top 3 solvents excluding butane and why

Heptane IS NOT one of the recommended solvents..extremely difficult to purge, yield flavor less hash
Pentane is a bit more expensive than hexane...those 2 are the suggested alkanes...

That is all......

If you have further questions I will now present you with info directly from skunkpharm
Which is where you should have begun

qwizoking said:

Heptane IS NOT one of the recommended solvents..extremely difficult to purge, yield flavor less hash
Pentane is a bit more expensive than hexane...those 2 are the suggested alkanes...

That is all......

If you have further questions I will now present you with info directly from skunkpharm
Which is where you should have begun

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i went to skunkpharm and saw the process for hexane. but i had 2 questions i couldn't find the answer to on the info page. the first one is: 1.) How long do you wash or shake the buds in hexane for, is it really hours? and 2.) Is it possible to make a pliable extract that can be easily handled like shatter or wax-like texture?

Pure technical or lab grade acetone. Way more agressive than iso so a quick wash is extremely effective. A very small amount will dissolve the same amount of resin as a much greater amount of iso snd do it faster.

It is also the fastest evaporating solvent lending itself to quick evap process.

Just always get a 100% purge and if it was pure acetone you are good to go.

vaportechnician said:

i went to skunkpharm and saw the process for hexane. but i had 2 questions i couldn't find the answer to on the info page. the first one is: 1.) How long do you wash or shake the buds in hexane for, is it really hours? and 2.) Is it possible to make a pliable extract that can be easily handled like shatter or wax-like texture?

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Until the trichome heads are gone. I've gotten good results with a 30 minute soak, but I've soaked in hexane for up to 12 hours without extracting nasties.

Harder to get shatter, because of the extra purging required, but it will turn to shatter in a thin film under vacuum.

vaportechnician said:

i will try my next batch with n-heptane. just found some on amazon.com. will post results when finished. should do this maybe a week from now. thanks for you guys's help with this. hopefully you guys can patch things up and maybe others can add to this discussion.

thanks again everyone.

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n-Pentane is much easier to purge.

I know it's not as fun as using one of the "ANE's" and you most likely don't have the equipment to try but... Limonene is non polar and you don't have to run down a list of the "GEN's" to figure if you'll mutate, drop dead, or foam at the mouth. I stay outta these talks cuzz I don't want to get castigated as having an agenda to polarize or ice wax the situation, if you know what I mean. I don't understand why limonene doesn't come up more often as the last mystery guest in a line of well known non polar's that aren't changing unless we find a new planet.

SaybianTv said:

I know it's not as fun as using one of the "ANE's" and you most likely don't have the equipment to try but... Limonene is non polar and you don't have to run down a list of the "GEN's" to figure if you'll mutate, drop dead, or foam at the mouth. I stay outta these talks cuzz I don't want to get castigated as having an agenda to polarize or ice wax the situation, if you know what I mean. I don't understand why limonene doesn't come up more often as the last mystery guest in a line of well known non polar's that aren't changing unless we find a new planet.

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Check out the 347F boiling point and consider purging........... http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924496

Im only going to say this once cuzz I don't know if I can patent this but right now I gotta respond to fade's 327f boiling point cuzz yeah it makes me look crazy.

347F turns to 110F under azeotropic vacuum distillation with distilled water, N yes I can answer all those "it must be moisture" question cuzz I start with a 100% emulsified solution and end with shatter . Can I put limonene back up there now?

Thank you fade for paying me some attention, i've been dying to answer the tempurature question that nobody ask's for months.

SaybianTv said:

Im only going to say this once cuzz I don't know if I can patent this but right now I gotta respond to fade's 327f boiling point cuzz yeah it makes me look crazy.

347F turns to 110F under azeotropic vacuum distillation with distilled water, N yes I can answer all those "it must be moisture" question cuzz I start with a 100% emulsified solution and end with shatter . Can I put limonene back up there now?

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What happens to the boiling points of the other constitutes at that pressure?

110f at 28.5hg? same as any other extractions purge, final purge is higher than 28.5 in the vac oven, but the solvent purge happen's at lower pressure same temps as everyone else.
Water is what's lifting my solvent, not the flashpoint of limonene, not the pressure of the vac. Im flat out purging water and i'll keep adding water till im satisfied the limonene is purged till no emulsion can be formed. Im purging the same moisture as everyone else just way more of it in the beginning, I learned this all from you guys it shouldn't sound so strange.

115f at 29.5 those are your numbers bro, you think i knew that would be enough to remove all the water and hence could move all the limonene on my own? Nah you said it on toke city, i spent like 400 after that comment trying to build a vacuum distillation setup to try an boil water at 110f. Christ man i thought all my gear was going to implode. I made hash at 100c boiling water at first, IT SUCKED. None of this would work without the azeotropic bond.

awesome content on here since i last posted. good to see people are willing to share their solvent experiences esp ones i've never heard of or seen before (eg: limonene, n-pentane). to be on the safe side (or maybe more popular one) i think i'll use n-hexane next since it seems to be used in alot of commercial concentrates (i think pure gold uses n-hexane along with their de-parraffinning process). however, if anyone can recommend a liquid similar to butane that would produce shatter results then id prolly go for that. i still have alot of pure acetone left so i think i'll use that up until it's done. n-pentane, is that another "ane"? like hex-"ane" or but-"ane"? i like science and research but i just want something that works, like anyone else here im guessing.

Methanol - how does it compare to the rest of the solvents ??

Butane....

A tsp worth of methanol can easily find its way into your body
Whether fumes or a splash on skin, ingestion is gnarly .. Methanol poisoning can be treated with ethanol...which is cool....slightly more polar..just slightly....and more polar doesn't necessarily mean better or we would be winterizing with water

I wouldn't trust myself to use it without proper equipment..I certainly wouldn't want any of y'all using it...fuck that....it doesn't like water and evacuating the gases through water helps.....I wouldn't do it. If you can smell it, it's too much...toxic solvents nuh uh

However the concentration in quality(quality just meaning only denatured with methanol) denatured isn't as big a deal and can easily be handled

"- I gotta oven that shut's and it's expensive and both those fact's don't give me the knowledge on when and when not to shut the door. Equipment's "proper" who can tell?
- I swing one of these round, please tell me when Im at "proper equipment" Im not mad but im mad cuzz I read this forum allot before i joined. I know exactly what your making me look like,like FINSHAGGY!
- I can keep going until i prove what?"


Lol..you do seem mad bro...notice I said... "denatured isn't as big a deal and can easily be handled"...and I said exactly the faults associated, poisonous and more polar..." You can't just say I dunno man Methanol sounds sketch," sooooo......

Now about proper...in a proper lab setting ..you would have a fume hood or better for starters..everything designed to evacuate explosive gasses...you would be covered..you would be separated from the solvent and everything involved..
That stuff is proper for non hazardous materials...and I take safety very seriously.. I work around radioactive substances...this is not some scare tactic

First Responders should use aNIOSH-certified Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear (CBRN) Self Contained Breathing Apparatus(SCBA) with a Level A protective suit when entering an area where theconcentration of the contaminant is unknown. Level A protection should be used until monitoring results confirm the contaminant and the concentration of the contaminant. NOTE: Safe use of protective clothing and equipment requires specific skills developed through training and experience.

LEVEL A: (RED ZONE): Select when the greatest level of skin, respiratory, and eye protection is required. This is the maximum protection for workers in danger of exposure to unknown chemical hazards or levels above the IDLH or greater than the AEGL-2. ANIOSH-certified CBRN full-face-piece SCBA operated in a pressure-demand mode or a pressure-demand supplied air hose respirator with an auxiliary escape bottle. a totally-Encapsulating Chemical Protective (TECP)suit that provides protection against CBRN agents. Chemical-resistant gloves(outer). Chemical-resistant gloves(inner). Chemical-resistant boots with a steel toe and shank. Coveralls, long underwear, and a hard hat worn under the TECP suit are optional items.

LEVEL B: (RED ZONE): Select when the highest level of respiratory protection is necessary but a lesser level of skin protection is required. This is the minimum protection for workers in danger of exposure to unknown chemical hazards or levels above the IDLH or greater than AEGL-2. It differs from Level A in that it incorporates a non-encapsulating, splash-protective, chemical-resistant splash suit that provides Level A protection against liquids but is not airtight. ANIOSH-certified CBRN full-face-piece SCBA operated in a pressure-demand mode or a pressure-demand supplied air hose respirator with an auxiliary escape bottle. A hooded chemical-resistant suit that provides protection againstCBRN agents. Chemical-resistant gloves(outer). Chemical-resistant gloves(inner). Chemical-resistant boots with a steel toe and shank. Coveralls, long underwear, a hard hat worn under the chemical-resistant suit, and chemical-resistant disposable boot-covers worn over thechemical-resistant suit are optional items.

That is the proper way to handle methanol straight from the source...........and not even proper equipment..... just you
Its smell is not distinguishable from etoh and if you can smell it, ppm is high enough to blind you!




What does limonene have to do with anything? Its not a solvent we use..some companies add it to their hash to add flavor and make it easier to dab..limonene has been around for a while too........

My point is..people should not be using methanol or denatured unless its last resort
Noobs should not be attempting this
200 ppm will getchya

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Lol nope now..copy and paste always messes up the spelling for some reason

Hold up....

So you use limonene as your solvent instead of butane?
Why?

Now then..your reading to much into it

"A tsp worth of methanol can easily find its way into your body Whether fumes or a splash on skin, ingestion is gnarly .. Methanol poisoningcan be treated with ethanol...which is cool....slightly more polar..just slightly....and more polar doesn't necessarily mean better or we would be winterizing with water
Iwouldn't trust myself to use it without proper equipment..I certainly wouldn't want any of y'all using it...fuck that....it doesn't like water and evacuating the gases through water helps.....I wouldn't do it. If you can smell it, it's too much...toxic solvents nuh uh
However the concentration in quality(quality just meaning only denatured with methanol) denatured isn't as big a deal and can easily be handled"

The post was for liberty chicken talking about pure methanol....I personally don't feel comfortable working with that in my home setting..if you do, go for it..it won't be on my conscious...the last sentence was thrown in there specifically for you....as I'm not against denatured. I threw in the rest to be clear methanols potential..your tek is fine...I question the limonene aspect..buut hey your trying to discover something new, that's cool...just realize that many of the original solvent hash makers started off with a background in chemistry..there aren't gonna be too many ideas that haven't been thought about.....lol chill out bro, you good

And damn you type alot

PS.
Where all fucken dabbing and typing up a storm, so we don't always have our purist memory in place.

I'm really sorry I type so fucken much and change subject so much. That's my wiring and Im that guy. I also have dyslexia and im really sorry cuzz i see it but my brain correct's it before i realize it's bad grammar out the wazoo.

Right now your the guy who's mad cuzz nobody takes the fact you wrk in environment's that has taught you what true safety seriously. I listen dude so be easy just cuzz I got my own drum don't mean I don't think the one you play isn't the foundation of my own original.

"I listen dude so be easy just cuzz I got my own drum don't mean I don't think the one you play isn't the foundation of my own original."

If I wasn't surpassed by all you guys...I didn't "teach" effectively...not that I consider myself a "teacher" ..just doing what I can..
But its taken me time to get what I have..sparing time for you to achieve better



Also nothing wrong with typing how you talk..puts personality in the text
Mine is short and to the point..makes me seem kinda grumpy...notice all the dots when I type though...........yea us Texans are slow talkers......that's for me......let's my brain accept transitioning thoughts.....and type all slowed up
sorry tokin and typing