To All You MG Haters.

KickToTheHead said:

What matters is what ends up in the pipe or rollin papers, RIGHT?

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bonz said:

again nasty chenmicals, personal preference. i`m not nocking any mg users.
i would prefer just buying a bag of blood and bone meal and some bat poo. everythingt you need is in it for a complete grow and it`s cheep, and organic.
also avaliable at most garden places or home depot

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bonz said:

FOR MIRACLE GROW NUTES :

If you really MUST use Miracle Grow Nutes or Soil cuz there isn't anything else available (cost can't be a reason, MG is about the same price as some organics !)

THEN USE THIS GUIDE PLEASE!!!

(enough for 2-3 plants .. just use more jugs for more plants!)
Get regular miracle grow (Not tomato or Rose food or azalea formula!)
AND Blossom Booster (or Schultz Professional Bloom food)
get 2- 1 gallon jugs of spring water from the store (about $1 each)
and an empty jug. Mark them (A) (B) & (C) --- (B) is the empty jug!

in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.

In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.

pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)

Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.

FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFOR GOING 12/12!

MG builds up-- and will lock-up as you add the stronger bloom nutes!
as the final part of the flush-- pour in a couple pints of your new bloom nutes (see below)


Do the same with your bloom nutes, Mix ahead in larger amounts... BUT--mix Jug (A) at 1/2 rate, Jug (C) at full stregnth-- and (B) the 2 mixed.

Start with (A) the 1st day of 12/12, then again in 10 days,
then switch to (B). Do not switch to (C) until the week before you flush for harvest!
when the trichomes just start turning cloudy, give em their last dose. In 10 days, check the trichs again.. if not all cloudy, you can feed again-- But go back to (B)

MAKE SURE TO FLUSH WELL AND WAIT THE FULL 2 WEEKS TO HARVEST!

You need to flush all the Nitrogen and magnesium out of the plants-- so Flush them well, put back in the bloom room the full 2 weeks till harvest, water as needed .. but absolutely no nutes or foliar sprays!

IF you foliar fed during the grow-- be sure to use a sprayer of water to gently shower it off the plants! (also gets rid of dead bugs & dust stuck to the buds!)

USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!
it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.
If yYou Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...
And pre-harvest flushing can NOT be done on the normal 2 week schedule because of the time released nutes-- you must emergency flush when the trichs are how ya want em...



Cut the plant off at soil level. Place plant in a bucket with enough PLAIN tapwater to cover the base, but not touch lower limbs or vegetation....

Add a bubbler to the bucket to help "fool" the plant into thinking it is still alive (this only works up to 4 days before they wilt!)
Tthe plant will now use the nutrients stored in it's system . Leave under the lights at least 2 days-- up to 4 (3 is the usual amount)
IF you are one who puts their plants in the dark the last 3 days, give em at least 24 hours under lights before ya do... the photosynthesis will help the plant flush out unused nitrogen.


When using MG Fertilizer (as well as Schultz or Peter's ) Watch for:
Clawing
brown dry spots
crinckling leaves
pale new growth
Yellowing

if these happen, flush the plant, and wait 2-3 days before feeding again.
If Using MG soil and this happens, your best route is to re-plant in a bigger planter with different soil... DO NOT try to remove the existing soil from the roots of the plant!!!!

Good luck--
MG may not be the best-- but it CAN work!

HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP THE "HOW DO I USE THIS" QUESTIONS!!!

Source: Lady Zandra

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misshestermoffitt said:

You do realize that when the plant takes in food it breaks them down and turns them into food. You don't cut open a plant stem and find miracle grow crystals.

You also realize that you have no idea what is evenin the water you are using. Water is way full of chemicals. All these prescriptions people take, they pee them out and they end up in the water supply. If you test city water you will find female hormones from birth control, not to mention all the thousands of other things that are in it.

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Connoisseur177 said:

yes and what ends up in the pipe is extra chemicals, metals. from improper flushing.. if you saw the post on 'how to use it' theres quite a few directions which are not really needed when using any other soil.. people say that they can make a damn good plant using miracle gro, but that is because they have experience and know how to work around its 'weaknesses' but people who stick a seed in the miracle gro are usually on their first grow.
i did say that i didnt care who uses it, so idont know why everyone is thinking i care what you do, because you all know no better, i just find it funny that everyone jumps on me for liking properly flushed medication...
to all:stay growing, and maybe,just maybe, you will gain experience, and see that it is not the soil to use for medication, and use it for house gardening or something you arent consuming....

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bonz said:

What moon phase do you start this ritual in?

see it only took a couple posts

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Connoisseur177 said:

WHOAA!!!! dont confuse these readers... just allow them to leave the chemical soils first...then flood them with knowledge

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Zekedogg said:

Soil is soil . . .

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bonz said:

: USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!
it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.
If You Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...
Source: Lady Zandra

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Connoisseur177 said:

i have never heard anyone thats been growing for more than 4 years reccomend miracle gro...... if you cant afford a better soil then . . .

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MrFishy said:

You're gonna have to get out of your own backyard with a shovel. Poppycock! You're saying a handful of that red clay in the Eastern U.S. is the same as the rich, loamy, black soil found in other locales. That's not so.




Well, Zandra . . . I sure recommend it, but I've only been growing since 65'. There is a little learning curve, but nothing "you have to thoroughly water the container every time you water, then drain the phuque out of it" doesn't cover. After month one, I add 1/4 tsp. Epsom to all but all subsequent waterings, during veg, or if yellowing.
I suppose the rest of that post could come in handy for those scared of MG.



Now ya have, and it ain't the money. I'm just not a fad follower, which I suspect some of these pricier specialty blends may be thriving because of. I'm sure most are excellent, but I do fine and feel every penny spent on free stash diminishes the concept of free, which matters to me.
There are 99 cent flip-flops, and X hundred dollar flip-flops, yet both do the same thing, just not as long.

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