Trump Announces Presidential Campaign 2024

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Trump faces potential fundraising problem as megadonors jump ship
Former President Trump could face a surprising problem as he mounts his 2024 campaign: a cash crunch as wealthy megadonors gravitate toward Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) and other potential contenders. A loyal army of small-dollar donors will power Trump’s presidential bid, potentially making up for the exodus of billionaire backers, but they’ve shown signs of scaling back their giving.

And while Trump’s political machine is starting off with a war chest of more than $110 million, federal law prevents him from using most of that money to advance his White House campaign. Meanwhile, Trump’s political committees are shelling out huge sums on his legal defense, totals that only seem likely to rise after the Department of Justice on Friday appointed a special counsel to oversee probes into him.

Billionaire Republican donors are splitting from Trump after the far-below-expectations of last week’s midterm elections, dealing a serious blow to his fundraising prospects.

Hedge fund manager Ken Griffin, the second-most prolific GOP donor of the midterms, said Tuesday that he would support DeSantis over Trump, pointing to the Florida governor’s dominant reelection victory in a state that was considered competitive until recently. “I’d like to think that the Republican Party is ready to move on from somebody who has been for this party a three-time loser,” Griffin said at Bloomberg’s New Economy Forum in Singapore, referring to the last three election cycles. Griffin, who bankrolled a pro-Trump super PAC in previous cycles, gave $5 million to a political committee aligned with DeSantis last year.

Stephen Schwarzman, CEO of private equity giant Blackstone and a top Republican donor, announced Wednesday that he would support a challenger to Trump in 2024. “America does better when its leaders are rooted in today and tomorrow, not today and yesterday,” Schwarzman said in a statement. “It is time for the Republican Party to turn to a new generation of leaders and I intend to support one of them in the presidential primaries.” Robert and Rebekah Mercer, the top donors to Trump’s 2016 campaign, are also done backing the former president, CNBC reported on Friday.

Several prominent Republicans who supported Trump’s 2020 reelection bid — including South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, former Vice President Mike Pence and other possible 2024 challengers — have made similar statements calling for new leadership after a disastrous midterm election for Trump-endorsed candidates. “We were told we’d get tired of winning. But I’m tired of losing,” former Trump administration Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, another potential 2024 hopeful, tweeted on Friday. “And so are most Republicans.”
Trump will at least be able to tap his enormous list of online, small-dollar donors who powered his near-record $774 million fundraising haul in 2020.

But after bringing in big money in 2021, the Trump operation’s fundraising slowed in the first half of this year, forcing it to spend more on texts, emails, online ads and other appeals to donors. Trump-affiliated committees spent more than they raised in the third quarter of 2022.
Trump, who is a billionaire himself, spent $66 million of his own money on his 2016 presidential campaign. But he opted not to self-fund his 2020 reelection run.

Following his official 2024 announcement, the Trump campaign will also now be on the hook for millions of dollars in legal fees that were being paid by the Republican National Committee. “We cannot pay legal bills for any candidate that’s announced,” RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel told CNN’s Dana Bash, noting that the committee can’t make in-kind contributions to a declared candidate.

Political committees controlled by or closely affiliated with Trump have a total of nearly $112 million in the bank, according to an analysis of the most recent Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings by nonpartisan research group OpenSecrets. That would appear to give Trump a substantial headstart over his GOP primary opponents. But only $13.5 million of that total can legally be used to bolster Trump’s 2024 aspirations.
That’s because most of the money was raised by a leadership PAC and other committees that are not officially part of Trump’s presidential campaign. Federal law prohibits candidates from double-dipping into donor funds this way, thus bypassing candidate contribution limits and transparency rules. In an effort to dodge those restrictions, Trump’s leadership PAC last month transferred $20 million to a super PAC called MAGA, Inc. The group is run by Trump aides, even though super PACs are supposed to be independent of candidates.

The nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center filed a complaint before the FEC this week alleging that the transfer violated federal law prohibiting candidates and their committees from transferring funds to “soft money” entities such as super PACs that can raise and spend unlimited funds.
Saurav Ghosh, director of federal campaign finance reform at the Campaign Legal Center, said that the Trump campaign strategy is a “very clear violation” of federal law, but it’s still unclear whether the FEC will act in a timely manner, or at all, to prevent wrongdoing.
The commission, which is divided equally along partisan lines, has rarely slapped penalties on campaign committees in recent years. Republican commissioners have dismissed every complaint against Trump, despite two-dozen instances of the FEC’s nonpartisan lawyers recommending an investigation.

“The FEC’s track record of enforcing soft money violations is pretty poor,” Ghosh said. “And you pair that with the fact that they have an equally bad, if not worse, track record of enforcing really any campaign finance laws against Donald Trump.”

If Trump is successful in evading campaign finance laws, he could encourage DeSantis to do the same.
The Florida governor hasn’t said that he will run for president, but he broke state-level fundraising records in his 2022 gubernatorial contest and spent only a fraction of the total. DeSantis ended the race with around $90 million in the bank between his campaign committee and affiliated PAC.
“If he were to try a similar maneuver as Trump and simply transfer all of that money over to a super PAC that’s geared towards supporting his candidacy, there’s no question that that would be another, even more clear-cut soft money violation,” Ghosh said.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.rollitup.org/t/ok-then-biden-2020.994745/post-17118538

I think it is that Biden has gotten things done for virtually everyone in America and it gets a bit lost is the noise. The above list doesn't even cover a lot of the things he has signed for vets.

I agree though, the next disaster could wreck his presidency if he is not able to resolve it quickly like he has done every other time so far (like the baby formula bullshit)).



The thing I like about Biden, is that you really can't know what you say is true or not, because Biden is happy to let others take the spotlight if it gets things done.

And sure Biden did not rally 'the world' because basically half the planet is under the rule of a dictator. But, it is worth remembering that prior to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Biden was out front saying that the attack was going to happen and working to get NATO to understand it behind the scenes. At that point even Zelensky was talking down the imminent Russian invasion in public. That preparation by outing Putin's plan bought Ukraine those critical weeks early on (not waiting around for politicians to see the attack then respond to work to get Ukraine what it needed) that ultimately helped to stall the Russian military's advance.
hey, i found trump's page like that, wanna see?
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/#table
 

schuylaar

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Trump faces potential fundraising problem as megadonors jump ship
Former President Trump could face a surprising problem as he mounts his 2024 campaign: a cash crunch as wealthy megadonors gravitate toward Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) and other potential contenders. A loyal army of small-dollar donors will power Trump’s presidential bid, potentially making up for the exodus of billionaire backers, but they’ve shown signs of scaling back their giving.

And while Trump’s political machine is starting off with a war chest of more than $110 million, federal law prevents him from using most of that money to advance his White House campaign. Meanwhile, Trump’s political committees are shelling out huge sums on his legal defense, totals that only seem likely to rise after the Department of Justice on Friday appointed a special counsel to oversee probes into him.

Billionaire Republican donors are splitting from Trump after the far-below-expectations of last week’s midterm elections, dealing a serious blow to his fundraising prospects.

Hedge fund manager Ken Griffin, the second-most prolific GOP donor of the midterms, said Tuesday that he would support DeSantis over Trump, pointing to the Florida governor’s dominant reelection victory in a state that was considered competitive until recently. “I’d like to think that the Republican Party is ready to move on from somebody who has been for this party a three-time loser,” Griffin said at Bloomberg’s New Economy Forum in Singapore, referring to the last three election cycles. Griffin, who bankrolled a pro-Trump super PAC in previous cycles, gave $5 million to a political committee aligned with DeSantis last year.

Stephen Schwarzman, CEO of private equity giant Blackstone and a top Republican donor, announced Wednesday that he would support a challenger to Trump in 2024. “America does better when its leaders are rooted in today and tomorrow, not today and yesterday,” Schwarzman said in a statement. “It is time for the Republican Party to turn to a new generation of leaders and I intend to support one of them in the presidential primaries.” Robert and Rebekah Mercer, the top donors to Trump’s 2016 campaign, are also done backing the former president, CNBC reported on Friday.

Several prominent Republicans who supported Trump’s 2020 reelection bid — including South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, former Vice President Mike Pence and other possible 2024 challengers — have made similar statements calling for new leadership after a disastrous midterm election for Trump-endorsed candidates. “We were told we’d get tired of winning. But I’m tired of losing,” former Trump administration Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, another potential 2024 hopeful, tweeted on Friday. “And so are most Republicans.”
Trump will at least be able to tap his enormous list of online, small-dollar donors who powered his near-record $774 million fundraising haul in 2020.

But after bringing in big money in 2021, the Trump operation’s fundraising slowed in the first half of this year, forcing it to spend more on texts, emails, online ads and other appeals to donors. Trump-affiliated committees spent more than they raised in the third quarter of 2022.
Trump, who is a billionaire himself, spent $66 million of his own money on his 2016 presidential campaign. But he opted not to self-fund his 2020 reelection run.

Following his official 2024 announcement, the Trump campaign will also now be on the hook for millions of dollars in legal fees that were being paid by the Republican National Committee. “We cannot pay legal bills for any candidate that’s announced,” RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel told CNN’s Dana Bash, noting that the committee can’t make in-kind contributions to a declared candidate.

Political committees controlled by or closely affiliated with Trump have a total of nearly $112 million in the bank, according to an analysis of the most recent Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings by nonpartisan research group OpenSecrets. That would appear to give Trump a substantial headstart over his GOP primary opponents. But only $13.5 million of that total can legally be used to bolster Trump’s 2024 aspirations.
That’s because most of the money was raised by a leadership PAC and other committees that are not officially part of Trump’s presidential campaign. Federal law prohibits candidates from double-dipping into donor funds this way, thus bypassing candidate contribution limits and transparency rules. In an effort to dodge those restrictions, Trump’s leadership PAC last month transferred $20 million to a super PAC called MAGA, Inc. The group is run by Trump aides, even though super PACs are supposed to be independent of candidates.

The nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center filed a complaint before the FEC this week alleging that the transfer violated federal law prohibiting candidates and their committees from transferring funds to “soft money” entities such as super PACs that can raise and spend unlimited funds.
Saurav Ghosh, director of federal campaign finance reform at the Campaign Legal Center, said that the Trump campaign strategy is a “very clear violation” of federal law, but it’s still unclear whether the FEC will act in a timely manner, or at all, to prevent wrongdoing.
The commission, which is divided equally along partisan lines, has rarely slapped penalties on campaign committees in recent years. Republican commissioners have dismissed every complaint against Trump, despite two-dozen instances of the FEC’s nonpartisan lawyers recommending an investigation.

“The FEC’s track record of enforcing soft money violations is pretty poor,” Ghosh said. “And you pair that with the fact that they have an equally bad, if not worse, track record of enforcing really any campaign finance laws against Donald Trump.”

If Trump is successful in evading campaign finance laws, he could encourage DeSantis to do the same.
The Florida governor hasn’t said that he will run for president, but he broke state-level fundraising records in his 2022 gubernatorial contest and spent only a fraction of the total. DeSantis ended the race with around $90 million in the bank between his campaign committee and affiliated PAC.
“If he were to try a similar maneuver as Trump and simply transfer all of that money over to a super PAC that’s geared towards supporting his candidacy, there’s no question that that would be another, even more clear-cut soft money violation,” Ghosh said.
This could be a good time to intro those little bottles on a key chain with Mar-a-Lago sand; he has an endless supply. There were a few hurricanes kinda back to back which left beaches on both sides a little low or no dunes. Seems like the weather is mad at Florida.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Which should lead to some nice crying in a bit...

this IS a "witch hunt"...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/witch hunt
according to the official definition of the word, meaning #2 is "the searching out and deliberate harassment of those (such as political opponents) with unpopular views"
that is the case, exactly...trump's views are unpopular, at least with those who don't wear red hats and fuck their cousins...
the condition that justifies this is that there really is a witch in this hunt...his views are unpopular with anyone who has read, well, anything...they're racist, isolationist, elitist, exceptionalistic(?), misogynistic, bigoted, and hateful...he was a horrible leader, who betrayed the trust given to him, and who tried to destroy the government he was entrusted to protect..
and that makes trump the actual witch that is being hunted for, which fully justifies this "hunt".
 

PJ Diaz

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Polls were so reliable in 2022
The great red tsunamis and all
Well of course polls are only based on a limited audience of a couple thousand, so they aren't a totally accurate predictor, but they are an interesting gauge to watch. I mean in fairness, most automobile speedometers are also not accurate, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't pay attention to what they are indicating. Frankly I'm quite surprised that Trump continues to poll so well, which is also of course concerning.
 

xtsho

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The thing about polls is that you can almost always find one that skews the way you want. Polling is a tough business and without knowing the methodology used you have no way of knowing if the poll has any validity.

This is from November 17th:

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Key Evangelical Figures Turn On Trump: 'He Used Us'
Evangelical figures who previously supported Donald Trump are backing off now that he’s announced his third bid for the presidency.
“Donald Trump can’t save America,” Mike Evans told The Washington Post. “He can’t even save himself.”

Evans was part of a group of evangelicals who met with Trump at the White House, and at one point gave him an award.
Now, he says he’s done with Trump. “He used us to win the White House. We had to close our mouths and eyes when he said things that horrified us,” Evans told the newspaper. “I cannot do that anymore.”

Robert Jeffress, one of Trump’s evangelical advisers during the 2016 campaign and a longtime supporter, said he’s not ready to endorse him again.
“The Republican Party is headed toward a civil war that I have no desire or need to be part of,” Jeffress told Newsweek, adding that he would “happily” support Trump again if he wins the nomination.

That’s not a given, considering Trump’s plunging poll numbers among Republican voters. Jeffress also seemed to subtweet Trump on the day of his 2024 announcement by urging people to buy Mike Pence’s book:

Jeffress added on Twitter that he still considers Trump “a great friend and our greatest president since Reagan.”
Another onetime faith adviser to Trump, James Robison of Life Outreach International, said in a speech this week that Trump’s ego is getting in the way of the agenda.

“If Mr. Trump can’t stop his little petty issues, how does he expect people to stop major issues?” Robison said, according to The Washington Post.
He said he told Trump: “Sir, you act like a little elementary schoolchild and you shoot yourself in the foot every morning you get up and open your mouth! The more you keep your mouth closed, the more successful you’re gonna be!”
Robison did not say if he was planning to support Trump in 2024.

Another evangelical figure who previously endorsed Trump was even more blunt, with Washington Times columnist Everett Piper writing that Trump cost the GOP big in the midterms and could hurt them even more in two years.

“The take-home of this past week is simple: Donald Trump has to go,” Piper wrote. “If he‘s our nominee in 2024, we will get destroyed.”
 

mudballs

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He may have been, historically, a necessary figure, and I give him all credit for bringing to a screeching halt the progressive march that occurred under the Obama administration and threatened the country going forward with Hillary Clinton,” said Barr
I'll vote for him again...
 
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