To anyone that supports PETA...

BygonEra

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...You're either a.) misinformed or b.) ok with supporting the most retarded animal welfare group in existence.

This isn't a recent article, but I just came across it after someone posted it on FB:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html

"People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is an organization that publicly claims to represent the best interest of animals -- indeed their "ethical treatment." Yet approximately 2,000 animals pass through PETA's front door every year and very few make it out alive. The vast majority -- 96 percent in 2011 -- exit the facility out the back door after they have been killed, when Pet Cremation Services of Tidewater stops by on their regular visits to pick up their remains. Between these visits, the bodies are stored in the giant walk-in freezer PETA installed for this very purpose. It is a freezer that cost $9,370 and, like the company which incinerates the bodies of PETA's victims, was paid for with the donations of animal lovers who could never have imagined that the money they donated to help animals would be used to end their lives instead. In fact, in the last 11 years, PETA has killed 29,426 dogs, cats, rabbits, and other domestic animals.

According to inspection reports by the Virginia Department of Agriculture, the PETA facility "does not contain sufficient animal enclosures to routinely house the number of animals annually reported as taken into custody... The shelter is not accessible to the public, promoted, or engaged in efforts to facilitate the adoption of animals taken into custody."
Routine inspections often found "no animals to be housed in the facility" or, at best "few animals in custody," despite thousands of them impounded by PETA annually. Since they take in thousands per year, where were they? "90% [of the animals] were euthanized within the first 24 hours of custody," according to the Virginia Department of Agriculture inspector. How can people adopt animals from PETA when they kill the animals they acquire within minutes without ever making them available for adoption? How can people adopt animals when they have no adoption hours, do no adoption promotion, and do not show animals for adoption, choosing to kill them without doing so? In fact, when asked by a reporter what efforts they make to find animals homes, PETA had no comment."



So basically, they're just taking in thousands of animals knowing they can't house them or adopt them out. I've always hated PETA with a passion, and you should too if you genuinely care about animal welfare, and this isn't surprising to me... PETA has done practically nothing beneficial or even rational in its entire existence as an organization. They're completely against killing any sort of animal for human consumption but they're perfectly fine with murdering mass amounts of healthy, adoptable puppies and kittens. Legalized horse slaughter is actually a GOOD thing but I won't go in to it. They post some fucked up videos, sure, but they're not accurate. It's such a BS organization and it really pisses me off how so many people are fooled into believing their donated money is going to a good cause.

Lol sorry for the raging rant... I just fucking hate PETA and all of its retarded employees.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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I wont bother you with my diatribe on peta and there fucked up money comes first mindset when it comes to doing the right thing period, I have spent 40 years on this planet and Ive payed very close attention to our species as a whole for the last 15 of them, my conclusion? mad dog morgan.jpg THE MORE PEOPLE I MEET THE HAPPIER I AM I AHVE A DOG!
 

sunni

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peta is well, radical to say the least theyre a corporation they wanna make money thats all no different than any other . the only thing i do is sign their petitions if i feel i stand for it. but id rather support farm sanctuaries with my money instead of peta
 

curious2garden

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Do a little research on Planned Parenthood, Susan G. Komen etc... you'll turn some ugly stuff as well. No point just thinking.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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If your gonna feed the hungry damnit better start with the damn hogs in the woods in our country first! priorities gentlemen, that and id take a hog over a dog anyday brah!
 

sunni

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i think realistically those animals wouldve died either way no?
either on the streets, in abused homes, or because they were too sick, or in other shelters which do the same thing?

is it maybe just such alarge number or outrage of because what peta stands for and that we think they should be better?
what if that was just a regular shelter?
or a few shelters put together that seems approximate of what they do too many animals they kill them

I mean if you took 100 shelters added up their tally of the year im sure it would come very close , but no one is outraged by a shelter killing animals cause "its what they have to do"?

I dunno just trying to see it from a different point, i dont agree with peta either way but ya know its the same as any other shelter
 

BygonEra

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i think realistically those animals wouldve died either way no?
either on the streets, in abused homes, or because they were too sick, or in other shelters which do the same thing?

is it maybe just such alarge number or outrage of because what peta stands for and that we think they should be better?
what if that was just a regular shelter?
or a few shelters put together that seems approximate of what they do too many animals they kill them

I mean if you took 100 shelters added up their tally of the year im sure it would come very close , but no one is outraged by a shelter killing animals cause "its what they have to do"?

I dunno just trying to see it from a different point, i dont agree with peta either way but ya know its the same as any other shelter

No, I have no problem with kill shelters honestly... in fact I support them over no-kill shelters because its a more rational approach to the situation and doesn't waste resources. I could go on about my opinion on that as well but I don't want to bore you lol.

But anyways, it's a completely different situation... PETA doesn't take animals in with the intention to adopt them out. They do it with the intention to kill them. As mentioned in the article...

How can people adopt animals from PETA when they kill the animals they acquire within minutes without ever making them available for adoption? How can people adopt animals when they have no adoption hours, do no adoption promotion, and do not show animals for adoption, choosing to kill them without doing so? In fact, when asked by a reporter what efforts they make to find animals homes, PETA had no comment.
That's what makes me mad... and what differentiates it from another shelter... but I do think my hatred for PETA in general makes me kinda bias lol.
 

sunni

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No, I have no problem with kill shelters honestly... in fact I support them over no-kill shelters because its a more rational approach to the situation and doesn't waste resources. I could go on about my opinion on that as well but I don't want to bore you lol.

But anyways, it's a completely different situation... PETA doesn't take animals in with the intention to adopt them out. They do it with the intention to kill them. As mentioned in the article...



That's what makes me mad... and what differentiates it from another shelter... but I do think my hatred for PETA in general makes me kinda bias lol.
perhaps but at least you admit it i was under the impression that peta only takes in the worst of the worst cases , which generally have to make them kill them
like this article, while it is a peta article it may give a little insight?
im not sure like i said i dont really do the whole peta thing though they do have some cute sweatshirts id buy , and i only sign petitions i feel apply to my needs and thoughts
http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2013/03/21/Why-We-Euthanize.aspx
 

GOD HERE

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I don't eat much meat, I'm pretty left leaning, but no I don't support PETA. The reason I don't support PETA has nothing to do with this article, it's more the nonsensical ideas that make up their belief system. It's one thing to have compassion for animals and help them where you can. It's another to be a hippy nutcase making every little detail in your life revolve around avoiding anything that in any way harms animals, which is a useless endeavor considering that it is impossible to live in today's interconnected world without inadvertently passing your money through a company that in some way kills/uses animal products.
 

BygonEra

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perhaps but at least you admit it i was under the impression that peta only takes in the worst of the worst cases , which generally have to make them kill them
like this article, while it is a peta article it may give a little insight?
im not sure like i said i dont really do the whole peta thing though they do have some cute sweatshirts id buy , and i only sign petitions i feel apply to my needs and thoughts
http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2013/03/21/Why-We-Euthanize.aspx
I never really beleive anything PETA says, but if that's true, than I have no problem with what they do (in terms of euthanizing animals.. I still have a huge problem with them lol).... but the article made it sound like the vast majority of the animals taken in were adoptable or weren't given a chance.
 

sunni

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I never really beleive anything PETA says, but if that's true, than I have no problem with what they do (in terms of euthanizing animals.. I still have a huge problem with them lol).... but the article made it sound like the vast majority of the animals taken in were adoptable or weren't given a chance.
i think its a case of two sides to the extreme?
one side is trying to make them look really bad for euthanizing, when of course they do because they take in animals that have no hope for survival even with medical care but they so happen to leave that part out to make them seem worse

and than the other side peta is well just extreme we all know that
but they have plenty of "saved this pet and now its adopted" stories on their blog, does every companion animal get adopted there? probably not but nor do shelters.. however most likely again because they usually only take the worst of the worst cases which they have no choice but to put the animal down

peta does some good , i will admit that , while most is radical terrorist plots. lol
they do some good like offering spaying and neutering in certain places for practically free,
their petitions like i said i usually get behind especially on things like seal clubbing in my country

I think also it makes it seem worse cause its from PETA, if it was an animal shelter no one would give two shits, because its an animal shelter however to think that PETA is killing animals is well it makes you turn ya head and read the articles. just because of what they stand for.
 
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