This is What Legalization Looks Like

This is what legalization looks like.

The RCMP will continue to eliminate mom and pop cannabis shops, like we’ve seen in Sechelt, Deroche, Nanaimo, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, and in other communities.

Soon, the Vancouver Police will begin shutting down this city’s dispensaries after bureaucrats pick and choose which businesses they prefer.

Legalization is about buying from Tilray, Canopy and the other licensed producers (LPs).

Visit any community in this country and you see the same thing — Walmart, Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons, Boston Pizza and other corporate chain-stores.

Local mom and pop small-businesses are few and far between because they’re suffering from excessive bureaucratic red-tape and a complicated tax-code.

The cannabis industry won’t be any different.

“Tax and regulate” means creating conditions where the rich and politically well-connected have a competitive advantage over smaller firms with less capital and fewer political strings to pull.

Legalization is simple, take it out of the criminal code. But the Trudeau government is purposely dragging its feet while the RCMP finish the job the Harper government tasked them with.

Harper didn’t have the political capital to destroy BC Bud.

The Allard injunction stopped the LPs in their tracks, while the former Prime Minister’s unpopularity reminded us that politicians in Ottawa shouldn’t be dictating rules to free, consenting adults in British Columbia or elsewhere.

Now, all of that has changed.

People are once again looking to Ottawa politicians and bureaucrats for guidance on local issues.

While Stephen Harper embodied disgust and dishonesty, Justin Trudeau is the same iron fist but wrapped in a velvet glove.

Trudeau commands trust and patience, while the police continue to fight the drug war, and the LPs continue to expand their markets at the only “legal” supply.

I was serious about Harper being the better choice.

He was a constant reminder that “we” are not the government, it is not “us” nor does it share the same values and goals.

While British Columbia gets raided, Manitoba and Ontario are discussing how their monopoly liquor stores are the best means for sales.

This is what legalization looks like.

It’s about having a cartel of producers and sellers, just like in the other sectors of the economy.

Stephen Harper began the process of legalization by setting up the LPs, and now Justin Trudeau will finish the job up by looking handsome and saying nice, superficial things.

There is a continuity of government in Canada. Your vote takes a backseat to the money-making interests that are working to capture and control this billion dollar market.

Lost me at Stephen Harper was a better choice

i have to disagree with you about Harper being the better choice. the courts forced the issue on the Government. Harper is completely against MJ in any form for any purpose. he would keep fighting us at every turn.
the Harper Government did not do anything voluntarily...but that is also about the previous Governments because Harper wasn't there for when MMAR was formed but his Government has resisted completely

well the out come that you predict may well happen..not out of the realm at all..

but getting" that other guy" out of office

has changed the way CANADIANS were starting to perceive ourselves..

if JT screws us..what else is new..?

he should watch that 2013 VERY answeredvideo he did with Steven Stairs on home grows etc] ..



Just hope he doesn't try to start a pop cover band like..well.. [you know]

TheDizzyBizzy said:

This is what legalization looks like.

The RCMP will continue to eliminate mom and pop cannabis shops, like we’ve seen in Sechelt, Deroche, Nanaimo, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, and in other communities.

Soon, the Vancouver Police will begin shutting down this city’s dispensaries after bureaucrats pick and choose which businesses they prefer.

Legalization is about buying from Tilray, Canopy and the other licensed producers (LPs).

Visit any community in this country and you see the same thing — Walmart, Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons, Boston Pizza and other corporate chain-stores.

Local mom and pop small-businesses are few and far between because they’re suffering from excessive bureaucratic red-tape and a complicated tax-code.

The cannabis industry won’t be any different.

“Tax and regulate” means creating conditions where the rich and politically well-connected have a competitive advantage over smaller firms with less capital and fewer political strings to pull.

Legalization is simple, take it out of the criminal code. But the Trudeau government is purposely dragging its feet while the RCMP finish the job the Harper government tasked them with.

Harper didn’t have the political capital to destroy BC Bud.

The Allard injunction stopped the LPs in their tracks, while the former Prime Minister’s unpopularity reminded us that politicians in Ottawa shouldn’t be dictating rules to free, consenting adults in British Columbia or elsewhere.

Now, all of that has changed.

People are once again looking to Ottawa politicians and bureaucrats for guidance on local issues.

While Stephen Harper embodied disgust and dishonesty, Justin Trudeau is the same iron fist but wrapped in a velvet glove.

Trudeau commands trust and patience, while the police continue to fight the drug war, and the LPs continue to expand their markets at the only “legal” supply.

I was serious about Harper being the better choice.

He was a constant reminder that “we” are not the government, it is not “us” nor does it share the same values and goals.

While British Columbia gets raided, Manitoba and Ontario are discussing how their monopoly liquor stores are the best means for sales.

This is what legalization looks like.

It’s about having a cartel of producers and sellers, just like in the other sectors of the economy.

Stephen Harper began the process of legalization by setting up the LPs, and now Justin Trudeau will finish the job up by looking handsome and saying nice, superficial things.

There is a continuity of government in Canada. Your vote takes a backseat to the money-making interests that are working to capture and control this billion dollar market.

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No doubt pawnd from one of your "I can't believe JT won the election" websites. It's too well written to come outta your head @dizzy. You should at least post a link to the original author before plagiarizing their work word-for-word.

Not that it makes any difference...just more of your anti-liberal rhetoric....yawn!

TheRealDman said:

Not that it makes any difference...just more of your anti-liberal rhetoric....yawn!

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Aww, little sheeple. The Liberals (capital L), are not liberals (little l). The LPC are neo liberals, which are basically Conservatives by with a smiley face. If that's what you support, admit it. But don't pretend you support liberalism if you voted for Justin. All he represents is more of Harper, but with a nice smile.

Enjoy your friendly fascism, you good little sheeple. Enjoy Bill C-51 and the TPP and corporate 'legalization' brought to you by Tweed. You know, all the shit you complained about under Harper but that you now defend under Baby Harper. Fuck, you people are so easily duped, I feel sorry for you. Do you also think the Nigerian prince who sent you an email is legitimate?

I don't blame you. You're probably too young to understand politics beyond simple black and white.

ricky1lung said:

Lost me at Stephen Harper was a better choice

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Be honest, I lost you as soon as I used words and not emoticons.

Hey Diz....

Like anyone with half a brain needs to be told we're in a cluster fuck beyond cluster fucks...

Now... Smile a bit.... you can't do shit about it!

cheers

isn't it great that the few people here on RIU got JT elected. it had nothing to do with the rest of the country.....
JT won because he was the fresh face and Canadians were tired of Harper.
he had a platform that Canadians found attractive enough to vote for him so he got a majority.
he's a politician so he's going to lie. i think that's in the job description. some of them take that a little more to heart than others...I hope he's not one of them.
eventhough he has great hair, i didn't vote for him. I wanted the Beard

" if it was not for RIU JT would've never got in!"


I just figured Id answer for Diz

Hey Ditz...your crystal ball is broken, it's puking out bullshit. Grasping at straws to try to give your childish 'predictions' some sort of relevance? Here, let me see if I can diagnose the problem.



“The RCMP will continue to eliminate mom and pop cannabis shops, like we’ve seen in Sechelt, Deroche, Nanaimo, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, and in other communities”.
Unless you can provide us with some factual proof that this is the policy of the current government, which you cannot, the statement “ The RCMP will deliver Christmas stockings to all dispensary owners across Canada” is just as factual. There is no indication either is going to happen. In fact, the recent busts were localized and in most cases only targeted a few that were accused of selling to youth. The rest were left alone.



“Soon, the Vancouver Police will begin shutting down this city’s dispensaries after bureaucrats pick and choose which businesses they prefer.”

The Vancouver police have stated publicly many times that they are not interested in the dispensaries unless they receive complaints of selling to youth. The city, who happen to employ those police, have begun licensing and regulating them. The same movement is happening in Victoria, Toronto and elsewhere. They are not going anywhere.



“Legalization is about buying from Tilray, Canopy and the other licensed producers (LPs).”

No, legalization is not about buying from any particular organization, it is about not getting busted for having weed. Maybe that's where your confusion stems from? There is currently talk from all levels of government,private businesses and unions about who should be able to sell rec weed, I wasn't aware the LP's had already been chosen as the exclusive retailers. Gotta link to that story? Didn't think so. The current LP's will be first out of the gate to supply the rec market, but there is nothing to suggest they will be the only players or have any presence past production. There is also nothing to suggest you can't grow your own if you choose.



“Visit any community in this country and you see the same thing — Walmart, Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons, Boston Pizza and other corporate chain-stores.

Local mom and pop small-businesses are few and far between because they’re suffering from excessive bureaucratic red-tape and a complicated tax-code.

The cannabis industry won’t be any different.”

Visit any community in this country and you will see mom and pop retail stores everywhere and most doing very well. Small business employs 70% of the work force in Canada. Franks Burgers operates, survives and thrives alongside Mcdonald's and Burger King. Micro and craft brweries are thriving despite the existence of Molson's and Labatt's. I have several friends that are store owners and I haven't heard that they are threatened with extinction by bureaucratic red tape or a complicated tax code. Maybe you could give us some examples? The one point you did get right is that the cannabis industry won't be any different, it too will thrive.



“Tax and regulate” means creating conditions where the rich and politically well-connected have a competitive advantage over smaller firms with less capital and fewer political strings to pull.
Everything we buy and consume is taxed and much of it is regulated. The 'rich and politically well connected' have always had an advantage whether it be in business or deciding what school your kid attends. Smaller firms with less capital need to look at smaller ventures. If they don't have million$ to invest, they can't play in the same league. Our little local craft brewery has no chance of competing with Molson's and they aren't trying to.They make a product they hope the consumer will like and build their business on that base. It's called the free market. It's been working for years.



"Legalization is simple, take it out of the criminal code. But the Trudeau government is purposely dragging its feet while the RCMP finish the job the Harper government tasked them with.”

The Trudeau government has been in office for a grand total of 37 days, if you include today, so 'purposely dragging it's feet' is a stretch even for you. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will understand society is not going to accept marijuana legalization without regulation. Just as we wouldn't accept alcohol without regulation. You may not like it, but that is the way it is. There is a lot more to legalizing something that has been demonized for most of the last century than simply removing it from the criminal code.



“Harper didn’t have the political capital to destroy BC Bud.”

No idea WTF you are talking about here.



“The Allard injunction stopped the LPs in their tracks, while the former Prime Minister’s unpopularity reminded us that politicians in Ottawa shouldn’t be dictating rules to free, consenting adults in British Columbia or elsewhere.”

Again...WTF? That is certainly not what I took out of the Allard injunction. I thought we were fighting for our right to grow. I didn't hear a lot of talk about people complaining about Ottawa dictating rules beyond that. In fact many of us complained that the lack of inspections are what led to the mmar being shut down. Free consenting adults are only free to do things within the boundaries of acceptability of society, and that means following rules and laws. That damn rule thing again,eh?

Now, all of that has changed.

People are once again looking to Ottawa politicians and bureaucrats for guidance on local issues.

Any chance you can elaborate? Which local issues are people looking to Ottawa for guidance on and why does it matter to legalization?



While Stephen Harper embodied disgust and dishonesty, Justin Trudeau is the same iron fist but wrapped in a velvet glove.

Trudeau commands trust and patience, while the police continue to fight the drug war, and the LPs continue to expand their markets at the only “legal” supply.

I was serious about Harper being the better choice.

While clearly you're drunk, if it were a contest between Harper and a pile of dog shit, obviously the pile of dog shit is the better choice. How about you give use some wondrous examples of Justin's velvet-gloved iron fist. If you think the Trudeau government had anything to do with the dispensary raids, most of which took place before he was sworn in, you are an even bigger fool that what we already took you for. The LP's are expanding their markets? Really? Has there been a sudden influx of rich, sick Canadians to buy their shit or are they just selling more out the back door?



While British Columbia gets raided, Manitoba and Ontario are discussing how their monopoly liquor stores are the best means for sales.

This is what legalization looks like.

It’s about having a cartel of producers and sellers, just like in the other sectors of the economy.
You still haven't said shit about shit except to make unfounded predictions of the future and tell us “This is what legalization looks like” We've gone through your marijuana cartels theory...it's bullshit.



Stephen Harper began the process of legalization by setting up the LPs, and now Justin Trudeau will finish the job up by looking handsome and saying nice, superficial things.

There is a continuity of government in Canada. Your vote takes a backseat to the money-making interests that are working to capture and control this billion dollar market.
So Harper began the legalization process, eh? Go figure. Last time I checked, there were several clips of him floating around saying how that would not happen under his watch. If the LP's have a part of the recreational market, it won't be because of anything Harper meant to do. Trudeau on the other hand said he would legalize. I'm pretty sure Trudeau is not interested in finishing anything hitler touched, he's too busy fixing them. And now we get into the tinfoil hat, conspiracy theorist stuff. I bet you think the government is targeting YOU with those chemtrails too, eh?

Meanwhile, while @dizzy is spewing more Liberal (L) the sky is falling rhetoric...according to one of those 1369 randomly selected Canadian Forum Research polls....JT would win an even bigger majority, if we had to do the election all over again this week.

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/canada/2015/12/11/justin-trudeau-still-riding-high-in-popular-support-poll-shows.html

doingdishes said:

i have to disagree with you about Harper being the better choice. the courts forced the issue on the Government. Harper is completely against MJ in any form for any purpose. he would keep fighting us at every turn.
the Harper Government did not do anything voluntarily...but that is also about the previous Governments because Harper wasn't there for when MMAR was formed but his Government has resisted completely

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Dont forget the libs were in power when mmar came about and they fought it tooth and nail. Cant expect the old boys club to just smile and take it now. Doesn't really matter the bm will never die just multiple. Legalization will come and more idiots will jump on the band wagon while all the old school people will say fuck it and do what we have always done and not pay a retarded sin tax or for owners/ceo's to get rich off our backs.

nobody important 666 said:

Dont forget the libs were in power when mmar came about and they fought it tooth and nail. Cant expect the old boys club to just smile and take it now. Doesn't really matter the bm will never die just multiple. Legalization will come and more idiots will jump on the band wagon while all the old school people will say fuck it and do what we have always done and not pay a retarded sin tax or for owners/ceo's to get rich off our backs.

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I don't think the Libs were against pot like you suggest. Chretien promised to decriminalize back in '02.

Anne McIlroy

Monday 7 October 2002 12.13 BST
Prime Minister Jean Chrétien seems prepared to risk the ire of the United States and decriminalise the use of marijuana.

Last week, the Liberal government laid out its agenda for this session of parliament and included plans to decriminalize cannabis.

Mr Chrétien, who has announced he will retire in 2004, is sniffing the wind for a legacy. Decriminalising marijuana has the sweet smell of something Canadians might remember him for, so the normally cautious Mr Chrétien appears to be prepared to move ahead. Not that he has ever smoked any himself.

"When I was young the word marijuana did not exist. I didn't know. I learned about the world long after that. It was too late to try it, " Mr Chrétien, 67, recently told reporters.

But his 39-year-old justice minister confesses to having inhaled. "Of course I tried it before. Obviously," said Martin Cauchon. He is keen to decriminalise marijuana, which would mean that people caught smoking the drug would get tickets instead of heavy jail sentences, punitive fines or a criminal record.

The UK took a similar step earlier this year. But Britain isn't next door to the United States, where the government of President Bush continues to push an aggressive zero tolerance drug policy, for both itself and its neighbours.

John Walters, the Bush administration's drug tsar, has publicly stated that if Canada decriminalises marijuana it could face serious disruptions to border trade, which is crucial to the Canadian economy. Other US politicians have warned of dire consequences if Canada becomes the pot patch of the north.

Fear of angering the US is one reason why Mr Chrétien has left himself room to back away from decriminalising marijuana. He has said his government will look at decriminalising pot, but has stopped short of actually promising to do so.

But momentum is clearly building. Last month a Canadian senate committee made headlines, recommending that anyone over the age of 16 be able to smoke marijuana freely.

If it is ever implemented, the recommendation would mean joints would be legally available to teenagers long before a pint of beer. The report, which filled four volumes, was extensively researched. It also urged amnesty for the 600,000 Canadians convicted of possessing marijuana.

The senate committee argued that the recreational use of pot is no more harmful that smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, both legal vices that provide healthy annual tax revenues. There is no reason marijuana shouldn't be legal and sold at the local store, the committee said.

Canada is also moving ahead with plans to allow the use of medical marijuana, for people undergoing chemotherapy or suffering from HIV/Aids.

In November, a special committee of Canada's House of Commons is due to report on the non-medical use of drugs. If it recommends decriminalisation, it will give Mr Chrétien the green light to move ahead.

There is no chance he will follow the advice of the senate committee and legalise marijuana, but decriminalisation looks increasingly like safe middle ground. Pot wouldn't be legal, but getting caught smoking it wouldn't mean a jail term and restricted job possibilities.

Yes, the US government would be upset, but a retired Mr Chrétien won't be around to face the consequences. His heir apparent, former finance minister Paul Martin, would be in charge. He might not mind standing up to Mr Bush on the issue. His aides have let it be known that he ate a hash brownie when he was a much younger man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2DVEMk95SGA

TheDizzyBizzy said:

Aww, little sheeple. The Liberals (capital L), are not liberals (little l). The LPC are neo liberals, which are basically Conservatives by with a smiley face. If that's what you support, admit it. But don't pretend you support liberalism if you voted for Justin. All he represents is more of Harper, but with a nice smile.

Enjoy your friendly fascism, you good little sheeple. Enjoy Bill C-51 and the TPP and corporate 'legalization' brought to you by Tweed. You know, all the shit you complained about under Harper but that you now defend under Baby Harper. Fuck, you people are so easily duped, I feel sorry for you. Do you also think the Nigerian prince who sent you an email is legitimate?

I don't blame you. You're probably too young to understand politics beyond simple black and white.

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Aww, little retarded one, you are a broken tool.Did it ever occur to you that if you are the ONLY person in the country with a mission to somehow link and compare Trudeau to Harper, there may be something wrong with your thinking? I guess it's nothing new for you, eh? My guess is you've been ridiculed for having low intelligence your entire life. Why is it you can never defend any statement you make or answer a single question about your position? Do you not believe in anything you write? If I made a statement that someone dissected to prove me wrong, when I thought I was right, I would certainly want to defend my position.
Who did you vote for. assshat? You sure have a big fucking opinion for someone that was too fucking lazy to cast a. ballot. You have zero interest in mmj, you probably don't even toke, you're sole purpose is to try to get others to join your 'I hate Trudeau' club. How's that working for you? It seems our prime minister's popularity continues to grow well past 70%. Are you saying that you got it right and the vast majority of Canadians are wrong? Oh, wait....you aren't FOR anybody, just AGAINST popular opinion. Oh well, you hang in there, your buddy Justin has promised more funding for mental health...maybe you can finally get the help you need, little buddy.

When you said this is what legalisation looks like! I thought I was going to be looking at some pictures not reading!

TheDizzyBizzy said:

This is what legalization looks like.

The RCMP will continue to eliminate mom and pop cannabis shops, like we’ve seen in Sechelt, Deroche, Nanaimo, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, and in other communities.

Soon, the Vancouver Police will begin shutting down this city’s dispensaries after bureaucrats pick and choose which businesses they prefer.

Legalization is about buying from Tilray, Canopy and the other licensed producers (LPs).

Visit any community in this country and you see the same thing — Walmart, Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons, Boston Pizza and other corporate chain-stores.

Local mom and pop small-businesses are few and far between because they’re suffering from excessive bureaucratic red-tape and a complicated tax-code.

The cannabis industry won’t be any different.

“Tax and regulate” means creating conditions where the rich and politically well-connected have a competitive advantage over smaller firms with less capital and fewer political strings to pull.

Legalization is simple, take it out of the criminal code. But the Trudeau government is purposely dragging its feet while the RCMP finish the job the Harper government tasked them with.

Harper didn’t have the political capital to destroy BC Bud.

The Allard injunction stopped the LPs in their tracks, while the former Prime Minister’s unpopularity reminded us that politicians in Ottawa shouldn’t be dictating rules to free, consenting adults in British Columbia or elsewhere.

Now, all of that has changed.

People are once again looking to Ottawa politicians and bureaucrats for guidance on local issues.

While Stephen Harper embodied disgust and dishonesty, Justin Trudeau is the same iron fist but wrapped in a velvet glove.

Trudeau commands trust and patience, while the police continue to fight the drug war, and the LPs continue to expand their markets at the only “legal” supply.

I was serious about Harper being the better choice.

He was a constant reminder that “we” are not the government, it is not “us” nor does it share the same values and goals.

While British Columbia gets raided, Manitoba and Ontario are discussing how their monopoly liquor stores are the best means for sales.

This is what legalization looks like.

It’s about having a cartel of producers and sellers, just like in the other sectors of the economy.

Stephen Harper began the process of legalization by setting up the LPs, and now Justin Trudeau will finish the job up by looking handsome and saying nice, superficial things.

There is a continuity of government in Canada. Your vote takes a backseat to the money-making interests that are working to capture and control this billion dollar market.

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Well said. Who cares about the name of the office holder if nothing changes on your block?! This is when demonstrations would make a difference, but people seem frozen in place by his 'popularity'.

Who gives a Fuck how popular he is? Legalize the weed, and do it OUR way!

ttystikk said:

Well said. Who cares about the name of the office holder if nothing changes on your block?! This is when demonstrations would make a difference, but people seem frozen in place by his 'popularity'.

Who gives a Fuck how popular he is? Legalize the weed, and do it OUR way!

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the Governments don't do anything OUR way unfortunately.

doingdishes said:

the Governments don't do anything OUR way unfortunately.

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Well. I'M an American citizen and I say that MY government has as much of an obligation to look out for MY needs as it does Mr Buffets' and that wealth shouldn't have anything to do with it.

YOU'RE an American citizen. What do you think? And more to the point, what are you willing to fight for?

EDIT; read the profile, you're in Canada. Assuming you're a citizen there... The above still stands.

ttystikk said:

Well. I'M an American citizen and I say that MY government has as much of an obligation to look out for MY needs as it does Mr Buffets' and that wealth shouldn't have anything to do with it.

YOU'RE an American citizen. What do you think? And more to the point, what are you willing to fight for?

EDIT; read the profile, you're in Canada. Assuming you're a citizen there... The above still stands.

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what am i willing to fight for? that depends on what you mean. am i willing to fight for my rights? I am and I am doing so right now.