The Venn Diagram of Irrational Nonsense

If you believe in anything on this diagram, better do some research.

Hey, Heis! Haven't seen you around for a minute. The diagram is cool. I still have a lingering tendency to believe in the detox thing from my Trudeau days. Something about the concept sits well with me: we ingest substances, and eat food, containing impurities/toxins so we should logically want to rid them from our bodies (assuming they are harmful), and there should be ways of doing this. I do need to do more research to discover why this isn't logical...

tyler.durden said:

Hey, Heis! Haven't seen you around for a minute. The diagram is cool. I still have a lingering tendency to believe in the detox thing from my Trudeau days. Something about the concept sits well with me: we ingest substances, and eat food, containing impurities/toxins so we should logically want to rid them from our bodies (assuming they are harmful), and there should be ways of doing this. I do need to do more research to discover why this isn't logical...

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Your premise is not flawed, but as it turns out our bodies are already very well adapted at getting rid of 'toxins'. Not just the obvious organs like liver and kidneys, but the lungs, gut, and even the skin and hair. Studies suggest that the function of theses systems is already optimal and can not be improved by any of the proposed detox treatments. The only time it needs help is if you are seriously ill and not functioning normally in which case we treat the specific problem. It's a classic example of someone selling a non-solution to a non-problem. You've probably heard all this before but I hate to pass up a chance to preach.

Heis, much of what is in the diagram pertains to consciousness. We need another diagram for the stuff science has actually sorted out

Heisenberg said:

Your premise is not flawed, but as it turns out our bodies are already very well adapted at getting rid of 'toxins'. Not just the obvious organs like liver and kidneys, but the lungs, gut, and even the skin and hair. Studies suggest that the function of theses systems is already optimal and can not be improved by any of the proposed detox treatments. The only time it needs help is if you are seriously ill and not functioning normally in which case we treat the specific problem. It's a classic example of someone selling a non-solution to a non-problem. You've probably heard all this before but I hate to pass up a chance to preach.

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I guess I missed you at the pulpit. I hadn't heard that our bodies' detox systems are already optimal, makes more sense now Thanks...

eye exaggerate said:

Heis, much of what is in the diagram pertains to consciousness. We need another diagram for the stuff science has actually sorted out

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I am surprised to see a god of the gaps statement coming from you. What do you suppose a chart listing things dualism has sorted out would look like? Wouldn't need as many pixels I'm guessing.

i gotta say about half of chiropractic is not hokum.

i slipped a disc in my lumbar working on a forest fire, x-rays and regular doctors diagnosed it, and advised surgery, with a 6 month recovery at the least, a chriopractor had me back on my feet in two weeks, and followup visits with a physician and more x-rays declared me fit for duty after a month.

the worker's comp company didnt pay for it, so i went out of pocket, and it cost me a grand total of $400. the pricetag on the surgery was up around $10k (but the insurance company would have paid for that)

subluxations are bullshit, and my chiropractor said as much. he treated his job as a physical therapist, anatomist, and masseuse, and he did good work. he didnt try to sell me any crap, he said he couldnt fix my shoulder, knee or hand, since i needed surgery for fused bones and torn ligaments, and none of his patients came for treatment of viruses or other ailments outside his purview.

i guess chirporactors come in two flavours, regular, and crazy.

tyler.durden said:

I guess I missed you at the pulpit. I hadn't heard that our bodies' detox systems are already optimal, makes more sense now Thanks...

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what did you think pissing and shitting and sweating was for?

hell even tears remove excess hormones and minerals

your lymphatic system is just one giant garbage transport system, and it all dumps out down on the detention level, till it's compacted in the colon, and spaced out your rear hatch.

Heisenberg said:

If you believe in anything on this diagram, better do some research.

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lmao! Scientology! Encompassed by all of them.

Can't say I actually know enough about Scientology to actually make an educated comment. But that, my friend, is an obvious dig and I can't help but snicker.

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interesting. I just looked up homeopathy. My mom is into homeopathic cures. But what I saw on wiki isnt what shes into. She does the herbs and essential oils stuff. No water memory or vibrations or dilutions or any of that other weird stuff. Wonder why a lot of her herb books have homeopath... in the titles.

Heisenberg said:

I am surprised to see a god of the gaps statement coming from you. What do you suppose a chart listing things dualism has sorted out would look like? Wouldn't need as many pixels I'm guessing.

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...lol, no, I wouldn't think so. More or less black and white

Lol Heis...Thank goodness we can finally put this nonsense to rest!

There are quite a few documented cases of successful government-funded remote viewing studies out there, though.

Mister Sister said:

Lol Heis...Thank goodness we can finally put this nonsense to rest!

There are quite a few documented cases of successful government-funded remote viewing studies out there, though.

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Links?????

Search Russel Targ and Ingo Swann.

He's talking about project stargate. The military spent 20 million dollars and two decades only to terminate the program due to lack of results.

The AIR report concluded that no usable intelligence data was produced in the program. David Goslin, of the American Institute for Research said, "There's no documented evidence it had any value to the intelligence community."

The information from the Stargate Project remote viewing sessions was vague and included a lot of irrelevant and erroneous data, it was never useful in any intelligence operation, and project managers changed the reports so they would fit background cues.[SUP]

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According to James Randi, controlled tests by several other researchers, eliminating several sources of cuing and extraneous evidence present in the original tests, produced negative results. Students were also able to solve Puthoff and Targ's locations from the clues that had inadvertently been included in the transcripts.

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Of course the participants go around reporting they were successful. Reporting misses as hits is not a new tactic for pretend psychics. Lets not forget the researchers in project alpha thought they had something for a while too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Alpha

I thought that at first, but his use of the word successful describingremote viewing threw me off...

Actually I wasn't referencing project stargate. I was referencing the stated individuals.

Just out of curiousity, have either of you given any of the ideas on your diagram any serious thought or application in any way?

There are a million ways to disprove those things scientifically. But some things are beyond measurement. That does not make them wrong.

And why always the sarcastic dominating attitudes? I'm not coming at you in that manner, yet I always receive it in that way.

At any rate..