Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

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I had some ph issues from too much dolomite in my blend. It kept the ph higher than I wanted it to be. I added Sphagnum PM to the top 3 inches of the containers. I want to thank an excellent group who helped me out with this. hyroot, Nullis, Myco, 1itsme, Slipon, and st0wandgro. Thanks guys. I'll let you all know how it goes. Link below. Total transparency here. I won't hide my fuckups from you all. This is how we all learn and help each other and those who may run into this down the line.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/682704-high-ph-soil-too-much.html

I want green from start to finish. That is the goal.

Thanks for the props bro, that's really flattering. You're completely correct about learning from mistakes, and sharing it with others is what it's all about. If everyone would share their mistakes it would be that much quicker of a learning curve. The ones who do share are just that much more important I.M.O. You're such an intuitive gardener, I love to read your posts always something to learn. Glad to see you picked up some R.O. HPK I really think you'll like it. I'm so pumped to be getting my new hood up over my girls, it's so kick @$$! Peace out Friend!

Hey bro. I just shot you a PM.

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Here are some pictures of both bloom and a few of veg. I added both R.O. HPK and Sphagnum PM to the bloom and just the Sphagnum PM to the veg. I will add the R.O. HPK to the veg at the next watering. I did water once the PM was placed. The ph of the HPK with my well water was 6.2. I let it stand there since I have a high ph in the medium. The strain in the close ups is 420 form VISC. It smells like fruity candy. Sweet. My first Hydro experiment is actually working. A.N. ph perfect works so far. The plants in the veg area are growing well. I am confident that I will turn the problem around. Thanks for looking. Take care.

Wow, now that's a garden bro. All the girls flowering are super frosty, and all the girls vegging are incredibly green and healthy. Nice job man I just have to +rep you on those pics, it better let me. It's an honor you would trust me enough to use the R.O. hpk on your ladies, I really think it's a good product, and will give results. I like to use it in combination with the G.O. Bio-Bud, seems to do the job for me, alomg with my G.O. Bloom. When I say I use all this stuff on my girls I only use %'s of it, since I amend my soil, but in bloom they get alot hungrier so I start giving it heavier. The R.O. HPK I run full strength from the beginning, so I didn't leave out to dilute it or anything, I wouldn't do that to you brother. I started using Rare Earth by General Hydroponics in my Xplants along with my E.W.C. and mycos and other goodies I like. I'll let you know how it goes, as the Blue O.G. and Sour Blueberry are the first girls I've tried it with, besides mixing it in with my new batch of soil for some silicates and other goodies it has. I have silica stones in with my soil, but I thought I would give the powdered stuff a try, and maybe lay off the liquid a little bit. We'll see. I've also been using E.J. Meta K at 1 tsp a gal lately and the girls seem to like it.It's hard to find decent organic K supplements for mixing in your soil, I know of Green Sand and another i can't pull off the top of my head, so I've been going this route lately. I haven't got a P.M. back from anyone yet, and am very eagerly waiting, and trying to be patient and not drive my wife insane with my anticipation. Again the girls are looking amazing, your skills as a gardener can never be denied. Peace out.

Thanks. They are running full out with the upcoming projects. I like what I have read about the R.O. I trust your word. If we can't help each other and others then why are we here? I have a fresh bottle of the E.J. Meta K. I'll start using it next week to frost them up. I just bought some greensand for the upcoming Rev 2.1 TLO run. The crap I have for that run is quiet the list. I would bet you have a PM soon. No worries bro. He just responded to an email I sent him about a week ago out of order from ones I sent more recently. I think its crazy time getting things ready for the August drop. Our poor wives. I liked the story about your father in law. That is really cool. Your wife is spot on about the stress of watching the boys ride. My oldest fractured 2 of his vertebrae 2 seasons ago in Colorado while also shattering his wrist and needing some pretty heavy surgery on the wrist. This season while he was out in Colorado for the national championships he spilled it and needed to go to the same hospital again for Xrays on the back when his legs went numb. It can be nuts but its what we all love so much. We ride over 100 days a year with ease. Thats a bunch of riding. The oldest rides about 150 days a year.
Thanks for taking a look. I'll PM you a cool link to see. Take care bro.

Looking stellar Gandalf!

Keep feeding your soil and that micro-herd of beneficial critters will take care of your girls.

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Wow, now that's a garden bro. All the girls flowering are super frosty, and all the girls vegging are incredibly green and healthy. Nice job man I just have to +rep you on those pics, it better let me. It's an honor you would trust me enough to use the R.O. hpk on your ladies, I really think it's a good product, and will give results. I like to use it in combination with the G.O. Bio-Bud, seems to do the job for me, alomg with my G.O. Bloom. When I say I use all this stuff on my girls I only use %'s of it, since I amend my soil, but in bloom they get alot hungrier so I start giving it heavier. The R.O. HPK I run full strength from the beginning, so I didn't leave out to dilute it or anything, I wouldn't do that to you brother. I started using Rare Earth by General Hydroponics in my Xplants along with my E.W.C. and mycos and other goodies I like. I'll let you know how it goes, as the Blue O.G. and Sour Blueberry are the first girls I've tried it with, besides mixing it in with my new batch of soil for some silicates and other goodies it has. I have silica stones in with my soil, but I thought I would give the powdered stuff a try, and maybe lay off the liquid a little bit. We'll see. I've also been using E.J. Meta K at 1 tsp a gal lately and the girls seem to like it.It's hard to find decent organic K supplements for mixing in your soil, I know of Green Sand and another i can't pull off the top of my head, so I've been going this route lately. I haven't got a P.M. back from anyone yet, and am very eagerly waiting, and trying to be patient and not drive my wife insane with my anticipation. Again the girls are looking amazing, your skills as a gardener can never be denied. Peace out.

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There are a few, but kelp meal alone provides a good amount of K along with a laundry list of minerals and micro-nutrients.

I use Kelp meal, But I didn't know of it's K status, thanks for the heads up on that man. I guess I'm doing better than I thought on the potassium. Good lookin out. Have a great holiday, and nobody lose a finger please. Peace out.

Who knows anything about Bonsai MJ? Being totally transparent again I want to post up all my mistakes. I used Riot cubes for germination about 4 weeks ago. I had only used them 1 time before. To make a long story short, I misted the cubes too much underestimating the amount of water the cubes held. The sprouts developed a bad case of damping off. I caught the problem as early as I could and I cut the dampened parts of the roots off and placed the roots in clonex/olivias. I then treated the seedlings as clones from this point forward. I placed them in domes. Long story short I will never use the Riot cubes in this fashion again and I am a straight into dirt guy from here on. 100% my fault.

The point here is that even though I have grown for quiet awhile mistakes are still made if we are not careful or if we try new things. The bad part of the story is that I had genetics which I should not have been taking chances chances with. I am mortified to say that I had some Sun Maiden, Alexander Kush, and Daybreaker involved in this snafu. I have been extremely patient in bringing these around to where they stand today. They are actually some of my proudest work in growing up to this point.

I am posting pictures below. I would like to ask you guys if you think that once I get these to a stage of growth to clone them, if the clones will grow in a normal fashion or do I have bonsai plants forever? What do you all see as the end results here? I could care less about how long it takes to get them there. I am in it as long as it takes. I would love to get the Sun Maiden and the Alex Kush plants to adults to keep the genetics if they are nice plants in the end.

(What exactly is damping off/root rot? There are several different fungi that cause root rot. The most common culprits are Pythium, Phytopthera, and Rhizoctonia. Healthy roots should be white and clean looking. Roots with root rot are brown, grey, black, slimy or non-existent. I borrowed this info from the Proven Winners site.)

First three are Alex. Second four are SM. The rest are DB.



As a side note, trimming roots is a technique implemented in creating a bonsai plant. I was wondering if cloning these will carry on the bonsai characteristics? These plants were only physically changed not genetically, correct? Will the clones should result in normal sized plants? Thanks guys.

BTW, I just fed them for the first time last night after the pictures. Take care everyone.

Clones should grow fine. Maybe a little slow at first. Wait til there is at least 6 nodes before doing anything, cutting or topping. You should transplant those into larger pots in a 4-7 days. Take clones from lower branches.

Personally I do not like root riots. I think they are to dense. I have a much better success rate with rapid rooters. Root riots used to be cheaper. The rapid rooters came down in price so they cost the same as root riots. When using plugs, placing them in the square tray inserts works better than just standing them up in the tray. Plus the inserts raise them a little. Placing the plugs in soil is good too. I recommend using clear cups. So you can see how much the roots develop. Then it will be easier to know when to transplant them. Trimming roots will just make a larger root ball in the end.

The past few months I've been rooting in soil, no plugs. But the last batch of clones took a long time to root. Longer than prior batches. I may go pick up some rapid rooters next week.. just waiting for the aloe leaves to sublimate and dehydrate in the freezers to make aloe powder. I use that for rooting powder /gel.

Next week I'll have a new tutorial in my thread for cloning with aloe gel /powder v2.0 includes how to make aloe powder.

Hyroot is on it man, totally correct, your clones will be fine bro. Like you said physical changes, that's all. I don't personally like all the cubes and rock-wool to start seeds. I just get good starting dirt that's kind of spongey all most and pop the beans in. I don't even use a watering can on seedlings, it's all the sprayer, even if I have to go heavy with it to moisten all the dirt. Better than drowning it in a mistake somehow. I have a ton of time to treat my girls like queens, so I chose to do so, you can achieve good results though just by setting everything to be really sustainable and efficient. I just prefer the hands on cause like I said I have tons of time. I'm trying to take some natural light pics for our buddies. What a pain in the butt, I much prefer getting dirty and messing with the plants! Enjoy your holiday bro. Peace out.

GandalfdaGreen said:

I found a picture of light burn in JC Stitch's book Marijuana Garden Saver and this looks identical.

The 3rd picture in the top row and the first picture in the bottom row are 2 examples of the Kali Mist . They are 90% sativia. They are not burned from the teas at all. Thanks for looking. I am trying to learn as much as possible about organics. I am finishing up Teaming with Microbes and I just ordered Soma and the Rev's books about organically growing MJ. I have only been using teas a week and I have never witnessed growth like this before under any circumstances. Take care.

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I LOVE that book by Stitch. It's saved my garden many a time. Who knew? Wish he would add more pictures, and revise it.
I also experienced the same when switching to teas. Although, my recipe is not as sophisticated as yours, the planties got a huge boost in health from it. The aeration of teas and the addition of fungi to the soil made a huge difference.
Your garden looks awesome. Cant wait to see how the Kali Mist turns out. Good job and thanks for sharing.

Hello everyone. Sorry I have not posted pictures until now. I have been crazy busy as of late. I looked up the date of flip for these and it was June 6. The first picture is of 420/Infinity which is Burmese x Fucking Incredible. VISC/Liberty advertise it to finish between 6-8 weeks. I have run it forever and it does finish very fast. I am going to try and cut at 8 weeks unless it tells me sooner. The second set of pictures is TCH which is Super Skunk x Fucking Incredible. It will go for 9-10 weeks. Both will put on weight from here on out. The smell of the trichomes of 420/Infinity is candy sweet fruit. My best friend who has smoked like a fiend for 30 years considers this his favorite strain of all. I like it a lot but I won't go that far. The THC trichomes smell fruity sour. Kinda musky too. It reminds me of a fruity sour diesel. Both are easy plants to grow. Both strains produce very stable predictable beans. 420/Infinity will give you 4 ounces per plant per 3 gallon container in 6 weeks. 5-6 in eight weeks. THC yields way heavier in my experience. Its happy time social up smoke. I love organics and making teas. Take care.


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I don't know how to type a whistle noise, but I'm gonna have to figure it out. Those ladies are SEXY bro! They look so nice, like they want to just make you happy. Ha Ha. In all seriousness they really do look great. Perfect green, and the flowers are really swelling nice. Nice even trich coverage, with the pistils being very bright and healthy. Nice job man. I think we can safely say the teas work like gang busters. Just keep doing whatever it is you're doing. Oh I'm not sure If I had rock phosphate on the list I gave you, but I think it was 2lbs, sorry about that.(you know what they say, the mind is the next thing to go after the eyes, and my eyes have been going to crap for a while now) Peace out.

looks sexy

Here is an update on a few young ones in veg. They are getting placed into larger containers this weekend for sure. They are Alexander Kush from Cabin Fever Seed Breeders, SunMaiden from GageGreen, and Daybreaker from GageGreen. Also I have some clones that I took off all the Kali Mists, Kali Bubbas, Pineapple Expresses, Blue OG, Green Poison, Lemon Kush, BubbleGummer, Power Skunk, and White Rhino. There are 3 VISC clones also that I am going to use to run some new things on and experiment with. My first hydro experiment is going really well. Talk about easy. I am using AN ph perfect technology and it kicks ass. I just threw them into the flower room to see what happens. The 2 Tek 2 lights are great for the clones and young plants. Thanks for looking. Take care.

Good grief, you're gonna have a heck of a crop Gandalf. Way to go on all the ladies, everyone looks incredible my friend. The seedlings, the cuttings, they all look amazing. Your try at hydro looks like you've done it before bro. You have your $h1T together for sure. I don't mean to sound ungrateful for the veg pics, but where are the flowering ladies at? Ha ha. Again your garden looks great, keep up the good work man. Peace out.