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Trump posts $91 million bond and files notice to appeal in E. Jean Carroll case
The bond was needed to prevent Carroll's attorneys from trying to seize Trump's assets while he appeals a New York jury's $83 million defamation verdict.
Trump pays $91.6 million bond in E. Jean Carroll case
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March 8, 2024, 12:16 PM AST / Updated March 8, 2024, 4:23 PM AST
By Adam Reiss, Lisa Rubin and Dareh Gregorian
Attorneys for former President Donald Trump filed official notice Friday they're appealing the $83 million defamation verdict awarded to writer E. Jean Carroll — and that they've posted the $91 million bond needed to keep her from collecting while the appeal plays out.
The lawyers asked the judge in a court filing for an order approving the $91,630,000 bond and staying execution of Carroll's judgment.
The terms of the bond — and how much money or collateral Trump put down — are unclear. The source of the bond is the Federal Insurance Company, a corporation authorized to transact business in New York. They are based in Chesapeake, Virginia and New Jersey and the company appears to be a subsidiary of Chubb Insurance Company. The document is signed by the former president.
The judge ordered Carroll’s attorneys to respond to Trump's request by Monday morning. He said he could hold a hearing that afternoon if they have any opposition to it.
The filing came as a surprise because Trump's lawyers have repeatedly asked the judge for more time to post the bond and to reduce the amount. The bond was needed to prevent Carroll from moving to collect on the judgment during the pendency of the appeal, which could take months or even years. It's greater than the amount of the actual verdict to account for New York's 9% annual interest rate.
The automatic stay of the judgment was set to expire Monday, at which point Carroll's attorneys could have moved to start collecting the money she was awarded for Trump's having defamed her when he was president and then after she received a separate $5 million judgment against him last year. He's appealing that verdict also, and posted a bond for that judgment last year.
Carroll called the development “stupendous” in a Substack post. She wrote that while her attorney Roberta Kaplan “is strong enough to yank a golden toilet out of the floor at Trump Tower and toss it through the window, this bond saves Robbie the trouble of showing up with US Marshals on Monday to do so.”
Court documents show Trump signed the new bond agreement on Tuesday, and the attorney for FIC signed it on Wednesday — the same day that Trump's lawyers filed a letter asking the judge to stay the judgment for three days after he rules on their previous request for stay, which he has yet to do.
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Trump posts $91 million bond and files notice to appeal in E. Jean Carroll case
The bond was needed to prevent Carroll's attorneys from trying to seize Trump's assets while he appeals a New York jury's $83 million defamation verdict.
Trump pays $91.6 million bond in E. Jean Carroll case
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March 8, 2024, 12:16 PM AST / Updated March 8, 2024, 4:23 PM AST
By Adam Reiss, Lisa Rubin and Dareh Gregorian
Attorneys for former President Donald Trump filed official notice Friday they're appealing the $83 million defamation verdict awarded to writer E. Jean Carroll — and that they've posted the $91 million bond needed to keep her from collecting while the appeal plays out.
The lawyers asked the judge in a court filing for an order approving the $91,630,000 bond and staying execution of Carroll's judgment.
The terms of the bond — and how much money or collateral Trump put down — are unclear. The source of the bond is the Federal Insurance Company, a corporation authorized to transact business in New York. They are based in Chesapeake, Virginia and New Jersey and the company appears to be a subsidiary of Chubb Insurance Company. The document is signed by the former president.
The judge ordered Carroll’s attorneys to respond to Trump's request by Monday morning. He said he could hold a hearing that afternoon if they have any opposition to it.
The filing came as a surprise because Trump's lawyers have repeatedly asked the judge for more time to post the bond and to reduce the amount. The bond was needed to prevent Carroll from moving to collect on the judgment during the pendency of the appeal, which could take months or even years. It's greater than the amount of the actual verdict to account for New York's 9% annual interest rate.
The automatic stay of the judgment was set to expire Monday, at which point Carroll's attorneys could have moved to start collecting the money she was awarded for Trump's having defamed her when he was president and then after she received a separate $5 million judgment against him last year. He's appealing that verdict also, and posted a bond for that judgment last year.
Carroll called the development “stupendous” in a Substack post. She wrote that while her attorney Roberta Kaplan “is strong enough to yank a golden toilet out of the floor at Trump Tower and toss it through the window, this bond saves Robbie the trouble of showing up with US Marshals on Monday to do so.”
Court documents show Trump signed the new bond agreement on Tuesday, and the attorney for FIC signed it on Wednesday — the same day that Trump's lawyers filed a letter asking the judge to stay the judgment for three days after he rules on their previous request for stay, which he has yet to do.
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cannabineer
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It’s a shame Chubb is too insulated from the consumer market to boycott for throwing that fascist a lifeline.
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Funny that they do not mention Trump had to borrow the money. Newsmax used Reuters as a source for the article but left out all the details.
Trump Posts $91.63M Bond in E. Jean Carroll Case
Former President Donald Trump posted a $91.63 million bond in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, CNN reported Friday.
The notice of Trump's bond was made with the federal court in New York, according to the media outlet.
A federal jury on Jan. 26 awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages after agreeing with the former Elle magazine advice columnist that Trump had defamed her in June 2019 by denying he had raped her in the mid-1990s in a Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing room in Manhattan.
Judge Lewis Kaplan made the verdict official on Feb. 8 and gave the former president 30 days to post a bond or come up with cash during his appeal.
Trump has argued that the jury award is excessive and should be reduced.
On Thursday, a federal judge denied Trump's request to delay enforcement of the verdict.
Trump lawyers, who had been seeking to avoid posting a big bond or any bond at all, rejected Carroll's claim that his finances were strained.
They assured that Carroll was "fully protected," and said a $24.5 million bond would be more than enough to "secure any minimal risk" to her.
Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, also faces a March 25 deadline to put up $454 million in New York Attorney General Letitia James' civil fraud case.
The former president also has been charged in four separate criminal cases.
newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-bond-e-jean-carroll/2024/03/08/id/1156525/
Trump Posts $91.63M Bond in E. Jean Carroll Case
Former President Donald Trump posted a $91.63 million bond in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, CNN reported Friday.
The notice of Trump's bond was made with the federal court in New York, according to the media outlet.
A federal jury on Jan. 26 awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages after agreeing with the former Elle magazine advice columnist that Trump had defamed her in June 2019 by denying he had raped her in the mid-1990s in a Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing room in Manhattan.
Judge Lewis Kaplan made the verdict official on Feb. 8 and gave the former president 30 days to post a bond or come up with cash during his appeal.
Trump has argued that the jury award is excessive and should be reduced.
On Thursday, a federal judge denied Trump's request to delay enforcement of the verdict.
Trump lawyers, who had been seeking to avoid posting a big bond or any bond at all, rejected Carroll's claim that his finances were strained.
They assured that Carroll was "fully protected," and said a $24.5 million bond would be more than enough to "secure any minimal risk" to her.
Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, also faces a March 25 deadline to put up $454 million in New York Attorney General Letitia James' civil fraud case.
The former president also has been charged in four separate criminal cases.
newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-bond-e-jean-carroll/2024/03/08/id/1156525/
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OldMedUser
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25th of this month I believe. How compromised will this guy be by the time the election rolls around I wonder. Gov't officials with huge debt are usually denied security clearances due to their vulnerabilities to bribery or coercion.
How does a president function without security clearances?
I find it totally ridiculous that anyone is allowed to run for any office including dog catcher with even one criminal indictment hanging over their head. They shouldn't be allowed to run until their case(s) are finalized and I hope Biden brings in bills to make that law once they win the trifecta in Nov.
Should also start impeachment proceedings against the corrupt supreme court judges who swore under oath that they wouldn't do anything like reverse Roe v. Wade which they did at their first opportunity. Talk about corruption at the highest levels.
cannabineer
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The justices are laughing because they know the Congressional standard to impeach them is impossibly high. That’s why they chained the insurrection clause to an institution unlikely to ever disqualify anyone. It truly has become the Supreme Courrupt.25th of this month I believe. How compromised will this guy be by the time the election rolls around I wonder. Gov't officials with huge debt are usually denied security clearances due to their vulnerabilities to bribery or coercion.
How does a president function without security clearances?
I find it totally ridiculous that anyone is allowed to run for any office including dog catcher with even one criminal indictment hanging over their head. They shouldn't be allowed to run until their case(s) are finalized and I hope Biden brings in bills to make that law once they win the trifecta in Nov.
Should also start impeachment proceedings against the corrupt supreme court judges who swore under oath that they wouldn't do anything like reverse Roe v. Wade which they did at their first opportunity. Talk about corruption at the highest levels.
hanimmal
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It'll be interesting if increasing the number of SCOTUS' is something that senate Democrats run on this election cycle or if they wait until the 2026 election cycle. I could see it being pushed off until 2028 too I guess, being a Democratic primary year.25th of this month I believe. How compromised will this guy be by the time the election rolls around I wonder. Gov't officials with huge debt are usually denied security clearances due to their vulnerabilities to bribery or coercion.
How does a president function without security clearances?
I find it totally ridiculous that anyone is allowed to run for any office including dog catcher with even one criminal indictment hanging over their head. They shouldn't be allowed to run until their case(s) are finalized and I hope Biden brings in bills to make that law once they win the trifecta in Nov.
Should also start impeachment proceedings against the corrupt supreme court judges who swore under oath that they wouldn't do anything like reverse Roe v. Wade which they did at their first opportunity. Talk about corruption at the highest levels.
I don't see them being impeached by these Republicans anytime soon though, so we will be stuck with the sellouts like Alito and Thomas, and hard to forget the hostage video that was Kavanaugh's inauguration.
I'd love to know (one day we can only hope) what Trump has on him that made Kavanaugh look like his leash got snapped hard right before they walked out.
That and the SCOTUS judge whose kid worked for Deutsche bank that retired right away.
Their power needs to be watered down. And when the Republicans cry foul about the Democrats changing the number of justices, they can throw it right in their faces that they changed the number to 8 for over a year without any vote.
Fogdog
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Congress is not fulfilling its own role as it was given in the Constitution. The Supreme Court seems to be insisting that it begin to do so. Do I believe this with high confidence? No, I'm not certain of that. But it is an alternate explanation other than simply explaining their actions away as being corrupt. Congress is supposed to regulate the president, which they are not doing. During the first hundred years of this country, Congress treated the Supreme Court with something like contempt. The people's Congress has a lot of power as written in the Constitution and its time the people start pushing them to act. With Manchin and Sinema out of the way and a majority in both houses of Congress, maybe Democrats can end the filibuster in the Senate and make this country's government actually run according to the will of the majority. (I'm starting to sound like DIY now)
What Biden said in the SOTU address is if the people re-elect him and elect a Democratically controlled Congress, they will restore Roe-v-Wade and strengthen the Civil Rights Act. I might be wrong but I'm interpreting recent actions by the Supreme Court that they will accept the will of the voters and their Congress if we so choose to elect one that will represent us. So maybe we can get through all of this bullshit with a rejuvenated democracy.
Or maybe I'm being naïve.
cannabineer
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Sometimes in my head I do to. I think it’s hope at work — the most terrible thing in Pandora’s box.
I hope for the best and brace for the worst. Sometimes both sentiments working crosswise distort my rational thought. Lately, my gut says things are somewhat bad. I’m residually shocked from the back-to-back hits of two Scotus actions that have materially abetted that man*, and Chubb midwifing a bond that surely makes that man beholden to a foreign creditor who will be seeking to collect.
Some deep-submerged forces sure seem to be protecting that man from Nemesis and acting to keep the window for a coup against the republic open.
But maybe I’m being a pessimist. There’s that hope again.
*which, using a less neoliberal read of the core document that court has the duty to define and implement, perhaps puts them collectively afoul of the insurrection clause!
BudmanTX
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Looks like employee #5 in the MAL case wants to talk.....right into the camera....
basically he's spilling the beans on Thumpy and the other 2
basically he's spilling the beans on Thumpy and the other 2
I hear ya,Trumps resembles a case of herpes,always coming back,hoping Nov. provides the cure,BUT even a resounding L at the ballot box doesn't ease fears of the shit the CKsucker will stir up,A new tidbit of bad Trump pub. just emerged w/former Chief of Staff Gen Kelly spilling on Trumps admiration of HITLER,told Kelly that Hitler rebuilt the German economy and that his generals were loyal,Kelley pushed back that Hitler destroyed Germany and that multiple assassinations by German officers were attempted. Trump (in his ignorant pick and choose penchant of reality) responded to Kelly that he did not know that.His 1st wife Ivanka has stated that Trump had a copy of MEIN KAMPH!!,now here's a notorious,unread,anti-intellectual MF who disdains reading and needs to be visually stimulated w/a copy of HITLER'S struggle by his bedside. WTF does it take to wake more Americans up from the FALSE NARRATIVE he's CONstructed like his gleaming towers???
ooof-da
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So trump has 91 charges against him and about a third of them are tied to the hush money case which seems like the next indictment to move forward right (?). So 34 charges, one for every reimbursement he made to cohen (I think) for the reimbursements carrying 4 years each (max) and are entered as felony charges. 91 x 4 = 136 years so let’s just assume for a minute he is found guilty, will he do time on these charges?? What would a normal person get…like is there precedent and would they even be felony’s or misdemeanors? Not saying he isn’t “normal” just wondering if judges typically would assign jail time for this type of crime.
cannabineer
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There is no mandatory minimum on those charges. It completely depends on the judge — and on the appeal.
In this case (assuming conviction) I’d be satisfied with a $3bn fine, with jail until it’s paid in full.
ooof-da
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bn as in billion?