Training outdoor plants; beneficial?

NietzscheKeen

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I'm too cheap/poor for that. I'm just gonna disc up the ground real well and amend the S out of it.

Good luck with yours! Thanks for all the info. I'm sure I will keep bugging you in the future, lol.
 

Tiami

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as you have seen there's no simple answer to your question. most of the best growers train their plants, many top and trim (many times) but all these huge plants receive plenty of sun and are grown in huge holes or containers amended with all kind of goodies.
 

NietzscheKeen

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Screw it, I'm going to start aclimating them in Feb and put them in the ground late March early April. I will top them a few times and maybe train the outer branches a bit. Everyone seems to have their own preferences, I will wing it and see what happens, lol.
 

aseboy101

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Nice thread I'll be keeping an eye on this one. I'll have another guerilla grow this year as well. Did fabric grow bags last year. Wasnt to happy with the yeild will be planting directly in month old amended soil. Dont feel like HAULING S### in the woods but nutes and a shovel this season. Started my girls feb 1st. Plan on topping and super cropping till may 1st then will be planting outdoor. I'll be making a new thread soon.
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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everyone has there opinion, for me, ive trained just about all my plants these past few grows, using LST for the most part, while some i topped early on, and i had a buddy who let his go natural. and in this last season ive come to find out LST is a hassle for what it does. its nice because it keeps your plant low and promotes alot of big colas, but i found i alway have cluttered branching, and towards the end have to worry about proper airflow with my fat buds leaning on on another and end having to pull branches apart with more ties. with my buddy's plant i loved the even symetrical branching of the natural growth, and no airflow problems(some branches were sagging and leaning but that could be fixed with some tressling). not as many main colas but no lack of buds, just more smaller buds, and by small i mean lots of golf ball sized buds or better. one place i do feel training is beneficial is in low light scenarios, with very low light hitting the lower half of your plant, you want to train your plant to have nice level tops. also i like what the FIM technique does for plants(some respond to it better than others). fimming slowths the growth of your main top, and allows your lower branching to grow out more, still keeping that nice symetrical branching i love. also doesnt eliminate any major growth like topping, only a small amount. for me this year, im growing them natural, and fimming if i feel it needs it.
 

TPT

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Do you guys think it can still make a difference in yield, if we start from seed in late April/beginning May, or it is better not to stress them if we start that late??
 

NietzscheKeen

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Well, I haven't done any hard training techniques. I've only tied down some branches. I don't think it is a good idea to ever stress a plant, others see it differently though. Are you worried about the plants getting to tall?
 

TPT

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No, i don't have any height problems. I just couldn't start my plants inside & i have to begin that time of the year. Althought next year i will try a small greenhouse to give me a head start. I do care about yield though, cuz my outdoor grow is the only grow i do per year. I never trained my plants so far cuz like you, i get that it wasn't so important in outdoors. Now i'm thinking to give it a try. I'll definetely try it to a couple of plants (topping, LST), but if you guys think it can be benefit in yield even if i start a little later in the year, i may try it to some more.:bigjoint:
 

TWS

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Topping helps and a lot of indica / hybrids will grow tall and bushy dependent upon pot size and length of vegg time . Op in your first pic you posted it looks like one plant is an indica and the other a Sativa. Hence the look and different methods used. Every time you top a shoot = two more shoots, three if your good at fimming. If your container can hold the root mass long enough to top the piss out of a plant in vegg it will be huge > topping all so pushes growth hormone down to the lower shoots. Plants are pretty hardy outside and take training/topping well outdoors. I have to super crop the heck out of my plants for height restrictions and im not to friendly about it when it becomes a daily thing for a bit during the streatch . LST seems to me a useless pain in the butt for big outdoor plants. They continuously bust out of their restraints, you spend a lot of time tying them over only to end up tying the big colas up during flowering.
 

TWS

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No, i don't have any height problems. I just couldn't start my plants inside & i have to begin that time of the year. Althought next year i will try a small greenhouse to give me a head start. I do care about yield though, cuz my outdoor grow is the only grow i do per year. I never trained my plants so far cuz like you, i get that it wasn't so important in outdoors. Now i'm thinking to give it a try. I'll definetely try it to a couple of plants (topping, LST), but if you guys think it can be benefit in yield even if i start a little later in the year, i may try it to some more.:bigjoint:
Your not late ! hurry up and getem Germed !
 

indcolts77

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Ok you see how your plants from last grow perfectly naturally in a way hat maximizes light exposure. It's built into the plants. With that setup (aka not training) you get slightly less yield but perfect buds from bottom to top. When you train you fuck with their growth structure and you end up shading some lower buds. Most people get around this by harvesting only the topmost ripe buds as to clear room for sun to hit the bottom buds and let them develop more...i would imagine you would still get some fluffy buds...

Point: it's a trade off either way, it's really up to you...training is fun and gives you something to do but is not necessary to get kills buds.

oh and do not top those girls until you have at least 4-5 nodes....I waited 8 weeks from sprouting the soil
 

lykarckstar420

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Ok you see how your plants from last grow perfectly naturally in a way hat maximizes light exposure. It's built into the plants. With that setup (aka not training) you get slightly less yield but perfect buds from bottom to top. When you train you fuck with their growth structure and you end up shading some lower buds. Most people get around this by harvesting only the topmost ripe buds as to clear room for sun to hit the bottom buds and let them develop more...i would imagine you would still get some fluffy buds...

Point: it's a trade off either way, it's really up to you...training is fun and gives you something to do but is not necessary to get kills buds.

oh and do not top those girls until you have at least 4-5 nodes....I waited 8 weeks from sprouting the soil
Nice man, and thank you!!!

Next question to you would be .. Doesnt growing out door mean I can rotate them ever few days , thus getting more light all around the sides of the plant. If I do that doesnt htat ensure all sides and areas get light thus taking care of the fluffy popcorn problem, to an extent of course.
Good news for me is that another seedling is sprouting today , making 5 plants, unknown strains, although 4/5 are either. LA CONFID, BLUE DREAM, HINDU KUSH and ??? too stoned to remember right now .
So I have 5 hopefully all ladies, i have a good feeling and my plan to is try something different on each plant .. why not right

top one only
top n pop one
supercrop one
and ...... top 3x one...


just a thought.
 

KushXOJ

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had to keep em short topping also lets the lower beanches catch up and become colas which increases yield

I topped her twice.. that is a sativa btw


Even if I could let them grow wild I wouldnt , I would still top and train them in some shape or form. The pros outweigh the cons imo
 

lykarckstar420

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had to keep em short topping also lets the lower beanches catch up and become colas which increases yield

I topped her twice.. that is a sativa btw


Even if I could let them grow wild I wouldnt , I would still top and train them in some shape or form. The pros outweigh the cons imo
YUMMMMM!!!

I want that, gimme it please. how do i do that ??

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