Topdawg Genetics

BeeRaasta said:

Any other tips on popping older seeds? Should I do a water soak first? Or

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I’ve never used the acid method mentioned above but I have seen more than a few people mention it. Personally I’d simply scuff the shell (nail file) around the “equator” “seam” lightly you just want to make it a bit easier to open as well as get moisture in —> then soak them in RO water with a few drops 2-3 of hydrogen peroxide for 12 hrs then I’d put them in damp towels of the same RO/HP fresh mix and put them in a ziplock bag sealed and hanging with scotch tape in a dark place that’s 70-75 degrees but that’s me

BeeRaasta said:

Any other tips on popping older seeds? Should I do a water soak first? Or

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if it was me, i would soak them for maybe 6-8hrs, then straight to vermiculite 1/4-1/2 deep under a few watts of led on a hydro farm heat mat. water for soaking i would use 3-6ml uc roots or other lite bleach/sterile solution

lite food from the jump, don't soak that vermiculite but keep it moist enough to wick moisture through, 1-2ml of insert bottle nute or lite tea or whatever straight away they perform awesome just don't fry them

goldberg71b said:

I’ve never used the acid method mentioned above but I have seen more than a few people mention it. Personally I’d simply scuff the shell (nail file) around the “equator” “seam” lightly you just want to make it a bit easier to open as well as get moisture in —> then soak them in RO water with a few drops 2-3 of hydrogen peroxide for 12 hrs then I’d put them in damp towels of the same RO/HP fresh mix and put them in a ziplock bag sealed and hanging with scotch tape in a dark place that’s 70-75 degrees but that’s me

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Thanks for the in depth instructions. My usual method is just moist paper towels in a sealed light proof container that I keep on top of a t5 fixture that’s above my clones. Germ rate has been 100% except for one and 3 days to plant. Peroxide for sterilization?

CannaBruh said:

if it was me, i would soak them for maybe 6-8hrs, then straight to vermiculite 1/4-1/2 deep under a few watts of led on a hydro farm heat mat. water for soaking i would use 3-6ml uc roots or other lite bleach/sterile solution

lite food from the jump, don't soak that vermiculite but keep it moist enough to wick moisture through, 1-2ml of insert bottle nute or lite tea or whatever straight away they perform awesome just don't fry them

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Thanks for your input. I’ve honestly never have put beans directly into a medium before the tap root is exposed. I like being able to tell if it germinated as soon as I can. I have never used a sterile solution mixed in with water. Freaks me out to do something new on fragile seeds :/

BeeRaasta said:

Thanks for the in depth instructions. My usual method is just moist paper towels in a sealed light proof container that I keep on top of a t5 fixture that’s above my clones. Germ rate has been 100% except for one and 3 days to plant. Peroxide for sterilization?

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Yes that the purpose of HP

BeeRaasta said:

Thanks for your input. I’ve honestly never have put beans directly into a medium before the tap root is exposed. I like being able to tell if it germinated as soon as I can. I have never used a sterile solution mixed in with water. Freaks me out to do something new on fragile seeds :/

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All HP is water with an extra oxygen atom it’s not harmful at all just helps keep the tap Riot clean as well as anything that could be on the husk from getting on the tap root

Edit HP is also sterile

With all the typing the tap roots could be popping through by now lol

Glad I found this thread. I think I may be posting a journal up on this page of the the white d. Maybe if any of you are so kind, would sub to it and see how the turn out is.
All 20 of them are going at once so this should be interesting.
Any input on the name of the journal? lol

Top Dawg White D grow :-/

I know someone who popped RKS beans from the 80s that were not stored in a freezer by soaking the beans for a minute in a solution of 5 parts water 1 part 91% isopropyl alcohol.

Good luck with your hunt!

BigLittlejohn said:

I know someone who popped RKS beans from the 80s that were not stored in a freezer by soaking the beans for a minute in a solution of 5 parts water 1 part 91% isopropyl alcohol.

Good luck with your hunt!

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that gets the mold off, for a good start.

I put cuts in test tubes for years(sometimes without any mold even!)
I sterilize them in a sonic toothbrush cleaner with a solution of water/bleach, water, water iso, water, then to the jello in the test tube and capped. I started washing new ready to plant seeds in a weaker solution for a second(cup splash) for the same reason, improved germ rates in 2010 for it.

No idea if this would work but it’s just a thought. I’m going to go with hydrogen peroxide and water. But has anyone heard of placing them in an ultra sonic cleaner

BeeRaasta said:

No idea if this would work but it’s just a thought. I’m going to go with hydrogen peroxide and water. But has anyone heard of placing them in an ultra sonic cleaner

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No but chemph is on another level than I am. Think about what he’s saying. Storing live cuttings in viles for YEARS

BeeRaasta said:

No idea if this would work but it’s just a thought. I’m going to go with hydrogen peroxide and water. But has anyone heard of placing them in an ultra sonic cleaner

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I ph my water to about 5.9, add a little dab of peroxide and let them soak until tails pop, I usually stick them in to soak maybe about midnight and generally tails are showing in the morning.

Once the Tails pop, those little six egg clear containers make great incubators, i use damp coca, ph,d.... close up the container and throw it underneath the T fives...

Nice to see you are in Mass...

chemphlegm said:

that gets the mold off, for a good start.

I put cuts in test tubes for years(sometimes without any mold even!)
I sterilize them in a sonic toothbrush cleaner with a solution of water/bleach, water, water iso, water, then to the jello in the test tube and capped. I started washing new ready to plant seeds in a weaker solution for a second(cup splash) for the same reason, improved germ rates in 2010 for it.

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Man if you think about it, next time you do this I'd love to see pics or even a video of your process.

chemphlegm said:

that gets the mold off, for a good start.

I put cuts in test tubes for years(sometimes without any mold even!)
I sterilize them in a sonic toothbrush cleaner with a solution of water/bleach, water, water iso, water, then to the jello in the test tube and capped. I started washing new ready to plant seeds in a weaker solution for a second(cup splash) for the same reason, improved germ rates in 2010 for it.

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Wow man that’s on a completely different level then me. I’m definitely impressed and still wrapping my head around it. Wicked sweet!

naiveCon said:

I ph my water to about 5.9, add a little dab of peroxide and let them soak until tails pop, I usually stick them in to soak maybe about midnight and generally tails are showing in the morning.

Once the Tails pop, those little six egg clear containers make great incubators, i use damp coca, ph,d.... close up the container and throw it underneath the T fives...

Nice to see you are in Mass...

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Thanks for sharing your method, appreciate it. I’ve popped many beans but old ones, I have never. And I’m assuming you’re from mass too. Awesome man. Im looking forward to see what comes this up coming year.

BeeRaasta said:

Thanks for sharing your method, appreciate it. I’ve popped many beans but old ones, I have never. And I’m assuming you’re from mass too. Awesome man. Im looking forward to see what comes this up coming year.

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Something I forgot to mention is that I change the paper towels after 48 hours and wet them in new fresh RO/HP mix

Stoked. Just grabbed this pack today.

I'm very blitzed off dynamite d and feel the need to post pics.

Anyway here's some happy CHEM91#12's at 4 weeks veg. 2 males 4 females

Not seeing a lot of variation if any. The most structural difference is between male, and female, which is to be expected. So far, its got good vigour and a nice burnt rubber stem rub.
Ill run a f2 sib chuck and check for pheno variance. If there isn't any and it turns out fire, ill catalogue it as true breeding and make an addition to my heirloom vault.
Right next to my big Sioux TOMATOES lol. Great stocking stuffers!