trayvan martin

really comfy slippers · Mar 22, 2012

This man could not wait to shoot someone.. Death by firing squad, if I had it my way.

pplayer104 · Mar 22, 2012

what a shame :-|

and all of us would go to jail for a bag, what a fucking society huh

desert dude · Mar 22, 2012

Carne Seca said:
The stand your ground law which the NRA is pushing all over the nation.

There is nothing wrong with the "stand your ground" law, in fact it is a pretty good idea. What happened to that kid is another matter, though. This thing stinks to high heaven.

really comfy slippers · Mar 22, 2012

Wordz said:
removed

Pathetic Award

londonfog · Mar 22, 2012

Wordz said:
removed

I'm still trying to figure you out... are you a troll ??? do want to make sensible conversation ??? do you just wish to make others laugh ?? do you just post when you are high ??

Wordz · Mar 22, 2012

no. no. yes. yes

londonfog · Mar 22, 2012

Wordz said:
no. no. yes. yes

Fair enough...thanks for the honesty

desert dude · Mar 22, 2012

Wordz said:
no. no. yes. yes

Never try comedy while stoned. You might laugh at your hilarious comments, the rest of us just roll our eyes.

Wordz · Mar 22, 2012

you live in a desert your posts have no merit.

UncleBuck · Mar 22, 2012

PraxicalExcercise said:
The 'stand your ground' law specifically and explicitely removes the duty to retreat.

(Also, FWIW, Duty to Retreat is a little more complicated than that -- you must retreat if possible to do so without putting yourself in more danger, and in some cases it would be acceptable to attack an aggressor before they touched you, particularly if you're cornered. It's basically common sense self-defense. You can kill people to defend your life, but you can't kill them to defend your stuff, and if you can avoid getting into a situation where you have to use force, you must do so. If you can't, game's on.)

thanks for the info. more proof that stand your ground laws are as retarded as this zimmerman character and that town's police force.

kevin · Mar 22, 2012

The police cheif just stepped down.

UncleBuck · Mar 22, 2012

kevin said:
The police cheif just stepped down.

well, that's good news.

now time to investigate him for aiding and abetting in the cover up of a murder and throw his ass in jail for 5-10 (wishful thinking, i know).

stoneyfockbrook · Mar 22, 2012

Stand your ground laws are not retarded concept wise

In practice though this is the result

He will be charged he will go to prison

The Feds will step in if the local DA does not

johny112 · Mar 22, 2012

Its all major bs covering up for the cop who got there first and didnt do his job right and this murderer. To me all murderes should be tortured the same way they kill and molest their victims. Instead of just being thrown in jail.

Carne Seca · Mar 22, 2012

kevin said:
The police cheif just stepped down.

Temporarily. They are acting like he needs a time out. This isn't the first time this police department has fucked up and drawn scrutiny. This is the first time it went national. The City Manager has complete control over the Police Chief's fate but he is sitting on his hands. He had a FAQ (can you believe that shit?) drawn up by the police chief and presented to the public. It was incredibly biased and had several glaring discrepancies. There is a cover up going and they are trying to drag this out as much as possible to get public attention off of the story.

cannabineer · Mar 22, 2012

UncleBuck said:
thanks for the info. more proof that stand your ground laws are as retarded as this zimmerman character and that town's police force.

I don't see "stand your ground" laws being the problem here. Zimmerman pursued his victim. "Stand your ground" and a tactical advance are not compatible.
That said, iirc in the last century a license for concealed carry came bundled with a "higher standard of care", meaning that someone carrying/drawing a gun has the duty to be able to exercise the necessary higher standard ... than would be required of an unarmed citizen. I cannot imagine "stand your ground" laws being allowed to undercut the higher standard of care, which strikes me as common sense. "If you carry a gun, you certify that you're responsible, and expose yourself to more severe penalties than is the norm." Jmo ... cn

NLXSK1 · Mar 22, 2012

cannabineer said:
I don't see "stand your ground" laws being the problem here. Zimmerman pursued his victim. "Stand your ground" and a tactical advance are not compatible.
That said, iirc in the last century a license for concealed carry came bundled with a "higher standard of care", meaning that someone carrying/drawing a gun has the duty to be able to exercise the necessary higher standard ... than would be required of an unarmed citizen. I cannot imagine "stand your ground" laws being allowed to undercut the higher standard of care, which strikes me as common sense. "If you carry a gun, you certify that you're responsible, and expose yourself to more severe penalties than is the norm." Jmo ... cn

*like*

The stand your ground law does not apply here with this situation.

That law should not be changed.

Apparently this guy was a neighborhood watch vigilante and he is going to be charged with 2nd degree murder or manslaughter at the least.

UncleBuck · Mar 22, 2012

stand your ground laws are an invitation to legal murder.

DustBomb · Mar 22, 2012

i dont understand y everyone wants him to go to jail... he def must be in protective custody because for all the love trevayn is getting someone should have def run up n that guy. he should stay out of jail and someone beats his ass and then tattoo nigger hater on his forehead which in turn will cause even more ass kicking until he dies... problem solved. oh and his family should get money from the government.. lets say 1 million... how did i get that number? thats the same number California gave Jaycee dugard who was kidnapped as a child, who had multilple chances to leave but decided to stay, now shes a millioinire.

Carne Seca · Mar 22, 2012

cannabineer said:
I don't see "stand your ground" laws being the problem here. Zimmerman pursued his victim. "Stand your ground" and a tactical advance are not compatible.
That said, iirc in the last century a license for concealed carry came bundled with a "higher standard of care", meaning that someone carrying/drawing a gun has the duty to be able to exercise the necessary higher standard ... than would be required of an unarmed citizen. I cannot imagine "stand your ground" laws being allowed to undercut the higher standard of care, which strikes me as common sense. "If you carry a gun, you certify that you're responsible, and expose yourself to more severe penalties than is the norm." Jmo ... cn

"Statistics show that since 'Stand your Ground' was enforced in Florida in 2005, justifiable homicide rates have jumped from an average of 12 justifiable homicides a year in Florida, to 33. Examples of murders with no evidence of provocation that were protected by this law include an incident in 2006 where a man directed 14 gun shots at a vehicle carrying a gang member, and a 2011 case where a man stabbed another in the head of with an ice pick following a traffic altercation."

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