Thursday Night Chop Down!

stoneyluv

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this is the cab right now. i know it looks shitty but i just got the tray from my friend so thats why its dirty. but yeah this is what i have so far. the cab is 22 inches wide 20 deep and 22 tall. like i said really small. i wanna keep the cost down low for right now. so stoney can you help me? :bigjoint:
you got something to start with. next you will want a medium to grow in. I suggest soil for a beginner. you don't have much space to work with so you should start out with one plant. you will want a container to hold the soil in. something wide and low. roots like to grow out, not down.

as for your lights, you have plenty to start out... you will need more in the future though. are they 6500K color?

you can start with a cup or something small as a container, then transplant later. Just make sure it has plenty of large drainage holes, this is very important. Do you have any seeds?

how about soil, do you have any of that? if so, what kind?

and one more question... what kind of water do you have? city, well, bottled...?
 

Dr.Grower

Member
lights are 5 6500k and one 2300k for a balanced spectrum.
i was thinking of maybe a party cup perpetual grow.
as for soil i have miracle grow organic, also mixed it with perlite 3:1 soil : perlite
i can easily get reverse osmosis water from a machine at a walmart if its really necessary, otherwise i have good old LA tap water.
i have a strawberry cough clone and a local strain called ballsack kush outdoors currently i can easily take clones from them, i also have 3 mystery seeds from the collective that i got for my 1 year anniversary there.

also im not a total novise. i have one succesful outdoor grow but its time for a small indoor grow to keep me supplied through out the year.
 

chief blunts

Active Member
Doesn't make sense to me either. I mean thats wasted energy the plants using to create seeds. How is diverting energy from just pure bud production to producing seeds making the smoke MORE potent? Sounds like stoner science to me lol
to anyone interested in riddleme's theory of hermies
"As I have said in other post it is important for Medical patients/growers to set aside ALL of the blackmarket crap, myths, hype and Bullshit and to think outside the box when it comes our medicine. In the black market it is all about look, bag appeal, smell and wieght. Males and Hermies are culled out and undesirable, most folks tend to associate these things with swag and think that it is a bad thing.

The truth is and those that breed know this, that seeded pot is MORE POTENT and FINISHES FASTER, the mango that I forced into having sex with the mind bender had amber trichs in week 6. The other thing is the nature of the resin and trichs change a bit after all the plant is now in mama bear mode protecting its young uns and with UVB present she will get frosty as all hell.

And I hear you saying WTF does this have to do with hermies? well hermies make seeds and are therefore more potent and we're not selling it so why should we worry about bag appeal? The other plus is now you have mutt seeds and no longer need to worry about the risk of ordering them online. If you have several strains going and one hermies and mixes with others now you have different F1 crosses to play with and you really just never know whether or not one of those crosses might be the best damn pot you ever smoked?

Ahh but there is more, if you get a hermie and only take steps to remove nanners or balls from the top buds in the canopy and allow the lower smaller popcorns to seed the top buds will get bigger, This is also true if you collect pollen and seed the lower buds of a non hermie. I like to think of this in human terms, we all know that the plant builds the buds in preperation for potential breeding and if unpollinated she tends to give up towards the end, the white hairs die off and she throws less and less out till we harvest her. Not true of seeded plants she will keep tryin and here is how I see this. a young teen age girl has a poster of the beeber dude hangin on the wall, she has all of his cd's, she looks at the poster everyday and imagines that her crush on him is real, she plays his songs and sighs while wishing if only? Same girl goes to a beeber concert and sees him for real screams herself into a tizzy fit of hormones ragin. Our plant prepares and hopes for a male, none shows up she gives up and dies, if one shows up she screams herself into a tizzy saying pick me pick me. Ahh but what happens when a ud does not get picked but knows there is a male present? She tries even harder to attract him, she swells, she throws out more white hairs, she pumps out more resin, she uses every feminine trick she has to make that damn boy take notice and when he doesn't she tries even harder..."

quote courtesy of riddleme.


and thanks for pulling it down stoney, see you over there!
 

stoneyluv

Well-Known Member
lights are 5 6500k and one 2300k for a balanced spectrum.
i was thinking of maybe a party cup perpetual grow.
as for soil i have miracle grow organic, also mixed it with perlite 3:1 soil : perlite
i can easily get reverse osmosis water from a machine at a walmart if its really necessary, otherwise i have good old LA tap water.
i have a strawberry cough clone and a local strain called ballsack kush outdoors currently i can easily take clones from them, i also have 3 mystery seeds from the collective that i got for my 1 year anniversary there.

also im not a total novise. i have one succesful outdoor grow but its time for a small indoor grow to keep me supplied through out the year.
It sounds like your ready!!! turn those lights on and get those plants growing... you will have 3 or 4 weeks till you need to find a larger flower area and some flowering lights. You will also probably want to LST the plant so you get the most out of your space. Here are a few links of some great LST/perpetual growers that have produced some dank smoke...

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/351131-gumballs-cmh-powered-pc-134.html

https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/374006-micros-second-pc-attempt-182-a-80.html

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/387524-fictionalgrowers-perpetual-micro-sog-2nd-7.html



to anyone interested in riddleme's theory of hermies and thanks for pulling it down stoney, see you over there!
Thanks so much for sharing that..... I have never knew it to be like that. I will have to do some experimenting now that i have a bunch of CFL lights with nothing to shine on. I would love to turn one of my diesels hermi.
 

gumball

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Again, I roll through to find awesome bud porn, awesome new lighting setup, some great seeds getting planted, and then I get the props and plug for my thread, thank you Stoney :)
 

theoldmerchant

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"The truth is and those that breed know this, that seeded pot is MORE POTENT and FINISHES FASTER"

Now I may be half this guys age....but I've still smoked a lot of pot. And nothing about this makes any sense. Sensimilia is grown for a reason. I love dirt weed and all, 20 bucks an ounce down by the border here whats not to love. Nothing against seeds, just think it's stoner science and hogwash. The energy/nutrition redistributed for seed production - can't be useful in producing more resin/thc/cbd etc.

The new setup is looking amazing stoney. LED sickness
 

stoneyluv

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thanks a bunch stoney! more rep coming your way when it lets me :]
sure thing dude!!! stop by and post anytime!!! let me know when ya get it all started!!!!!

nice lookin buds stoney.. you never cease to amaze me.. keep it up bro
Thanks lee!!! once again, I'm glad i waited the extra week!!! she is bigger already!!! I'm really holding out for the THC but if she wants to get bigger than that's great to!!!

ur girls are looking amazing good work.
Thanks man!!! It's good to have ya stop by and check em out!!!! have some rep before ys go!

Again, I roll through to find awesome bud porn, awesome new lighting setup, some great seeds getting planted, and then I get the props and plug for my thread, thank you Stoney :)
hell yea, Gumball you are the king of LST and smaller spaces!!! there is no way I'm leaving you out of that category!!!! I hope ya like the new light!!! my girls certainly do!!!

"The truth is and those that breed know this, that seeded pot is MORE POTENT and FINISHES FASTER"

Now I may be half this guys age....but I've still smoked a lot of pot. And nothing about this makes any sense. Sensimilia is grown for a reason. I love dirt weed and all, 20 bucks an ounce down by the border here whats not to love. Nothing against seeds, just think it's stoner science and hogwash. The energy/nutrition redistributed for seed production - can't be useful in producing more resin/thc/cbd etc.

The new setup is looking amazing stoney. LED sickness
I'm with you on this one!! plus i have read a few trustworthy posts that back that up. I to have mad respect for riddleme but some of his techniques i don't believe in.
 

Smokey11

Active Member
Stoney I just ordered that 240w darkstar from gotham!! Getting tired of all the heat those big CFL's are putting out! 86-88*(I have the tent open and A/C on!!no good!!)

Hope when It gets here I get as good of results as you got w/ your old one I know this one is not gonna rival your new you but hopefully old one!!
 

Hefty

Member
How do you like your 120W HTG LED panel?...think its worth the money?...what u getting for yields using it?...sorry didnt wanna PM you and theres over 100 pages to look through =x
 

Hefty

Member
tried sending a PM but lead me to a screen about an admin? not sure why but shouldent be bothering u there anyway...got alot of questions for you if u dont mind answering them just let me know if u want me to write them here or PM if u have the time of course...subd +rep
 

stoneyluv

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Stoney I just ordered that 240w darkstar from gotham!! Getting tired of all the heat those big CFL's are putting out! 86-88*(I have the tent open and A/C on!!no good!!)

Hope when It gets here I get as good of results as you got w/ your old one I know this one is not gonna rival your new you but hopefully old one!!
Smokey that is so bad ass dude!!!!! you're gonna be very happy with it!!! no heat, no bugs, no expensive power, and no huge fans!!!! don't sell that panel so short.. i think i will rival my new one. I am very intrigued on how it works for ya... I'll be watchin' thats fo sho!!!!! the only reason i can find on why people don't like them is because they are cheap, and they don't have a huge warranty. that is just stupid reasons to me!!!!!! I think it draws about 133W at the plug... I'm not positive on that though. do you happen to have a clamp style amp meter to check it with?

How do you like your 120W HTG LED panel?...think its worth the money?...what u getting for yields using it?...sorry didnt wanna PM you and theres over 100 pages to look through =x
tried sending a PM but lead me to a screen about an admin? not sure why but shouldent be bothering u there anyway...got alot of questions for you if u dont mind answering them just let me know if u want me to write them here or PM if u have the time of course...subd +rep
hey hefty!! i like your avatar!!! I really like that cheap panel a lot. I wasn't able to use it alone to flower with because i stuffed to many plants in there. If I would have only flowered two plants or maybe three small ones i would have done fine on it's own. but because I'm a plant hog, i had to supplement it with eight 23W CFL's. so far for vegging it is doing great on it's own!!!

my yields with that setup were small. i would normally get 20-30 grams dry per plant. but if I would pull one a week, that's almost a QP a month.
I hope this new light produces more. we will all find out over the next couple months!!!

Not sure why you couldn't PM me.... I don't have it turned off or anything... and i just emptied it out a couple weeks ago... you can ask me anything ya want on here... but I'll send you a PM... maybe you will be able to reply to it. And thanks for sub'n up!!! and thanks for the rep.... here is some karma rep for ya!!!
 

homer371

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here is the wonder woman....




and here are a couple of my re-flowered blueberry... she is just starting to fill in and get frosty..



hey stoney, figured i'd bump these sweet ass photos for ya :) . couldn't reply earlier, but didn't wanna forget to send some props your way on the wonder woman and the blueberry, which both look phenomenal. :clap: . so now that i've got that out of the way, i'm gonna sit back, enjoy a little amnesia haze, and report back...haha, peace bro!
 

Psychild

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I want that blueberry plant!!! :/


Looking good around here Stoney!


What size LED you think would be good for a 3'w x 2'h??? got a video of the flowering room in my grow so you can get a better idea of my room size.
 

locdawg

Member
hey Stoney i was checking out HTG supply site, at the current moment they seem to be out of the led panel you bought. they however sale led 168pot led screw in light bulbs and i was wondering if i spent the $100 and bought those would they work as good as the 1 panel you have coupled with cfl's. i went with a 1000 watt hps for m second grow and practically burnt the plants to the ground. when i got home it was 135 F. felt like the middle of summer in phoenix AZ. needless to say im scared shitless of the heat potential of the hid's and for my 1 person use and what not I'd rather not burn down my rental home, and have a lower heat temp range and safer time growing with cfl's and possibly led. check out HTG supply website and take a look at those screw in led's im talking about when you get a moment. let me know what you think about them being coupled with cfl's?

thanks man,

Locdawg,
"Stay Faded"
 

stoneyluv

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hey stoney, figured i'd bump these sweet ass photos for ya :) . couldn't reply earlier, but didn't wanna forget to send some props your way on the wonder woman and the blueberry, which both look phenomenal. :clap: . so now that i've got that out of the way, i'm gonna sit back, enjoy a little amnesia haze, and report back...haha, peace bro!
Thanks for the bump bro!!! shame it didn't last long... you know what that means?!?!?! i need to post new pics!!!! that shit you got must be the bomb!!! to high to post a report yet huh? hahahaha man, this new setup has me busy... just when i had my temps dialed in, i went and changed everything.... it's to cold with the exhaust fans on. It is currently 77.2 in the flower box. i need to go downstairs to check the temp on the veg box ( i have a wireless temp sensor in the flower box) I left two CL's on in the veg box... they are incubating my tangerine dream seeds. That's how i get to stay in the CFL sub-forum... got two on right now!!! hahahaha. I will probably have to get a couple dimmers for the fans to get it dialed in right where i want em. I'll keep working on it... maybe the fans on with a little duct tape over the pipe, this works wonders if you don't have a dimmer installed!

I want that blueberry plant!!! :/


Looking good around here Stoney!


What size LED you think would be good for a 3'w x 2'h??? got a video of the flowering room in my grow so you can get a better idea of my room size.
I just checked out your grow man. you have nice closet to grow in!!! if you were looking to go led and wanted to veg and flower with it, and could swing the bill, I would 100% go with two blackstar 240's like smokey just bought. (his shit is gonna be rockin when he gets it) but you could eisily start with just one. if you are happy with it and want a little more you could buy another one later... I know the seem expensive but the 240's are drawing 133Watts at the cord(i think) and the PAR equals a 250W-300W HPS. and it lasts for over 10 years! I've had CFL's burn out already. i buy the cheapest ones though.

hey Stoney i was checking out HTG supply site, at the current moment they seem to be out of the led panel you bought. they however sale led 168pot led screw in light bulbs and i was wondering if i spent the $100 and bought those would they work as good as the 1 panel you have coupled with cfl's. i went with a 1000 watt hps for m second grow and practically burnt the plants to the ground. when i got home it was 135 F. felt like the middle of summer in phoenix AZ. needless to say im scared shitless of the heat potential of the hid's and for my 1 person use and what not I'd rather not burn down my rental home, and have a lower heat temp range and safer time growing with cfl's and possibly led. check out HTG supply website and take a look at those screw in led's im talking about when you get a moment. let me know what you think about them being coupled with cfl's?

thanks man,

Locdawg,
"Stay Faded"
hey dawg!! i checked those out and if you just wanted the blue ones to veg with, i would think one or two could grow a plant. as for the red led to flower with, STAY AWAY!!!! those red leds only go to 650nm. MJ plants NEED 660nm to flower with any girth. 660 is a must! It is a shame they don't have the one i got.... ya know they stopped selling it a few weeks after i bought mine. i was gonna buy another one and couldn't. but like i just told psychild, blackstar 240's are the best bang for your buck at the moment. that is my opinion anyway.

but on a side note... 135F..... Damn dude!!!!! since you already have it maybe you could just get a cool tube upgrade for it. I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm just saying nothing flowers like a 1K HPS!!!! but I too would worry about burning the place down. hell i grow in steel cabinets because I fear fire!

good luck in what ever you choose.... keep me posted and let me know if ya buy anything! another fantastic panel is an ISIS-1 ($450.00)
 

calikush420

Active Member
i was thinking about buying a HPS later on down the line but it looks like i might just change that route and get a blackstar LED i've been seeing alot of really good grow's off LED, LED is taking over hahah good info stoney
 
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