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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I had to dispute Rm3's validity and it makes his blind followers upset.

I wanted to show that too much blue light in flower is counter productive. His plants prove it.
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Interesting

Straight HPS makes plants bloom longer and have a less then positive finish.....More blue end is needed there.....
I've believed that for more then several years....

I don't do the T5 thing like he does.....I know he mixes the bulbs and likes the deep blues....in his mix. Not familiar with the exact mix and bulbs he uses..Think he spoke on that in an old thread in the adv. section called "Light".....

What ever though. He is a damn fine grower with some different idea's.....He does what works for him, eh?
We all have opinions and we have things we wouldn't change in what we do.....So I think your use of the word "validity" is maybe the wrong word. Kinda says he's not a valid grower, and I think he is quite so... After all he does what he does to get the results he's looking for! I've never seen him say anything like "I'm right and your wrong" about that choice on lighting !!

It may well be effecting his yield or bud size but, certainly not the quality....But that's a guess as I haven't seen but a few of his stains done his way....and have not done any of them here, my way.....So I really will withhold any actual judgement on that but to what I just said about the yields, and that was a "may well be" too...

But, I getcha.....

Any Idea's on the possible fishing trip this coming year? I like to plant ahead some......LOL
Your still up by "adventure" right?
 
lilroach

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RM3 has never said his type of growing will increase yield as that's not his focus. He's spent years striving for a certain buzz....the best buzz in the world, or at least his best buzz, and shares how he's both failed and had great success along the way.

One of his creations, Colorado Thunder Fuck has been a favorite of many growers that have given it a go.....myself included.

While I don't share his fascination with trich production, I do reap the rewards of years of trial and error. For that I thank RM3 for all his work.
 
Olive Drab Green

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I had to dispute Rm3's validity and it makes his blind followers upset.

I wanted to show that too much blue light in flower is counter productive. His plants prove it.
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This isn't true. I was using 2 cheap Vipar V450s which were more blue than red. I grew two plants at the same time. Most people have seen them, and they sure as fuck weren't stretchy or spindly.
 
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lilroach

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MichiganMedGrower said:
He got mad at me because he blames me for one of his members trying ocean forest.
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Mich...

You and I really didn't spend much time on Rid's site together, and I really don't know what the hell happened over there, but in the 4 years I've been on his site he's never told someone to not use or use Ocean Forest....at least from everything I've read. It's just not his style. I grow in Happy Frog and while other's suggested going with other mediums no-one poo-pooed me for my soil choice.

His site isn't for everyone, but going on and on about him here is just bad form. May I suggest moving on. I hope all your grows are great ones.
 
homebrewer

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RM3 said:
The other truth is is in all the years the site has been up, no one's personal info has ever been compromised, you see I actually do take privacy and security very seriously 8)
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I can attest to this. Not personally but I know Rid has taken steps to keep the site and members safe and secure when worst case scenarios have happened to member(s) of the site.

MMG - Even if your address is posted in plain view on the site, no one would care.
 
whitebb2727

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Dr. Who said:
@Odin* @MichiganMedGrower

Hmm, mine says "Michigan trap Shooting Association"......???...... Must be a group of me armed with stupidly expensive shotguns and a shit ton of #8 shells at 1145fps!
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I love shooting trap, skeet, pigeons what ever you want to call it.

I use a Mossberg 835 3 1/2 inch mag. The barrel is back bored and has superb accuracy. I regularly kill squirrels and other small game out to 60 yards with it.
 
whitebb2727

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Dr. Who said:
Interesting

Straight HPS makes plants bloom longer and have a less then positive finish.....More blue end is needed there.....
I've believed that for more then several years....

I don't do the T5 thing like he does.....I know he mixes the bulbs and likes the deep blues....in his mix. Not familiar with the exact mix and bulbs he uses..Think he spoke on that in an old thread in the adv. section called "Light".....

What ever though. He is a damn fine grower with some different idea's.....He does what works for him, eh?
We all have opinions and we have things we wouldn't change in what we do.....So I think your use of the word "validity" is maybe the wrong word. Kinda says he's not a valid grower, and I think he is quite so... After all he does what he does to get the results he's looking for! I've never seen him say anything like "I'm right and your wrong" about that choice on lighting !!

It may well be effecting his yield or bud size but, certainly not the quality....But that's a guess as I haven't seen but a few of his stains done his way....and have not done any of them here, my way.....So I really will withhold any actual judgement on that but to what I just said about the yields, and that was a "may well be" too...

But, I getcha.....

Any Idea's on the possible fishing trip this coming year? I like to plant ahead some......LOL
Your still up by "adventure" right?
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I followed rm3 thread and decided to use t5. I went with a mix of my own but used his as a guideline. T5 grows mighty fine bud. I prefer a mixed spectrum. The buzz is better to me.

You remember the movie shallow hal? He told his friend it didn't matter what everyone else saw, he saw a beautiful woman.

Its the same thing. It really doesn't matter if the bud is really better or placebo it is still better. I'm sure its not placebo though. Every strain I have run seems to do better under mixed spectrum and added UV.

I have noticed an increase in N uptake with mixed spectrum with uv.
 
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homebrewer

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whitebb2727 said:
I followed rm3 thread and decided to use t5. I went with a mix of my own but used his as a guideline. T5 grows mighty fine bud. I prefer a mixed spectrum. The buzz is better to me.

You remember the movie shallow hal? He told his friend it didn't matter what everyone else saw, he saw a beautiful woman.

Its the same thing. It really doesn't matter if the bud is really better or placebo it is still better. I'm sure its not placebo though. Every strain I have run seems to do better under mixed spectrum and added UV.
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I am more or less set in my ways and I like that RM3 does his thing but one of the things that I like from his garden is the mixed T5 spectrum. But I do think facts and tests are important and I'd love to see someone (maybe myself) step up and do a side-by-side with neutral 3 party testers comparing T5s and HIDs. I have a salt water setup from a coral grower buddy of mine, I just need to find the space.
 
RM3

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homebrewer said:
I am more or less set in my ways and I like that RM3 does his thing but one of the things that I like from his garden is the mixed T5 spectrum. But I do think facts and tests are important and I'd love to see someone (maybe myself) step up and do a side-by-side with neutral 3 party testers comparing T5s and HIDs. I have a salt water setup from a coral grower buddy of mine, I just need to find the space.
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Go check Rings journal over at my place as he has totally duplicated my setup, yeppers tanning booth, ATI bulbs, same bulb ratios/mix etc.

He just harvested his first CTF and he got his highest squish yields ever plus there are smoke reports from him, his mom and a friend
 
whitebb2727

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Back on track.

Does more blue cause the need for more N?

That seems to be to broad of a question. I don't know that would hold true for all strains.

More blue causes more growth. The summer sun has more blue so that would lead me to think that they would use more N.

More red cause more stretch. would that increase the need for N?

Too many variables to make a blanket state or answer "yes" to the question.
 
homebrewer

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RM3 said:
Go check Rings journal over at my place as he has totally duplicated my setup, yeppers tanning booth, ATI bulbs, same bulb ratios/mix etc.

He just harvested his first CTF and he got his highest squish yields ever plus there are smoke reports from him, his mom and a friend
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I'm following along as he has one of my crosses in his garden. But he's not running a side-by-side and I'm not sure if he runs cuts from previous lighting setups or not? Cuts from the same mom flowered under two different spectrums and tested by neutral third parties is the way to get some answers. I'm intrigued.

In regards to squish yields, there are additives that I use that increase resin production but do nothing for potency.
 
Dr. Who

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whitebb2727 said:
that is not quite true now. YOu even admit you didn't try the meds and one of your guys even email rid back and wants more.

Look man, I get it. You are mad about something. That something really has nothing to do with here and rm3 has never done nothing of the sort here to lead me to believe he would.
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You chill too mon, we av dis tread on a recoovery path..
 
Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
No one ever reads anything but the last post it seems.

I admited I was wrong to trust him and that it doesn't really matter to me about my info.

It does matter to some others but that is his problem now.

He ignored the patient who only contacted him. He only contacted rm3 to give the CTF a fair second try in respect to me because he thought he was my friend as we were trying to help him. He stroked him a bit as he doesn't respond unless you stroke his ego. He knew that from meeting him.

I pretended I believed him because I wanted time to trade seeds and read all the info on his little site.

It was a complete waste of time and then I found out my Ch9 grown pot is very much more potent and interesting than his so I went back to my own path.

He doesn't like it when people think he is wrong.

The patient has requested Michigan meds. And real smokers with very high tolerance are my testers in Colorado. But they didn't help his tinnitus and someone posted his CTF would. It did not.

And it was reported nice but light.

Now can we get back to growing talk?

I am still only responding to others comments even here.

Maybe I can actually get growers to quote the actual researchers of these things instead of parroting about RM3 who has no data.

He has discovered absolutely nothing new in his little garden. He just thinks he has and people don't read books anymore. They just want quick answers.

I wish I could change that.
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Sigh, Your beating a dead horse with nothing more then your own speculation.......It's you who has to jump in and get all long winded! For god sake - there IS an ignore function.....
Look at it this way.
It's you who seem to be defending an ideal over another's....

It's YOU who has disrupted this thread with issues that have nothing to due with it! I don't mind a little personal banter on a friendly or funny scale.....But you threw open the doors and jumped on a table yelling in anger to all who would listen.

I tried to make everyone stop - Didn't work! Should have known better!

Personally I think it's time for @sunni to come in here and delete all the hateful drivel between you two! Some of us were actually enjoying a thread with real "advanced" content! It sure wasn't RM3 that began this crap either!

And like I said earlier. RM3 does what he does to get the results HE wants! If you don't agree - fine! It don't make either of you right! It's just how you each choose to reach your goals! Grow up.......

@Dr.Nick Riviera You got that right ol'friend!
 
lilroach

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Well it's time for me to stop visiting RUI again as there's more negative crap in one thread than the entire RM3 site.....now.

Michigan.....I've been around awhile and it's been my experience that when someone always seems angry at others is actually anger at themselves. I hope you find the inner peace you're lacking.
 
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