Trudeau would start legalizing pot 'right away'

Gmack420

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Lol.
I have backed up every single statement I've made with valid points.
No you haven't backed you anything you've said with actual proof. Nothing not one goddam ounce of proof for the idiotic claims you're making.
1. Potatoes
2. Home grows
3. Lp's won't be the only legal option

Show some actual proof any of these points you make are based in reality. Oh wait you can't.
 

Gmack420

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TMU i took our convo as he looked at it as a business end for commercial production per province etc where rec users would still need to purchase it .. so big corp,, as for being legal to grow for everyone he had no comment
No shit? No comment to allow home grows? Only big business? And you spoke directly with JT today? Wow I'm so surprised......
 

ricky1lung

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It will be illigal because you're not a licensed producer I've said that ever fucking time you've made that same nonsensically argument but I guess I'll just say it again. If you are not a lp you will not be legally growing marijuana under a JT lead liberal party in Canada. If he really believed that marijuana should be legal he'd welcome the smear campaign Harper would use against him as it's easy to defend legalization. Again you assume he's being vague wth the details so he can't be slammed. NO! It's so he can reap the massive amounts of $$ the legal market will be worth and no one else. Ok I bet you $100 that the liberals will not allow home grows/production of marijuana if they are elected in this election. I've never changed my position. It's always been the liberals and JT are not to be trusted.

Will you back up any of these statements with a valid argument to support those positions?

You're saying an awful lot but still, you're just making short statements without providing anything to argue each point.

If I'm not an lp why wouldn't I be able to grow my own under a JT gov.

How will JT reap massive amounts of $$$ and no one else.

That's just two, you're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
 

Gmack420

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Will you back up any of these statements with a valid argument to support those positions?

You're saying an awful lot but still, you're just making short statements without providing anything to argue each point.

If I'm not an lp why wouldn't I be able to grow my own under a JT gov.

How will JT reap massive amounts of $$$ and no one else.

That's just two, you're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
Yeah the guy who just posted before you spoke directly with JT today and confirmed what I said. Big business all the way no home grows. JT is heavily invested in tweed and its success in the legal rec market. The fact Chuck is now the liberal party cfo is all the proof Canadians need to show that to be 100% accurate.
 

ricky1lung

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No you haven't backed you anything you've said with actual proof. Nothing not one goddam ounce of proof for the idiotic claims you're making.
1. Potatoes
2. Home grows
3. Lp's won't be the only legal option

Show some actual proof any of these points you make are based in reality. Oh wait you can't.

Are potatoes legal? --> Yes, and because they are legal you can grow them at home and not be forced to use other producers.

Home grows? --> You said it yourself that JT would model off of Colorado which allows home grows. Again, if that doesn't help go back to the legality of growing a legal plant such as the example used which is potatoes.

Lp's won't be the only legal option--> see JTs statement on the model he'd use and then tell us why absolutely no home grows is a more credible position.
Never mind the whole JT owns tweed, he's gonna make all the $$$ and no one else will BS.
 

ricky1lung

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TMU i took our convo as he looked at it as a business end for commercial production per province etc where rec users would still need to purchase it .. so big corp,, as for being legal to grow for everyone he had no comment
Yeah the guy who just posted before you spoke directly with JT today and confirmed what I said. Big business all the way no home grows. JT is heavily invested in tweed and its success in the legal rec market. The fact Chuck is now the liberal party cfo is all the proof Canadians need to show that to be 100% accurate.

Like tobacco and booze.
Anyone see a difference?

I've been talking about chuck and tweed for a long time already and have stated that is another reason we have the best shot with the libs for legalization.

You still won't answer the question with even an argument to support yourself as to why it will be illegal to grow a legal plant at home even if the plant count is regulated.

Seriously, leave the tweed connection and JT conspiracy out of it, the only way tweed is an issue is because it makes legalization more plausible for rec.
 
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Gmack420

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Are potatoes legal? --> Yes, and because they are legal you can grow them at home and not be forced to use other producers.

Home grows? --> You said it yourself that JT would model off of Colorado which allows home grows. Again, if that doesn't help go back to the legality of growing a legal plant such as the example used which is potatoes.

Lp's won't be the only legal option--> see JTs statement on the model he'd use and then tell us why absolutely no home grows is a more credible position.
Never mind the whole JT owns tweed, he's gonna make all the $$$ and no one else will BS.
Just because Colorado allows home grows has no bearing on JT. You assume it means we will be allowed. But seeing as it's a major aspect of true legalization if it were part of the plan it would be in the party's plans written out in black and white for all to see and read but of course it's not in the official policy because it isn't the official policy. Lol if you can't see the founder of tweed being placed into a position of great importance in jt's liberal party as a major conflict of interest for a party running on the promise of "legalization" the you really must be full retard in which case I apologize for calling you a retard. Quick up check the tag on your underwear to see if your mom wrote your name on them so we can settle this retard/just a fucking moron debate for good. And no your name isn't joe boxer I case you've forgotten.
 

Gmack420

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Are potatoes legal? --> Yes, and because they are legal you can grow them at home and not be forced to use other producers.

Home grows? --> You said it yourself that JT would model off of Colorado which allows home grows. Again, if that doesn't help go back to the legality of growing a legal plant such as the example used which is potatoes.

Lp's won't be the only legal option--> see JTs statement on the model he'd use and then tell us why absolutely no home grows is a more credible position.
Never mind the whole JT owns tweed, he's gonna make all the $$$ and no one else will BS.
So you have no proof of anything you claim. Just as I suspected. Easiest $100 I ever made.
 

ricky1lung

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So you have no proof of anything you claim. Just as I suspected. Easiest $100 I ever made.

Ok I bet you $100 that the liberals will not allow home grows/production of marijuana if they are elected in this election.

If the libs form a gov, legalize, and refuse to legalize home grows I would gladly pay you.





Ease up Farva.
 

doingdishes

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JT has said he would legalize it but then said he hasn't and won't count one dime of tax revenue because he's not sure what it'll look like if it's legalized. seems he said one thing then back tracked already. even if he gets in there's no guarantee that it will happen during his 4 years....hmmmmm
we can't say anything because we don't know what it'll look like if it's legal tomorrow. you say we can grow because it's legal...in Colorado they limit that "legal" plant to 6 per household (or something like that..the limit is 6 plants) but it's legal.....how can they bust me for 7 "legal" plants then?
that's Government logic so we will never know what will happen until it happens
 

Gmack420

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JT has said he would legalize it but then said he hasn't and won't count one dime of tax revenue because he's not sure what it'll look like if it's legalized. seems he said one thing then back tracked already. even if he gets in there's no guarantee that it will happen during his 4 years....hmmmmm
we can't say anything because we don't know what it'll look like if it's legal tomorrow. you say we can grow because it's legal...in Colorado they limit that "legal" plant to 6 per household (or something like that..the limit is 6 plants) but it's legal.....how can they bust me for 7 "legal" plants then?
that's Government logic so we will never know what will happen until it happens
I'm 100% sure I'm correct. dont worry Ricky I know you'll find some way to weasel your way out of paying me but that's ok because it won't matter I'm right your wrong. Enjoy your $20+hst kush Rick!!
 

ricky1lung

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JT has said he would legalize it but then said he hasn't and won't count one dime of tax revenue because he's not sure what it'll look like if it's legalized. seems he said one thing then back tracked already. even if he gets in there's no guarantee that it will happen during his 4 years....hmmmmm
we can't say anything because we don't know what it'll look like if it's legal tomorrow. you say we can grow because it's legal...in Colorado they limit that "legal" plant to 6 per household (or something like that..the limit is 6 plants) but it's legal.....how can they bust me for 7 "legal" plants then?
that's Government logic so we will never know what will happen until it happens

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-pot-marijuana-legalization-timeline-1.3252088

Justin Trudeau says a Liberal government would get to work "right away" on a policy to legalize and regulate the sale of marijuana, but won't commit to a timeline for legalization.

"We don't yet know exactly what rate we're going to be taxing it, how we're going to control it, or whether it will happen in the first months, within the first year, or whether it's going to take a year or two to kick in," Trudeau said on Wednesday night in Surrey, B.C.

When asked by CBC News for a specific time on the rollout of the policy, Kate Purchase, director of communications for Trudeau's campaign, said, "We haven't released a time.… We want to get the best ideas from various places and construct a Canadian model."

Purchase cited Colorado as one of many models the party is currently looking at.


In Colorado, an individual over the age of 21 is allowed to possess up to about 28 grams (one ounce) of marijuana for personal use.

When asked why the party has not accounted for tax revenues from marijuana in its financial projections, Purchase said, "We don't want to pre-suppose revenue."

Trudeau has previously suggested the Liberals don't have any plans to introduce marijuana-related policy during the campaign.

"We will continue to answer questions on this," said the Liberal leader."But the policies we're putting forward are really focused on how we're going to grow the economy and give the kind of future to Canadians that they deserve."


NDP supports pot decriminalization
The NDP favours decriminalization rather than legalization of marijuana.

"I want to make sure that everybody understands that the NDP's position is decriminalization the minute we form government," Mulcair said in response to a question at a campaign event in late August.

Mulcair emphasized his party's long-standing commitment to decriminalization.

"The NDP has had the same position for about 40 years," Mulcair said in August. "Decriminalizing marijuana is the position of the NDP, it's my position and it's something that we can do immediately."





A majority of Canadians are in favour of either decriminalizing or legalizing personal marijuana use, according to the latest findings of Vote Compass, CBC's voter-engagement survey.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says that in jurisdictions where marijuana is legal, the drug becomes "more readily available to children, more people become addicted.

"We just think that's the wrong direction for society, and I don't think that's the way most Canadians want to deal with this particular problem," Harper said.
 

doingdishes

Well-Known Member
i don't believe a word ANY politician says until it turns into action\
Jimmy Carter wanted to decriminalize back in the late 70's and that got derailed and never picked back up
 

doingdishes

Well-Known Member
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-pot-marijuana-legalization-timeline-1.3252088

Justin Trudeau says a Liberal government would get to work "right away" on a policy to legalize and regulate the sale of marijuana, but won't commit to a timeline for legalization.

"We don't yet know exactly what rate we're going to be taxing it, how we're going to control it, or whether it will happen in the first months, within the first year, or whether it's going to take a year or two to kick in," Trudeau said on Wednesday night in Surrey, B.C.

When asked by CBC News for a specific time on the rollout of the policy, Kate Purchase, director of communications for Trudeau's campaign, said, "We haven't released a time.… We want to get the best ideas from various places and construct a Canadian model."

Purchase cited Colorado as one of many models the party is currently looking at.


In Colorado, an individual over the age of 21 is allowed to possess up to about 28 grams (one ounce) of marijuana for personal use.

When asked why the party has not accounted for tax revenues from marijuana in its financial projections, Purchase said, "We don't want to pre-suppose revenue."

Trudeau has previously suggested the Liberals don't have any plans to introduce marijuana-related policy during the campaign.

"We will continue to answer questions on this," said the Liberal leader."But the policies we're putting forward are really focused on how we're going to grow the economy and give the kind of future to Canadians that they deserve."


NDP supports pot decriminalization
The NDP favours decriminalization rather than legalization of marijuana.

"I want to make sure that everybody understands that the NDP's position is decriminalization the minute we form government," Mulcair said in response to a question at a campaign event in late August.

Mulcair emphasized his party's long-standing commitment to decriminalization.

"The NDP has had the same position for about 40 years," Mulcair said in August. "Decriminalizing marijuana is the position of the NDP, it's my position and it's something that we can do immediately."





A majority of Canadians are in favour of either decriminalizing or legalizing personal marijuana use, according to the latest findings of Vote Compass, CBC's voter-engagement survey.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says that in jurisdictions where marijuana is legal, the drug becomes "more readily available to children, more people become addicted.

"We just think that's the wrong direction for society, and I don't think that's the way most Canadians want to deal with this particular problem," Harper said.
" "We don't yet know exactly what rate we're going to be taxing it, how we're going to control it, or whether it will happen in the first months, within the first year, or whether it's going to take a year or two to kick in," Trudeau said on Wednesday night in Surrey, B.C."

and you have proven my point....look at what he said there...no time line

it's a politician talking and until we SEE it happen, it just won't be. it's only his words right now.
ANYONE BUT HARPER
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
" "We don't yet know exactly what rate we're going to be taxing it, how we're going to control it, or whether it will happen in the first months, within the first year, or whether it's going to take a year or two to kick in," Trudeau said on Wednesday night in Surrey, B.C."

and you have proven my point....look at what he said there-it could take a few months or a year or.....

it's a politician talking and until we SEE it happen, it just won't be. it's only his words right now.
ANYONE BUT HARPER

I posted what you were referring to but you were inaccurate.

You mentioned taxes. He wouldn't add it to his platform because they didn't know the potential tax revenue that would be generated.

You said no guarantee it would happen in his four years, but he didn't say that.

I highlighted the Colorado connection to reinforce my good friend @Gmack420 's statement about the model he has been quoted as saying JT stated they would adopt.
 

Gmack420

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-pot-marijuana-legalization-timeline-1.3252088

Justin Trudeau says a Liberal government would get to work "right away" on a policy to legalize and regulate the sale of marijuana, but won't commit to a timeline for legalization.

"We don't yet know exactly what rate we're going to be taxing it, how we're going to control it, or whether it will happen in the first months, within the first year, or whether it's going to take a year or two to kick in," Trudeau said on Wednesday night in Surrey, B.C.

When asked by CBC News for a specific time on the rollout of the policy, Kate Purchase, director of communications for Trudeau's campaign, said, "We haven't released a time.… We want to get the best ideas from various places and construct a Canadian model."

Purchase cited Colorado as one of many models the party is currently looking at.


In Colorado, an individual over the age of 21 is allowed to possess up to about 28 grams (one ounce) of marijuana for personal use.

When asked why the party has not accounted for tax revenues from marijuana in its financial projections, Purchase said, "We don't want to pre-suppose revenue."

Trudeau has previously suggested the Liberals don't have any plans to introduce marijuana-related policy during the campaign.

"We will continue to answer questions on this," said the Liberal leader."But the policies we're putting forward are really focused on how we're going to grow the economy and give the kind of future to Canadians that they deserve."


NDP supports pot decriminalization
The NDP favours decriminalization rather than legalization of marijuana.

"I want to make sure that everybody understands that the NDP's position is decriminalization the minute we form government," Mulcair said in response to a question at a campaign event in late August.

Mulcair emphasized his party's long-standing commitment to decriminalization.

"The NDP has had the same position for about 40 years," Mulcair said in August. "Decriminalizing marijuana is the position of the NDP, it's my position and it's something that we can do immediately."





A majority of Canadians are in favour of either decriminalizing or legalizing personal marijuana use, according to the latest findings of Vote Compass, CBC's voter-engagement survey.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says that in jurisdictions where marijuana is legal, the drug becomes "more readily available to children, more people become addicted.

"We just think that's the wrong direction for society, and I don't think that's the way most Canadians want to deal with this particular problem," Harper said.
Notice the part that's lacking from the liberals.... Anything on home production! Hmmm wonder why?
 

Darth Vapour

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TBH i am guessing they will allow 1 - 2 plant open recreational grow indoor and 1 plant outdoor laws will still apply near schools and home inspection of electrical in use insurance companies will have to be notified and upon any inspections of home insurances will have to be shown etc ..
And my guess is it will increase 30 percent for home growers so again money is being given out this is for rec use dispencaries will have licenses as well as the companies that will supply them as a personal grower you cannot ..

But again its not on his top priority to think that if he becomes prime minister that is his first task at office you be foolish
 

Darth Vapour

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Like tobacco and booze.
Anyone see a difference?

I've been talking about chuck and tweed for a long time already and have stated that is another reason we have the best shot with the libs for legalization.

You still won't answer the question with even an argument to support yourself as to why it will be illegal to grow a legal plant at home even if the plant count is regulated.

Seriously, leave the tweed connection and JT conspiracy out of it, the only way tweed is an issue is because it makes legalization more plausible for rec.
With tobaco you can grow legally but you cannot sell it openly ou can give it to Family n friends only way to sell tobacco is you need to i believe pay some sort of reg fee same thing applies for alcohol curious has anyone ever seen tobacco ( leaf form ) or alcohol home made at a flea market ???
 

ricky1lung

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With tobaco you can grow legally but you cannot sell it openly ou can give it to Family n friends only way to sell tobacco is you need to i believe pay some sort of reg fee same thing applies for alcohol curious has anyone ever seen tobacco ( leaf form ) or alcohol home made at a flea market ???
Not any I've been at. Because you can't sell it.
Where was I wrong in saying it would probably be regulated like tobacco and booze?
 
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