There must be a shit load of atheists in America.

Sandbagger · Dec 5, 2011

sso said:
as long as i dont have to do anything (including paying anything)

and we are of the understanding that this is solely for taxbreaks (quietly though )

The religion of do what you want, what the fuck do i care, if you are wise, you are good and if not then you are an idiot and on your way to become wise (it is inevitable)

we might want to work on that line though

You may have to check the BBQ once in a while if I have to piss and get us some more beers out of the fridge.
The rest is pretty agreeable though.

sso · Dec 5, 2011

Sandbagger said:
You may have to check the BBQ once in a while if I have to piss and get us some more beers out of the fridge.
The rest is pretty agreeable though.

well, you can have most of the beer, but the bbq sounds a treat

(hehehe 3feet snow outside)

but i insist we create at least a small cloud of ganja smoke before, during and after the bbq

Sandbagger · Dec 5, 2011

sso said:
well, you can have most of the beer, but the bbq sounds a treat (hehehe 3feet snow outside)

but i insist we create at least a small cloud of ganja smoke before, during and after the bbq

Sounds good to me. How about one of those incense burners that the catholics wave around filled with hash ? This would insure the cloud would remain during periods of refilling the bowl.

VILEPLUME · Dec 6, 2011

stealthman08 said:
Turn on the tv.... And you'll see many shows that make fun of religions.... Yet atheists always complain about the harassment churches cause by interfering with atheists daily lives.. Then they make fun of religious people and interfere with religious people's day.... Hypocrites.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I like being wrong, it means I learned something new.

It always depends on the person.

There are tons of asshole atheists, but tons of asshole christians.

When did we start viewing people as to what they believe in? I always thought weed smokers accepted everyone?

Hi, my name is Tom and I am a person.

Heisenberg · Dec 15, 2011

Most of America distrusts atheists as much as rapists...

Abstract
Recent polls indicate that atheists are among the least liked people in areas with religious majorities (i.e., in most of the world). The sociofunctional approach to prejudice, combined with a cultural evolutionary theory of religion's effects on cooperation, suggest that anti-atheist prejudice is particularly motivated by distrust. Consistent with this theoretical framework, a broad sample of American adults revealed that distrust characterized anti-atheist prejudice but not anti-gay prejudice (Study 1). In subsequent studies, distrust of atheists generalized even to participants from more liberal, secular populations. A description of a criminally untrustworthy individual was seen as comparably representative of atheists and rapists but not representative of Christians, Muslims, Jewish people, feminists, or homosexuals (Studies 2–4). In addition, results were consistent with the hypothesis that the relationship between belief in God and atheist distrust was fully mediated by the belief that people behave better if they feel that God is watching them (Study 4). In implicit measures, participants strongly associated atheists with distrust, and belief in God was more strongly associated with implicit distrust of atheists than with implicit dislike of atheists (Study 5). Finally, atheists were systematically socially excluded only in high-trust domains; belief in God, but not authoritarianism, predicted this discriminatory decision-making against atheists in high trust domains (Study 6). These 6 studies are the first to systematically explore the social psychological underpinnings of anti-atheist prejudice, and converge to indicate the centrality of distrust in this phenomenon.

http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&id=2011-25187-001

Most Americans would not vote for an atheist politician.

A March, 2007 survey done by Newsweek shows that 62% of people would refuse to vote for any candidate admitting to being an atheist. Republicans were, predictably, the most bigoted at 78%, followed by Democrats at 60% and independents at 45%.

In 2003, the Pew Research Center conducted a poll on "religion and public life" which asked people about their attitudes towards a variety of groups, including atheists. People's opinions of atheists break down:

Very Favorable: 7%
Mostly Favorable: 27%
Mostly Unfavorable: 19%
Very Unfavorable: 33%
So, only 34% of Americans have at least a mostly favorable attitude towards atheists; 52% have a mostly unfavorable or worse attitude.

Here are the numbers of born-again Christians who regard the impact of these groups as negative:

Islam: 71%
Buddhism: 76%
Scientology: 81%
Atheism: 92%

Here are the numbers of non-Christians who view the impact of the same groups as negative:

Islam: 24%
Buddhism: 22%
Scientology: 30%
Atheism: 50%

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotryprejudice/a/AtheistSurveys.htm

Zaehet Strife · Dec 15, 2011

lol i like that, hi im Zaehet and im a good person with good morals. patience and kindness are my most prominent virtues. my beliefs are my own, as i have always been apt to say that our denominations should be a private thing... that way we can talk about cool ideas about metaphysics without them interfearing with what we supposedly "know" lol.

for example, try going up to a christian and talk to them about the many different ways the universe might have been created, it wont happen...they already know! hahaha!

olylifter420 · Dec 15, 2011

what about the universe do you not know? please, if you ask, we can discuss

Zaehet Strife said:
lol i like that, hi im Zaehet and im a good person with good morals. patience and kindness are my most prominent virtues. my beliefs are my own, as i have always been apt to say that our denominations should be a private thing... that way we can talk about cool ideas about metaphysics without them interfearing with what we supposedly "know" lol.

for example, try going up to a christian and talk to them about the many different ways the universe might have been created, it wont happen...they already know! hahaha!

Carne Seca · Dec 15, 2011

I've worked with, am friends with, and have relatives who are atheists. Some of the most moral, ethical, responsible people I know. At least they aren't claiming a moral standard that they never seem to follow or adhere to unless it's lucrative in some way.

olylifter420 · Dec 15, 2011

i dont get it!!!!

i got a cousin who is atheist and he is one of the stupidest smartest persons i know...

Carne Seca said:
I've worked with, am friends with, and have relatives who are atheists. Some of the most moral, ethical, responsible people I know. At least they aren't claiming a moral standard that they never seem to follow or adhere to unless it's lucrative in some way.

BA142 · Dec 16, 2011

olylifter420 said:
i dont get it!!!!

i got a cousin who is atheist and he is one of the stupidest smartest persons i know...

Hey dumbfuck, just because you have the IQ of a 4 year old kid with down syndrome doesn't mean that you can talk like one!

You "got" a cousin who is one of the "stupidest" "smartest" persons you know...? Honestly you sound like a 2 year from Alabama.

Padawanbater2 · Dec 16, 2011

What was the point of that exactly?

Sit down and think about why you posted that. What were you hoping to accomplish?

olylifter420 · Dec 17, 2011

wow, are you a real person or are you some 12 year old that is mad at the world cause you got a small pecker?

if you had a brain inside your cranium, you know, the hollow space where your brain goes? anyways child, if you had something between your ears, you would understand the dichotomy in that statement, which you clearly have not. I give you praise for jumping the gun so fast and insightfully making yourself look like a jackass amongst your peers...

let me "dumb it down for you" so the child can have a better understanding... You see, when i said "the smartest dumbest person i know" is because he is as dumb as a brick, but has a full academic scholarship to one of the most prestigious,
prestigious |preˈstijəs; -ˈstē-|adjectiveinspiring respect and admiration; having high status : a prestigious academic post

Universities in the US... a

again, you make yourself an easy target and it seems you have no trouble displaying your stupidity and age...

with people like you and tsh and zs, i do not care to be correct or anything that a good discussion should entail. with the likes of pad and mindphuk who are atheists, i enjoy the discussions we have and i can agree with a lot of what they say, but with idiots like you, it is just too funny

BA142 said:
Hey dumbfuck, just because you have the IQ of a 4 year old kid with down syndrome doesn't mean that you can talk like one!

You "got" a cousin who is one of the "stupidest" "smartest" persons you know...? Honestly you sound like a 2 year from Alabama.

olylifter420 · Dec 17, 2011

I dont think he thinks before he posts... he did the same thing on another thread, clearly very intent on demonstrating to the board how close minded he is...

Padawanbater2 said:
What was the point of that exactly?

Sit down and think about why you posted that. What were you hoping to accomplish?

Purplestickeypunch · Dec 21, 2011

This pretty much explains religion. Pay attention, you might learn something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJSfdN68AsI

Zaehet Strife · Dec 21, 2011

im sure there are more people who think they know things they only really think they know... if that makes any sense.

hence, more theists than atheist.

thechemist310 · Dec 21, 2011

stealthman08 said:
Lol, you're such a dick head. Close minded fool.

Really? And believing in an old version of aesops fables is open minded?

My wife and I went on a one year hard study of many religions. Even the documentaries we watched that were pro-religion proved to us over and over that it's a huge scam. What's after death is the only thing people will never be able to definitely prove until they do it. Sheep NEED something to believe in so they don't have to believe that their shitty life is all there ever will be.

Padawanbater2 · Dec 21, 2011

It goes deeper than the comfort crutch of death to many, I'd argue most, theists though. Yes, that's a part of it, but it's not the only part. Facing death is tough, oblivion is even tougher.

You can't make yourself believe something, deep down, inside, to secure a feeling of comfort, no matter how hard you try. It would be like trying to hide something from yourself, or play chess against yourself. So there's gotta be something more than that.

olylifter420 · Dec 21, 2011

it is hard to satisfy the needs of people with differing views... I just do not understand why atheists require more then what one single person finds satisfying for them... Do you not believe in free will?

People make these decisions, albeit those who are not inundated with mass religion or televangelists because there was no external influence from anyone, just their willingness to see what the other side is like... Some accept the God they sought while others do not, it is all apart of how this world functions...

The process of acceptance is sometimes the hardest for many, i believe if this acceptance that people will be different then yourself is accepted, the world would be much better...

Padawanbater2 said:
It goes deeper than the comfort crutch of death to many, I'd argue most, theists though. Yes, that's a part of it, but it's not the only part. Facing death is tough, oblivion is even tougher.

You can't make yourself believe something, deep down, inside, to secure a feeling of comfort, no matter how hard you try. It would be like trying to hide something from yourself, or play chess against yourself. So there's gotta be something more than that.

eye exaggerate · Dec 22, 2011

Padawanbater2 said:
You can't make yourself believe something, deep down, inside, to secure a feeling of comfort, no matter how hard you try. It would be like trying to hide something from yourself, or play chess against yourself. So there's gotta be something more than that.

...religion describes comfort as a level of consciousness. A person has to be able to bring that down to earth, so to speak. It's known as christic energy, and also as 'the comforter'.

Doer · Dec 22, 2011

eye exaggerate said:
...religion describes comfort as a level of consciousness. A person has to be able to bring that down to earth, so to speak. It's known as christic energy, and also as 'the comforter'.

Yes, and it's known the world over as plain and simple joy. The problem I think is several fold.

- Joy is not from an external stimuli, we can persue happiness, but Joy will retreat if persued externally.

- any organized religion is an earthly insitution of power, like a labor union. But, in the present conotation, it exists and wisely so, imo, to bring order and a sense of belonging to a family and extends to community.

- the instituion of power was necessary to protect the flock, but power corrupts. Dogma rears up and the right-fights begin.

- the God-man that was just talking about his experience has his words twisted for power.

- the God-man emminates a powerful personal presence. Joy (called Darshan in the Indus culture)

- the God-man conducts an Initiation, laying on of hands, or some such.

- we can only talk about him when he's gone. A Religion springs up with promises, not from the God-man, but from his acolytes.

Yet, in this world of paired oposites, up/down, left/right, back/forth, love/hate, postitive/negitive, hope/dispair... the entire list...what is the opposite of Joy,
and what is the opposite of Now?

Joy is Now and Now is Joy. Get some!

There must be a shit load of atheists in America.

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