"tilling" soil...

drolove

drolove

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bigbull52 said:
I dont plan on cutting up roots or anything, but read that tilling helps with drainage and since I recently had a drainage issue, was thinking if it happens again i would try this. But was concerned about the rotting...

I know dead stuff decays in the wild all the time, but i am not leaving my plant here for 5 years to let the material decay to get the benefit.
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always something to learn in this field. next time add extra perlite. some people have half their mix perlite. might have to water a day or 2 more often with all the extra perlite but you get good drainage, and more air gets to the roots for them to breathe. also using that much perlite its pretty much impossible to over water your plant.
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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drolove said:
always something to learn in this field. next time add extra perlite. some people have half their mix perlite. might have to water a day or 2 more often with all the extra perlite but you get good drainage, and more air gets to the roots for them to breathe. also using that much perlite its pretty much impossible to over water your plant.
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The drainage issue was due to incorrect pot. the pot was supposed to desolve out doors and didnt have drainage holes.. I didnt no that...

I have already transplanted into a regular plastic 1.5 gal pot. If drainage issue persists, i already plan on getting perlite.

Thanks for tip.
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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bigbull52 said:
This is the first time I've heard of "Tilling"...
I posted my question on that thread, but apparently Organics are to good to answer it...
So hopefully, some one here will....
While "TILLING" the soil, and severing roots, if you do not remove the torn roots cant they get root rot, and disturb the balance of the soil?
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Originally Posted by hotrodharley
All the way until the probe hits the bottom of the planter. I push down 5 or 6 times around the container. Several days later I do it again in different spots. I'm not carving the roots up, just severing some roots. The new and finer tips - 2 to 4 - then take up water and nutrients easier than one big one.
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He's taking about topping your roots while still in the pot. Yes some roots will rot.,the amount of roots that are severed is minuscule, and should have no adverse affect on the plant. He only has his probe which is probly only 1/4" in diameter.
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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topfuel29 said:
He's taking about topping your roots while still in the pot. Yes some roots will rot.,the amount of roots that are severed is minuscule, and should have no adverse affect on the plant. He only has his probe which is probly only 1/4" in diameter.
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That's what I meant in my post at the beginning.
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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topfuel29 said:
He's taking about topping your roots while still in the pot. Yes some roots will rot.,the amount of roots that are severed is minuscule, and should have no adverse affect on the plant. He only has his probe which is probly only 1/4" in diameter.
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Again, the question was not about the plant!

wtf... I appreciate people trying to answer the question but please, if your not going to read the question and answer the QUESTION please move on...

The question is will it effect the pH of the SOIL.. Im aware damaging roots may cause issues to your plant......

I appologize if i sound like a dick, but people telling me the plant will be stunted is irrelevant to the post and becoming quite irritating since at no point did i ask about a plant....Only the roots and soil...
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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bigbull52 said:
Again, the question was not about the plant!

wtf... I appreciate people trying to answer the question but please, if your not going to read the question and answer the QUESTION please move on...

The question is will it effect the pH of the SOIL.. Im aware damaging roots may cause issues to your plant......

I appologize if i sound like a dick, but people telling me the plant will be stunted is irrelevant to the post and becoming quite irritating since at no point did i ask about a plant....Only the roots and soil...
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I'll answer it again. NO. I said no effect the furst time i posted. Six 1/4" holes in your soil is not going to mess with your PH. There isn't enough root damage from the 6 1/4" holes to mess anything up.
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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topfuel29 said:
I'll answer it again. NO. I said no effect the furst time i posted. Six 1/4" holes in your soil is not going to mess with your PH. There isn't enough root damage from the 6 1/4" holes to mess anything up.
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In your first answer you said their would be no noticeable effects in my plant... I assumed you meant stunting due to severed roots.

Like i said, I didnt intend on sounding like an asshole, and appologize if it sounded that way.

I do appreciate the HELP i get from RIU. It just seems as much help is going around, theres twice as much ignorance.

Thank you for the post though.
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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bigbull52 said:
Again, the question was not about the plant!

wtf... I appreciate people trying to answer the question but please, if your not going to read the question and answer the QUESTION please move on...

The question is will it effect the pH of the SOIL.. Im aware damaging roots may cause issues to your plant......

I appologize if i sound like a dick, but people telling me the plant will be stunted is irrelevant to the post and becoming quite irritating since at no point did i ask about a plant....Only the roots and soil...
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Dude, nice that you apologized, but I thought when I said in the very first post in the thread that the roots severed would not be enough to affect the soil, I really did think I was answering your question.
 
prosperian

prosperian

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bigbull52 said:
Again, the question was not about the plant! wtf... I appologize if i sound like a dick, but people telling me the plant will be stunted is irrelevant to the post and becoming quite irritating ...
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See I told you BigB, right answers come at a premium, monthly membership required. Oh, and they will be the right answers for the wrong questions. I wish you luck.
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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bigbull52 said:
In your first answer you said their would be no noticeable effects in my plant... I assumed you meant stunting due to severed roots.

Like i said, I didnt intend on sounding like an asshole, and appologize if it sounded that way.

I do appreciate the HELP i get from RIU. It just seems as much help is going around, theres twice as much ignorance.

Thank you for the post though.
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Now I realize what you were thinking I had said, not what I meant......
An "OOPS" on both our sides.
You would have known what I meant if I had clarified more, and I would have known what you interpreted it as if you had elaborated more.
Water under the bridge.
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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Bakatare666 said:
The small ones that Hotrod is speaking of, are not enough of, and large enough to make a noticeable impact.
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Actually didnt even see this.

Was distracted by Aimaim explaining the process of tilling.... for some reason...idk why he did that though...

But yea, like i said, my bad guys :) lol.

*they say marijuana fucks up your interpretation skills. lol.
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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bigbull52 said:
In your first answer you said their would be no noticeable effects in my plant... I assumed you meant stunting due to severed roots.

Like i said, I didnt intend on sounding like an asshole, and appologize if it sounded that way.

I do appreciate the HELP i get from RIU. It just seems as much help is going around, theres twice as much ignorance.

Thank you for the post though.
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My fault to man. I'm pretty stoned bro. I apologize man. :) I should of been on the ball more.
 
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bmeat

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bigbull52 said:
This is the first time I've heard of "Tilling"...




I posted my question on that thread, but apparently Organics are to good to answer it...

So hopefully, some one here will....

While "TILLING" the soil, and severing roots, if you do not remove the torn roots cant they get root rot, and disturb the balance of the soil?
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no..they decompose into food for the plant..but it takes a while with things like roots. root balls belong in compost. you till soil to give it a little restart..but you have to rest soil at some point in time..crop rotation is also good becuase different crops grow different root structures and they let their own sugars into the ground..still not a solution for soil rest

the quickest things that get digested by soil are solube nutrients. i would call roots insoluble

your plant looks sick
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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bmeat said:
no..they decompose into food for the plant..but it takes a while with things like roots. root balls belong in compost.

the quickest things that get digested by soil are solube nutrients. i wouldnt call roots soluble
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Bmeat, gtfo of here.... You CLEARLY have not read the damn thread.

I wish there was a way to "BLOCK" people like there is on facebook....
 
highfirejones

highfirejones

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unless u gotta serious fuckin root problem in ur dirt I think u b fine bro, some organic matter is inevitable and part of organic process yeah man! if u have a shit ton of roots from somethin toss them in the fire pit, then take a break from the tilling and smoke a beey, none of that pussy wax, good old fasioned wees, i was hand tilling with pick and shovel today in arizona, nice out today, what was the questino
 
bigbull52

bigbull52

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bmeat said:
no..they decompose into food for the plant..but it takes a while with things like roots. root balls belong in compost. you till soil to give it a little restart..but you have to rest soil at some point in time..crop rotation is also good becuase different crops grow different root structures and they let their own sugars into the ground..still not a solution for soil rest

the quickest things that get digested by soil are solube nutrients. i wouldnt call roots insoluble

your plant looks sick
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Bakataree, where are you when needed! wheres that picture of his mutated tomato plant?
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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bmeat said:
no..they decompose into food for the plant..but it takes a while with things like roots. root balls belong in compost.

the quickest things that get digested by soil are solube nutrients. i wouldnt call roots insoluble

your plant looks sick
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your right. How long you think it takes to decompose? The roots.
 
prosperian

prosperian

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highfirejones said:
unless u gotta serious fuckin root problem in ur dirt I think u b fine bro, some organic matter is inevitable and part of organic process yeah man! if u have a shit ton of roots from somethin toss them in the fire pit, then take a break from the tilling and smoke a beey, none of that pussy wax, good old fasioned wees, i was hand tilling with pick and shovel today in arizona, nice out today, what was the questino
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Damn, look, this guy is not high yet. no wait he is...

And bmeat get out of here.
 
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