that he happens to be against the civil rights movement (for constitutional reasons of course), against MLK's birthday (because he doesn't like his economic policies of course), publishes a racist newsletter (that of course he had nothing to do with writing) and even opposes Abraham Lincoln's presidency and thinks the civil war was a senseless power grab by the north(for states rights reasons of course).

Now individually none of those things are necessarily racist (except the civil war stuff) or anti-black, but those are exactly the type of things racists say when trying to pass off their ignorant views in a mainstream way.

Trying to claim that Ron Paul has the best interest of black Americans in mind is a pretty tough sell.

deprave said:

I don't see how evolution is important, sorry, I don't deny its real of course as there is much evidence to prove it but its really pretty useless information. If I could delete that from my brain and replace it with just about knowledge I'd do it in a heartbeat lol

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Evolution of everything but humans is very easily observed, but for humans we made a HUGE leap from Neanderthal to full human, they have not been able to find the in between man. Its like someone just placed us here.

UncleBuck said:

so, replace public schools with google?

yeah, that'll work.

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lol dude your hilarious. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DOES NOT EQUAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS - Kids already have google, they search it and learn about things they are interested in, at school they study for the test and then forget most of it, sure they learn some basic skills and stuff they might not of caught on to before, and most importantly social skills...but common, people only really learn about things they are passionate about in this day and age. They have Google in there pockets you forget.